Nute lockout/deficiency/toxicity

SDK420

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Has anyone on here used cns17 in coco?

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polishpollack

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try dyangrow instead. looks like you have a nutrient def unless it's possible that this is heat damage. if not, then try dynagrow 7-9-5 and follow the directions on the back. don't over do it.
 

SDK420

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So do you think this is a deficiency? Or a toxicity? Also do you notice the odd growth of the smaller leaf blades

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whitebb2727

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try dyangrow instead. looks like you have a nutrient def unless it's possible that this is heat damage. if not, then try dynagrow 7-9-5 and follow the directions on the back. don't over do it.
All you got to do is email or call dynagrow and you can get a good sample pack for 19.99.

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I got the kind from BOTANICARE. It was 16 bucks by PayPal.

Those big dynagrow bottles are quart size.
 

SDK420

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Those pics of leaf are 6 weeks flower
I seem to only face these issues in flower even if i veg for 3+ months

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jarvild

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Nothing wrong with CNS-17. I used it in coir for years.
Are you using the ripe now?
At 6 weeks into flowering I would expect some leaf loss.
 

SDK420

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Nothing wrong with CNS-17. I used it in coir for years.
Are you using the ripe now?
At 6 weeks into flowering I would expect some leaf loss.
Yea i switched to ripe about the 4th week. Okay so say you had a 10 gollans of coir with a very vigerous bush that drinks about 1.5 - 2 gallons of water in a lights on period. How would you approach watering and feeding with cns17. Hannah ppm meters liquid ph

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whitebb2727

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Whats up with the pro_tekt and the kln and KIND base. Sounds like somthing for people with RO water

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Protekt is a silica for the plant. It grows heartier and it helps with heat and drought resistance.

The kln is a rooting solution. The cal mag would be for ro water. Sometimes it may be needed with regular water.

I got the kind stuff for a buddy.

The dynagro will be for a dwc grow.
 

polishpollack

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you should dwc with air pump, no res, and this will keep your temp down. dynagro good for dwc, just follow directions on back.
 

SDK420

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If you guys had to guess what def that leaf is what would you say, and the whole feeding thing i was talking about

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whitebb2727

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Would silica be a good combination for a outdoor garden. Ive used dyna bloom before the stuff is superconcentrate. I would like to dwc at some time but i think maybe 82 degree water temp might cause problems? I think water temps would be fine if i didnt use a recirculating pump inside the resivoir

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Silica is great for outdoors. It makes stems and leaves thicker. Harder for bugs to eat the plant. It will help with the temps that go with outdoor.

In a dwc it would help if the water was running warm. I would still try to get that temp down a little.
 

jarvild

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Yea i switched to ripe about the 4th week. Okay so say you had a 10 gollans of coir with a very vigerous bush that drinks about 1.5 - 2 gallons of water in a lights on period. How would you approach watering and feeding with cns17. Hannah ppm meters liquid ph

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The Ripe at 1-4-5 was never enough nitrogen for my plants. So i use the bloom 2-2-3 for veg all the way to flower with Hydroplex as a mid bloom booster.
Never used a 10 gallon pot with coir. 5 gal. is what i use for my mothers, 3 gal. is my go-to for flowering.

Depending on plant size and health i do multiple feedings from 1 to 3 times during lights on. With nutrients running strength around 500 ppm or 1.0 ec .DSCN0669.JPG
 

Olive Drab Green

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Looks like phosphorus, either due to deficiency or lockout. Unless those red stems are genetic. Could probably use some cal-mag, too.
 

SDK420

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I think the stems are genes they have always been that way. I use x nutes calmag plus, it has nitrogen in it.

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SDK420

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I was feeding at like 1500 ppm 3 times a week. Maybe thats the issue. I suspected the bloom nutes were lowering the ph and caused lockout? I flushed and resumed feeding at 500 a week ago

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SDK420

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I am using ro water beause of chlorine content of tap water where im at

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