Rasta Roy
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I'll second that.
Crispy plant in flower! Wtf.. help me out
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Resinhound
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You should try watering sometime...it really does do wonders.
I'd say your organic regimen without bottles leaves something to be desired.Like nutrition and water.
I'd say your organic regimen without bottles leaves something to be desired.Like nutrition and water.
GoRealUhGro
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Um that's not the reason I called her a bitch...why the hell would I call someone a butch over that....go put on some Marley and smoke a j
Rasta Roy
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I smoke a lot of j's and listen to lots of Marley, that's why I'm encouraging you to use more positive language choices.
Organicgrow42
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The heat never gets over 79° and this strain I harvested at 11 weeks last time. Most plants can go further than their harvest window, they will just get more be in trichs.
When I grow something the first time, I always let them go unail I for sure see she is ready, instead of following breeder instructions.
No plant at 9.5 weeks, if it's an 8 Weeker would just crisp up and die though, the outside leaves or sugar leaves will get crispy but not the whole bud straight through.
I have a feeling it's root zone related. I'll be ripping it apart next time. I'll post what I see and probably a pic or two.
What kinds of root issues could cause buds to do that? Bugs or disease or both?
Also this doesn't seem to go from cut to cut. The cuts take time to get like this veg is usually really nice now a days. Had some issues before but everything is green and lush now, with an exception or two here and there buy overall very nice
Sighhhhhh :/
When I grow something the first time, I always let them go unail I for sure see she is ready, instead of following breeder instructions.
No plant at 9.5 weeks, if it's an 8 Weeker would just crisp up and die though, the outside leaves or sugar leaves will get crispy but not the whole bud straight through.
I have a feeling it's root zone related. I'll be ripping it apart next time. I'll post what I see and probably a pic or two.
What kinds of root issues could cause buds to do that? Bugs or disease or both?
Also this doesn't seem to go from cut to cut. The cuts take time to get like this veg is usually really nice now a days. Had some issues before but everything is green and lush now, with an exception or two here and there buy overall very nice
Sighhhhhh :/
Organicgrow42
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If anything, I water too much. I never let a plant droop or get close to that but thanks for 'tip' to water my plants... and every other plant isn't doing this
I've been growing for years, if my whole garden was like this awsynd it were due to just not watering I wouldn't be going the extra mile to ask people and try to solve the problem....I'd just water and move on.
This plant was normal til 2 weeks ago and when I went to pull her, she was crisp ass. Nothing changed in water schedule, heat, hunidity, or from" being lazy"
I'm not a master grower but when u have been growing for years without issue and this happens, you get a but freaked out! Lol
I've been growing for years, if my whole garden was like this awsynd it were due to just not watering I wouldn't be going the extra mile to ask people and try to solve the problem....I'd just water and move on.
This plant was normal til 2 weeks ago and when I went to pull her, she was crisp ass. Nothing changed in water schedule, heat, hunidity, or from" being lazy"
I'm not a master grower but when u have been growing for years without issue and this happens, you get a but freaked out! Lol
Resinhound
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Sorry dude but shit like that doesn't just happen over night....and claiming its strain related is just ridiculous.You dropped the ball somewhere that's all.
greasemonkeymann
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Are you CERTAIN you didn't ever let it get limp from not enough water, cuz that's EXACTLY what cannabis does when that happens, it sloughs off all the sunleaves and redirects the water to the flowers.
even just once it'll do that, and typically they slough off within a week from the initial incident
I'd bet money it was that.
you said it was at the far wall... you sure about not letting it droop?
and gsc SUCKS
great smoke but such a cunt to grow.
whitebb2727
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Once won't hurt it. It will strengthen the plant. Going limp wont hurt it. A day or two will hurt it though. Cannabis is a drought resistant plant. I've seen perk right back up and not miss a beat. Laying on the ground before hand.
I now know what it is. You are right in a way. I would bet a $100 dollars he let it get dry and then it developed a hydrophobic pocket. I had an outdoor plant do that. I would water and water but the dry pocket refused to take water. When I dug it up I found it. This was a guerilla grow. Sometimes it happens when you can't look over them.
I bet you got a dry pocket in the center of the rootball.
Just so you know over water is worse for cannabis than under. Over water will cause crisp leaves and for them to fall off.
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greasemonkeymann
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well, yes and no..
I've seen some strains (sativas in particular) that will slough off the leaves, even if it's only once.
but i'm talkin LIMP...
like dude jumping OUT of a ice-pond-limp..
Organicgrow42
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@Resinhound I didn't say it happened over night. It happened >2 weeks. I even think it was a week at the most.
I never let anything go longer than 3 days. I have someone that watches over them when I can't be there. I know there is no chance of an underwater scenario.
If anything I'd say overwater if it were to be watering related like i said. I don't not believe watering is the problem here.
