LEC - Light-Emitting Ceramic

[a senile fungus]

No. They'll be compared from here on out. May as well get a jump on that discussion.

But I'm here for the CMH discussion, here in the CMH thread.

Don't care to read about LEDs, especially in the ceramic thread.

Want me to come into your thread and discuss horizontal single ended HPS? I'm sure you don't!

These discussions are intended to be in their respective sections for the sake of organization and clarity.

Some people might call " getting a jump on that discussion" trolling.

 

[tstick]

No such thing as running COB LED too cool.

...unless the grower needs additional heat even when they already have a hard-driven COB fixture -due to the fact that the COB fixture's cooling system works "too well" to give off enough of that extra over-driven heat.

 

[GrumpyToker]

Heat between LEC and LED are about the same. Keep in mind with LED's they may not produce a lot of heat but the driver gets smoking hot.

Maybe place the driver near a fan in the winter

 

[ttystikk]

...unless the grower needs additional heat even when they already have a hard-driven COB fixture -due to the fact that the COB fixture's cooling system works "too well" to give off enough of that extra over-driven heat.

Then the room itself needs insulation. Led is still a source of heat.

 

[tstick]

I actually like the LEC...I LEC it a LOT!

 

[ttystikk]

Heat between LEC and LED are about the same. Keep in mind with LED's they may not produce a lot of heat but the driver gets smoking hot.

Maybe place the driver near a fan in the winter

Only bad drivers get hot. CMH lights put off more heat than led.

 

[tstick]

Then the room itself needs insulation. Led is still a source of heat.

But again, having to go to the extra trouble in order to compensate for something that would give me an all-in-one kind of effect to begin with....hmmmm

 

[ttystikk]

But I'm here for the CMH discussion, here in the CMH thread.

Don't care to read about LEDs, especially in the ceramic thread.

Want me to come into your thread and discuss horizontal single ended HPS? I'm sure you don't!

These discussions are intended to be in their respective sections for the sake of organization and clarity.

Some people might call " getting a jump on that discussion" trolling.

Some people might call that attitude close minded.

I'm not here to shit on CMH lights- fuck, I'm running half a dozen of them! , but when people want to compare them with COB LED, it's a fair topic for discussion here.

 

[ttystikk]

But again, having to go to the extra trouble in order to compensate for something that would give me an all-in-one kind of effect to begin with....hmmmm

Insulation will help reduce overheating in summer as well.

 

[a senile fungus]

Some people might call that attitude close minded.

I'm not here to shit on CMH lights- fuck, I'm running half a dozen of them! , but when people want to compare them with COB LED, it's a fair topic for discussion here.

I dunno man, it feels like it's being pushed pretty hard. I'm just waiting for someone to ask me to pledge myself to LED if CMH doesn't get the nomination, know what I mean?

 

[tstick]

Insulation will help reduce overheating in summer as well.

But I only grow during the cold months indoors to avoid the bugs that are present everywhere. I've found that if I do this, then I have zero bug-issues in the grow space. But the drawback with using the cool-running LED is that I have to add a space heater...etc. That's why I think the LEC might work better for me in my application. