EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
I'm a 'wait and see' kind of person..I like to have all the data.
fair enough. But polls with this large of a difference are pretty accurate at predicting the end result. The data at this time says that Bernie needs to average 60% of the vote in every primary once he lost Ohio. That's not a poll. That's fact. Bernie needs to do much better than just win NY. Also fact. You can deal with it later if you like.
 

londonfog

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You sound like Nitro only with a love for an old woman instead of an old man.

OK, so make a pitch for Clinton. You are the only person here that is all in for the Hill Pill. I'm not fully against her but she doesn't seem to be the best choice to me. Why is she the best choice as far as you are concerned.
I'm for the Dem that wins.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
FULL ANSWER
As Bob Biersack from the Federal Election Commission points out, most candidates don’t have much left over to begin with. Campaigning is expensive, and “leftover” money gets used for bills and debts first, including expenses incurred while winding down an abandoned campaign or a lost political office.
Candidates do sometimes end up with surplus funds, though, particularly if they’re incumbent members of Congress who decide not to run for another term. State and local governments have their own rules, but those running for federal office — including presidential candidates — must abide by strict FEC guidelines when it comes to their extra campaign money. They can donate an unlimited amount to a charity or political party. They can also, within limits, make contributions directly to other candidates. A campaign committee can give up to $2000 per election to each candidate. If the committee is converted into a political action committee, the limit jumps to $5000 – but to be established as a PAC, the committee would have to be in existence for six months, receive contributions from 50 donors, and make contributions to five recipients.
I like this loophole. Can you name others
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
You really have to ask. Hey you want to set up a charity so I can give you money ? Nice tax write off included
This kind of smear and insinuation is something I'd expect from one of the resident wing nuts not a thinking person. You know there are rules and regulations that prevent simply creating a charity to commit fraud don't you? Can you cite an example where the legislator legally moved campaign donations into a charity where they could use the money at will.

I think you are just wallowing in a sleazy fantasy.
 

ttystikk

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I can come up with zero reasons to vote for Ms Clinton. I'm looking for it but can't find a way to explain this as anything other than a vote against the GOP nutjob candidate of choice.

So, explain, what is a "BernieCraZy"? What's crazy about Bernie's platform?
Yeah, I was wondering about that, myself.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I was wondering about that, myself.
If you saw a car with a Hillary bumper sticker, would you waste your time cutting and blocking that car off simple because of the bumper sticker ?
If you saw a vehicle with a Hillary sticker parked in a parking lot with no one around would you flatten a tire.
If you saw that Bernie is not going to win the primary would you just not vote come November or just vote GOP in anger.

BernieCraZy
 
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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Come on dude, you aren't that ignorant are you? Well maybe so. The use of campaign funds for retirement purposes ended decades ago.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/leftover-campaign-funds/

Q: What happens to a candidate’s leftover campaign funds when he or she drops out of the race?

A: The big rule is: no personal use.

FULL QUESTION

Do candidates for elected office keep donations to their campaigns for personal use after they lose or drop out? Or do those donations have to go into a greater party fund?

FULL ANSWER

As Bob Biersack from the Federal Election Commission points out, most candidates don’t have much left over to begin with. Campaigning is expensive, and “leftover” money gets used for bills and debts first, including expenses incurred while winding down an abandoned campaign or a lost political office.

Candidates do sometimes end up with surplus funds, though, particularly if they’re incumbent members of Congress who decide not to run for another term. State and local governments have their own rules, but those running for federal office — including presidential candidates — must abide by strict FEC guidelines when it comes to their extra campaign money. They can donate an unlimited amount to a charity or political party. They can also, within limits, make contributions directly to other candidates. A campaign committee can give up to $2000 per election to each candidate. If the committee is converted into a political action committee, the limit jumps to $5000 – but to be established as a PAC, the committee would have to be in existence for six months, receive contributions from 50 donors, and make contributions to five recipients.

What candidates can’t do with leftover money is use it for personal expenses. Retiring federal lawmakers used to be able to pocket extra cash and use it for cars, vacations, clothes, pet grooming, whatever — but that changed in 1989 with the passage of the Ethics Reform Act.
:clap:

Sadly though, the facts will be forgotten/ignored after you've taken the time to educate.

Any bets on how long it will be before they (London, chesus) bring this up again?
 

bluntmassa1

Well-Known Member
If you saw a car with a Hillary bumper sticker, would you wastes your time cutting and blocking that car off simple because of the bumper sticker ?
If you saw a vehicle with a Hillary sticker parked in a parking lot with no one around would you flatten a tire.
If you saw that Bernie is not going to win the primary would you just not vote come November or just vote GOP in anger.

BernieCraZy
If it was a Hillary for prison sticker I would waste my time by letting them go. But a pro Hitlary sticker yes I would cut them off but I do that anyway ever drive in a place like Boston? You don't cut fools off you don't fucking move!

I would also gladly slash all 4 tires if nobody was around a car with a Hillary Bumper sticker.:bigjoint:

I might just vote GOP if Bernie Sanders loses anything is better than Hillary not out of anger though I voted for Ron Paul last time and I still think Democrat or Republican only people are fucking retarded just like you.:dunce:
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
fair enough. But polls with this large of a difference are pretty accurate at predicting the end result. The data at this time says that Bernie needs to average 60% of the vote in every primary once he lost Ohio. That's not a poll. That's fact. Bernie needs to do much better than just win NY. Also fact. You can deal with it later if you like.
Fact: Sanders is dead even with Clinton in NY.

Correction..Sanders 50%..Clinton 49%.
 
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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
If it was a Hillary for prison sticker I would waste my time by letting them go. But a pro Hitlary sticker yes I would cut them off but I do that anyway ever drive in a place like Boston? You don't cut fools off you don't fucking move!

I would also gladly slash all 4 tires if nobody was around a car with a Hillary Bumper sticker.:bigjoint:

I might just vote GOP if Bernie Sanders loses anything is better than Hillary not out of anger though I voted for Ron Paul last time and I still think Democrat or Republican only people are fucking retarded just like you.:dunce:
Especially when the car is an 'in your face' Mercedes, Porshe or whatever hi-line European vehicle that denotes wealth.

Unfortunately, some here can only think on basic lizard brain terms and not 2nd or 3rd level.
 
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OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
Come on dude, you aren't that ignorant are you? Well maybe so. The use of campaign funds for retirement purposes ended decades ago.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/leftover-campaign-funds/

Q: What happens to a candidate’s leftover campaign funds when he or she drops out of the race?

A: The big rule is: no personal use.

FULL QUESTION

Do candidates for elected office keep donations to their campaigns for personal use after they lose or drop out? Or do those donations have to go into a greater party fund?

FULL ANSWER

As Bob Biersack from the Federal Election Commission points out, most candidates don’t have much left over to begin with. Campaigning is expensive, and “leftover” money gets used for bills and debts first, including expenses incurred while winding down an abandoned campaign or a lost political office.

Candidates do sometimes end up with surplus funds, though, particularly if they’re incumbent members of Congress who decide not to run for another term. State and local governments have their own rules, but those running for federal office — including presidential candidates — must abide by strict FEC guidelines when it comes to their extra campaign money. They can donate an unlimited amount to a charity or political party. They can also, within limits, make contributions directly to other candidates. A campaign committee can give up to $2000 per election to each candidate. If the committee is converted into a political action committee, the limit jumps to $5000 – but to be established as a PAC, the committee would have to be in existence for six months, receive contributions from 50 donors, and make contributions to five recipients.

What candidates can’t do with leftover money is use it for personal expenses. Retiring federal lawmakers used to be able to pocket extra cash and use it for cars, vacations, clothes, pet grooming, whatever — but that changed in 1989 with the passage of the Ethics Reform Act.
So, What stops Bernie from donating all of the unlimited amount to his wife`s charity ? (Hangnail Relief)
 
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