Better than the old flux capacitor, now all I need us a bolt o lightnin.The Mcrap panel is getting a vent redesign======= how exciting and secret Shenzhen tech too!lol
How about you cut the bullshit and tell us what chips are being used in that smd/mcob? No one will buy your rebranded junk until proven otherwise..
MCOB...I want to let you in on a secret...now don't tell "those people", but this is really not the place for snake oil and smoke and mirrors. Most here are going to want a brand name cob, some real spec sheets, and a PAR print. Otherwise a new side vent and a zoomy little video isn't really going to generate much excitement.Here is the current model. GrowthStar has an updated one coming out next month. It is technically ready but they still wanted to do a few tests based on feedback so far.
For the new version - same idea but with a much needed spec boost. Their spectral analysis data will be confirmed once they've done testing all the different variations and picking the best one but it will be soon.
I cannot share that information as they've told me to keep it a secret.
But here is the design. The company still believes in quality but the leuvered vents on the current models are not appreciated as much by growers. So they are going with a flat side panel but keeping the patented spider ventilation design. The costs involved in getting a new product produced and market ready is quite high especially in such a competitive marketplace. Mars clearly dominates even though their lights aren't the best out there.
The new products will be available only from GrowthStar upon release. They haven't announced anything about it so far so keep this info and these photos hush hush just between us.
NO ONE thinks your lights are too good to be true...........have you looked at the grows around here? blow away all those videos you posted.I already know the specs for the current products + new ones. They don't list them on their site because you can request the ones you want and they can customize it for you (wholesale orders). They don't do so much 1 off selling as their web prices will show.
It is funny to me that you guys think the lights are too good to be true. That just tells me that I'm using the right products and don't need to switch to something else which is fine by me! And yes I realize people on this forum are DIY lovers and not the people they are going after. DIYers know grow lights better than the average person and know they can get them made for a fraction of the cost + know what works better - some of the time.
It is funny to me that you guys think the lights are too good to be true. That just tells me that I'm using the right products and don't need to switch to something else which is fine by me!
Pretty much sums it up.No one is going to care what light you use -as long as you're not here to try and convince people that your light is superior to other lights or that it has advanced technology, etc.
They're just another low cost LED grow light. You can buy units just like that on Alibaba for $170 if you buy quantity. Obviously it's not going to be high quality components for that kind of price. I realize you have to try to sell product, just probably not many takers on this forum. I'm sure your stuff is as good as Mars. Just that Mars isn't very good either. Your units could have cheap drivers that don't power the MCOBs reliably. We have no way to know what's in that thing.I already know the specs for the current products + new ones. They don't list them on their site because you can request the ones you want and they can customize it for you (wholesale orders). They don't do so much 1 off selling as their web prices will show.
It is funny to me that you guys think the lights are too good to be true. That just tells me that I'm using the right products and don't need to switch to something else which is fine by me! And yes I realize people on this forum are DIY lovers and not the people they are going after. DIYers know grow lights better than the average person and know they can get them made for a fraction of the cost + know what works better - some of the time.
damn thats some jedi marketing if i ever heard it!It is funny to me that you guys think the lights are too good to be true. That just tells me that I'm using the right products and don't need to switch to something else which is fine by me!
I can buy those ones resold by Raysace for less than 1/5 of what Raysace sells for - with better specs. They also have the phosphor coated versions tested and out. I have all the photos specs and everything man...There are plenty of these " psuedo COB " lights that are coming out. Mostly hopping on the COB bandwagon - by name only.
Here is another questionable unit SIMILAR to MCOB .....
No description , power draw , led ratings , construction features , etc.
There are 2 types of full spectrum COBS, one that is composed of many different colored LEDs mounted on a COB. BUT have been proven to fail as each diode has different power needs and are all being driven the same. One goes they pretty much stop working
The other is a phosphor coated LED, where all diodes are the same. Even a MARS Light technically can be repaired by a DIY person by replacing the defective diode. 3-5w LEDs are easily available.
This particular RAYSACE light makes big claims with a " no info " video . They claim 15% more productive growth but fail to show how. These cobs are also BLURPLE in color and claim 800 watts !!!!!! Even the " reviews " seem questionable.
I messaged them for a little more spec info but have yet to get any response.
At least people know that even a Mars Light , Apollo , G8 can grow , because you can see actual grow videos .
I wouldnt buy a car claiming to be the fastest without checking out the engine.
Just sayin
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Sounds like a better company than many. Growing "bleacher" style was a great idea to get more plants in a small space. You could make lights using Bridgelux V22 COBs. They're only $15 each, good lumen output. People are wary of the mixed MCOBs. They associate them with cheap quality.I can buy those ones resold by Raysace for less than 1/5 of what Raysace sells for - with better specs. They also have the phosphor coated versions tested and out. I have all the photos specs and everything man...
Raysace and the manufacturers both advertise the total not actual draw. Those Raysace guys are just a reselling company that does look like a pump and dump. In fact there are many dozens of different sellers that sell that unit from the same manufacturer. Raysace just does a lot of spec marketing to justify their pricing.
I do know the manufacturers as I once inquired to order 40 units from their USA based warehouse. Growthstar tried to make those lights work last year I think around november-december by improving the specs and running tests but the units they got were bad man. Lots of manufacturer defects even when the Chinese manufacturers claimed the defect rate was nonexistant (salespeople ffs). So Growthstar eventually pulled them off their website and gave the guys that bought them refunds.
Raysace are run by a chinese company that resells the products in the USA with pretty misleading marketing practices. So if you do make a large order and you get a bunch of junk - good luck trying to pursue legal action to get your money back. Don't buy from the raysace company for those lights. You can find the same lights on amazon or ebay under different names for a lot less in a pinch. I'm pretty sure the specs are fake though. Never tried them myself...
Myself, I prefer to deal with a company that doesn't sell their products solely based on the specs alone but emphasizes photos and grow results. I do request specs since I order bigger quantities and they provide it as a result. If specs arent on their site or they won't give them to you because you are just buying 1 unit then who cares don't buy from them lol. There are thousands of other places to go and buy a light or make your own.
Anyone company can bullshit their specs but pictures and results are harder to argue with. DIY is a headache to deal with and quite frankly a waste of my time + not an option for people that care more about getting a good harvest than saving a few bucks and not being able to sleep at night wondering if the DIY units are going to fail.
Anyways, there are probably better lights out there but I'm slow to change. I'd have to be completely blown away by something new to 'see the light' if you will.
Bob, can you share a link to a guide that you recommend for DIY? I'll test one out sometime just for my own entertainment. $15 is nothing compared to the tens of thousands I spend every few months so I'll give it a shot.Sounds like a better company than many. Growing "bleacher" style was a great idea to get more plants in a small space. You could make lights using Bridgelux V22 COBs. They're only $15 each, good lumen output. People are wary of the mixed MCOBs. They associate them with cheap quality.
So you admit that you are affiliated in no uncertain terms with manufacturers and yet you are not willing to tag yourself as an advertiser.I can buy those ones resold by Raysace for less than 1/5 of what Raysace sells for.