Temps are always steady, nothing in my regiment or environment has changed as far as I could tell. Every other plant gets the same treatment and this hasn't happened
I said strain related on my part not the strains part. I said I felt I may need to dial it in. Say the plant didn't get enough nutes and cannabalized itself type thing. I would dial the nutes in...that's all I meant about that.
I never let anything go longer than 3 days. I have someone that watches over them when I can't be there. I know there is no chance of an underwater scenario.
If anything I'd say overwater if it were to be watering related like i said. I don't not believe watering is the problem here.
Temps are always steady, nothing in my regiment or environment has changed as far as I could tell. Every other plant gets the same treatment and this hasn't happened
I said strain related on my part not the strains part. I said I felt I may need to dial it in. Say the plant didn't get enough nutes and cannabalized itself type thing. I would dial the nutes in...that's all I meant about that.
Bugeye
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Toxic salt build up will do that to a plant, especially if combined with high nitrogen levels. I did it once from using water out of a salt based water softener system. I'm not sure what would cause this in an organic grow unless you were using lots of animal waste composts. Agree that the answer is in the root zone. Maybe test some of your soil and see what is going on?
greasemonkeymann
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ahhh, so YOU don't know for a fact that it wasn't missed then huh...
I stand by my original hunch, and with conviction, I bet it was overlooked.
Dogenzengi
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The one photo that shows multiple plants seems to show they all look the same.
Fan leaves all look crispy buds look pretty dry.
I don't think stopping the nutes 2 weeks ago was a good idea, I cut my normal PPMs in half for the last week.
I should say I used to now grow in an E n F, a SOG now I just feed as much as they can handle from beggining to end.
Your plants look starved to death IMO.
Happy 420
Bless,
DZ
Fan leaves all look crispy buds look pretty dry.
I don't think stopping the nutes 2 weeks ago was a good idea, I cut my normal PPMs in half for the last week.
I should say I used to now grow in an E n F, a SOG now I just feed as much as they can handle from beggining to end.
Your plants look starved to death IMO.
Happy 420
Bless,
DZ
whitebb2727
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It also makes a difference if is a clone or seed.
A seed plant has a tap root and will access water several feet down. A clone will not have a tap root.
Organicgrow42
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I domt have a picture with multiple plants, that's 1 god bud w a bunch of colas. The gsc pic I think is in there and I fed thst one last time it started doing this and it never got better but became far worse.
This time on the gsc I'm going hard on nutes in the soil and not w what I top dressed last time to see if it is indeed nutrient related
This time on the gsc I'm going hard on nutes in the soil and not w what I top dressed last time to see if it is indeed nutrient related
Rasta Roy
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I'm gonna respectfully disagree. I think you're right to cut your feeding in your last two weeks. I wouldn't make your last two weeks so long bro! You're plants should be finished in 56 to 65 days after you begin 12/12 unless you're growing outside or in a tall ceiling room (pole barn style). If you had a microscope to look at your plants trichs you would probably see a lot of amber and that's degradation of thc. But you definitely had something go wrong on in your root zone. The air pocket thing seems like a likely culprit.
Organicgrow42
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I'll take a pic of trichs tomorrow when I go. Got a sick wife and kid here today so won't make it out there.
That particular strain, the God bud, I let go til it showed me amber and that took 11 weeks the first run. This time only 9.5 and she looked ready to go. Could you imagine if I just waited instead, it would be dust lol.
I truly believe it's root zone whether that be buds, watering issue, like you said air pocket possibly. Weird thing is that the gsc I know for sure never got under watered and it did the same thing. That plant was up front cuz I was so excited for it.
I'm still going to break that root zone apart and look at what's up so I'll have some pics from when I do that in a couple days, hopefully we can get to the bottom of it.
That particular strain, the God bud, I let go til it showed me amber and that took 11 weeks the first run. This time only 9.5 and she looked ready to go. Could you imagine if I just waited instead, it would be dust lol.
I truly believe it's root zone whether that be buds, watering issue, like you said air pocket possibly. Weird thing is that the gsc I know for sure never got under watered and it did the same thing. That plant was up front cuz I was so excited for it.
I'm still going to break that root zone apart and look at what's up so I'll have some pics from when I do that in a couple days, hopefully we can get to the bottom of it.
greasemonkeymann
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you know I love ya, my man, buuuut
whole 'nother argument there , but technically speaking cannabis does not have a taproot rooting system, I've done hundreds of both seeded and clones and the post harvest rootball inspections are identical.
cannabis is a fibrous rooting plant.
it does not have a taproot.
this is a taproot.
these are comparisons between a fibrous and a taproot
an example is dandelions are a taproot system, carrots, etc.
cannabis is clearly a fibrous, look at the pic on the right, and it's identical to a cannabis rooting setup