First Scrog! When Should I Flower!?

[lucasnooker]

Hey there people

Done a few grows before but this will be my first attempt at a scrog. been vegging for 5 weeks now and just installed the scrog net. I could not install it any lower due to sliding doors in my grow space. so the plants remain about 6 inches underneath the net. so my question is. shall i continue to veg until they reach the net and fill it out more before i switch to flower? or shall i just flower it and keep the canopy under the net as it stretches? I will not have too much more room to work with because there is only about another 1.5 ft of growing space above the net.

What do you guys think? Thanks

 

[harris hawk]

let the plants grow above the net then 12/12 and then do you SCROG. Great set up sure it will reward you well !!!!

 

[Joe Blows Trees]

I'd say give em atleast another week to get a little closer to the net and then flip. Should fill out nicely during the stretch.

 

[lucasnooker]

let the plants grow above the net then 12/12 and then do you SCROG. Great set up sure it will reward you well !!!!

Cool. I have also transplanted some plants to a 1.2m grow space with scrog. and just set up that scrog very low down to the plants. though they sent me the wrong size scrog so had to keep it held up another way :/ but i have sorted it now lol anyway I am going to use it now to bush them out to fill the space in veg but what about after that? shall i raise the scrog net before flower? then keep them pinned under the net at a higher level? or just grow them through the screen? Thanks for your help

 

[Mean Gene]

Have you read through the scrog journals to get an idea of when to flip? You said you have done some grows before so you have an idea of the stretch already. Just fill in that net

 

[lucasnooker]

I'd say give em atleast another week to get a little closer to the net and then flip. Should fill out nicely during the stretch.

Here is an update a mere 5 days later. these things grow pretty dang fast. thinking of switching them into flower now? What do you think? I have opened out the plants so the middle can get light and its filling out the net pretty nicely. 1 of the plants has not quite reached yet but the rest are getting pretty big so i feel as though i should switch. here are some pics...

 

[Joe Blows Trees]

Yeah, switching now should fill it nicely. The shorter one should fill in its spot during the stretch. Good luck!

 

[lucasnooker]

Yeah, switching now should fill it nicely. The shorter one should fill in its spot during the stretch. Good luck!

Thanks dude. just switched them over to flower today. but 1 plant is overtaking the small plant and i fear im spreading it too far. is the canopy supposed to be this open? it really has this long viney type of growth and its easy to widen.



This is my first scrog so i dont know if i am over doing it or what? Thanks for your help again i appreciate it

 

[Cyrus420]

Your plants will stretch after you switch them into flowering.

Do not put the screen in just yet. The point of a scrog is to pull the stretching branches through the screen to create an even canopy. Simply growing your plants through a screen is not a scrog.

I would vegetate for four to five weeks, top twice, LST, and after the switch to flower pull the stretching branches horizontally across the screen.

Give this http://www.growweedeasy.com/scrog-tutorial#introduction a read over and it will get you started on the magical journey to scrogland.

 

[lucasnooker]

Your plants will stretch after you switch them into flowering.

Do not put the screen in just yet. The point of a scrog is to pull the stretching branches through the screen to create an even canopy. Simply growing your plants through a screen is not a scrog.

I would vegetate for four to five weeks, top twice, LST, and after the switch to flower pull the stretching branches horizontally across the screen.

Give this http://www.growweedeasy.com/scrog-tutorial#introduction a read over and it will get you started on the magical journey to scrogland.

Hi,

Yeah i have already switched to flower now though lol. i am trying to get some advice about the pics above to see if my canopy should be opened that much? I saw that post when i was first looking about scrogging lol. i know im supposed to keep growing horizontally now i am going into flower for the next 2 weeks. but is the canopy looking ok from the pics above? theres so much to still fill in the middle of the canopy

 

[Joe Blows Trees]

Is it starting to fill in now?

 

[lucasnooker]

Is it starting to fill in now?

A little. but its still quite open. but a lot more sites are popping through now and are pushing the net off its supports lol. everything seems to be catching up nicely but its still bare in the middle. but im hoping it will still get me good bud anyways even if it does stay like that because light can get to the entire plant. i will keep you posted anyway

 

[714steadyeddie]

Looks good, just keep tucking for the first 12 days

 

[lucasnooker]

Is it starting to fill in now?

Well here is an update of how they are progressing. am 1 week into flower now and the branches and starting to become difficult to tuck lol. the plants are pushing the scrog net off of its supports and starting to grow heads through the net all over. Everything seems to have filled out quite nicely by now. space is nearly full. I am wondering if i stop tucking in 2 or 3 days time will my space still be sufficient for the rest of the stretch period? I don't have much room to work with right now lol and I know that week 2 is usually the explosion of growth! I am hoping they don't over stretch up touching or passing above the light.

What do you think? Should the space still be ok still if i stop tucking after day 9 or 10? I probably have only about 30cm of growing space left, max! because its an LED though it can get quite close to the light but still, they grow fast. lol. Anyway any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[Joe Blows Trees]

If you notice the stretch is slowing down around day 9/10, you can stop. If not, keep tucking. You want the most even canopy you can get. Looking good so far.

 

[hellmutt bones]

Well a scrog starts in veg. Ur main goal is to fill the screen and tuck the higher branches so that the smaller branches catch up with the main colas. Then and only then, after you have created a canopy that fills the entire screen and then you flip.
You can tank me later noob

 

[Budley Doright]

Well a scrog starts in veg. Ur main goal is to fill the screen and tuck the higher branches so that the smaller branches catch up with the main colas. Then and only then, after you have created a canopy that fills the entire screen and then you flip.
You can tank me later noob

I know, another question, actually just clarification really. So I spread all the branches under the net while vegging, then flip and stop tucking now that I've filled the net. Would that not just leave the net 4' (approximation) under the another unruly canopy after the stretch? I thought the tucking was done when in stretch as well and actually mostly done in stretch to fill the canopy, perhaps this is wrong. I was wondering, do you actually have any pictures of you doing this, I would love to see the results. Always looking for new methods you know .

 

[Joe Blows Trees]

I've seen a few growers use a double trellis. The first is put in mid/late veg and the second beginning of flowering to handle the stretch.

 

[Budley Doright]

I've seen a few growers use a double trellis. The first is put in mid/late veg and the second beginning of flowering to handle the stretch.

Never seen that myself but sounds plausible. Would that not create a dead zone so to speak? I am kind of interested in this, trying to utilize my space better. I did try it once (not a full blown effort lol) and put the screen in while vegging and yup no room left for the stretch, which tripled the plant height ..... Damn White Russian lol. Damn near had to cut the screen to get the plants out.

 

[hellmutt bones]

I know, another question, actually just clarification really. So I spread all the branches under the net while vegging, then flip and stop tucking now that I've filled the net. Would that not just leave the net 4' (approximation) under the another unruly canopy after the stretch? I thought the tucking was done when in stretch as well and actually mostly done in stretch to fill the canopy, perhaps this is wrong. I was wondering, do you actually have any pictures of you doing this, I would love to see the results. Always looking for new methods you know .

Hey old man!! Why dont you look it up on the Internet! Lol.. thats this computer duhickey that plugs into the wall and you can ask it questions by typing it in. Kinda like a magic lamp! Lol..oh by the way LOL means..hahahaha!!!!