Are there many of us???

[ttystikk]

I learned recently, from the inimitable @ttystikk it s called "espalier" in traditional agriculture. Grapes are probably a good example of a common use for it. When I buy my next house I'll be going full vert, no question.

In between glasses of red wine, those old French vintners knew a thing or two about growing. Come to think of it, the red wine itself was another secret of health and happiness!

 

[mean.green]

Does this count as vertical growing?

 

[ttystikk]

Does this count as vertical growing?
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Not yet. Start lighting those girls from the side and it will be.

 

[THCBrain]

I would give vert a bash but can't for the life of me think how to set it up... but it is intriguing

 

[ttystikk]

I would give vert a bash but can't for the life of me think how to set it up... but it is intriguing

Bulb beside plant.

 

[kiwipaulie]

I would give vert a bash but can't for the life of me think how to set it up... but it is intriguing

Its really not rocket science, just take your hood off and hang that shit!!

 

[ttystikk]

Its really not rocket science, just take your hood off and hang that shit!!

That's right; go naked, it just feels better and the girls love it!

Oh- wait, we're talking about plants, aren't we?

 

[a senile fungus]

I would like to emulate @PKHydro 's set up.

Eventually


As funds allow.

 

[goofy81]

I'd still be doing vertical if i had high ceilings and a small space.
Using leds now which I think favors canopy moremore.
Here's a photo of the last half vertical setup I did years ago( half because I had lights on top too).

 

[ttystikk]

I'd still be doing vertical if i had high ceilings and a small space.
Using leds now which I think favors canopy moremore.
Here's a photo of the last half vertical setup I did years ago( half because I had lights on top too).

Looking lush!

I don't think it matters which way the light is oriented, my COB LED kicks ass in all directions!

 

[goofy81]

I've always believed vertical was done to fully utilize a HPS/MH light bulbs even 360 degree light spread. LEDS are directional so theres's really no point doing vertical. Unless someone can prove me wrong.

 

[ttystikk]

I've always believed vertical was done to fully utilize a HPS/MH light bulbs even 360 degree light spread. LEDS are directional so theres's really no point doing vertical. Unless someone can prove me wrong.

Time you read my thread, mate.

 

[grapefruitmarmalade]

I tried vert once and it wasn't suitable for me or my grow area.
I've since switched to LEDs
ps: I find training plans horizontally a lot more enjoyable

 

[9leaves]

If that isn't the most impressive grow I have ever seen. Holy Cow. I wish someday I could do that. Not enough room for me. You really have a cool thing here.

 

[Michael Huntherz]

I've always believed vertical was done to fully utilize a HPS/MH light bulbs even 360 degree light spread. LEDS are directional so theres's really no point doing vertical. Unless someone can prove me wrong.

Dude, the square footage of grow-space is still massive, and there are little tricks that make the difference. I don't want to give away the farm, but yeah, tricks that aren't even uncommon.

You may end up using more LEDs per square foot of floor space, but you still have more grow area per floor area. Adding lights is one thing, reframing the building...well, not as much.

 

[ttystikk]

Dude, the square footage of grow-space is still massive, and there are little tricks that make the difference. I don't want to give away the farm, but yeah, tricks that aren't even uncommon.

You may end up using more LEDs per square foot of floor space, but you still have more grow area per floor area. Adding lights is one thing, reframing the building...well, not as much.

If you needed proof of how far off the beaten path we are brother, this is it.

 

[Vnsmkr]

All mine has been outdoor till now but the 1st one indoor will certainly be vertical. I dont see any other way

 

[Lucky Luke]

Im experimenting with a fridge grow during the off season. I'll give that a season or two and get that dialed and maybe give the vertical grow a go. Seems the possibilities of heavy yields is high....and its cool.

DWC and verti would be a great match IMO...

 

[ttystikk]

Im experimenting with a fridge grow during the off season. I'll give that a season or two and get that dialed and maybe give the vertical grow a go. Seems the possibilities of heavy yields is high....and its cool.

DWC and verti would be a great match IMO...

That's been my MO for years. I'm switching to coco to improve consistency of results.

 

[OneHitDone]

I've always believed vertical was done to fully utilize a HPS/MH light bulbs even 360 degree light spread. LEDS are directional so theres's really no point doing vertical. Unless someone can prove me wrong.

I would have to at this point in time agree with @goofy81
If I can put 4 plants in a space around a 1000W lamp and effectively be applying 250W per Trellis - that is impressive. If I were to switch to led and have to point 1000W or even 600-700W if they are more efficient at each trellis, that just doesn't make any sense. The wattage/canopy ratio is no better than just adding more horizontal space.
I will see soon what 250W per Trellis will deliver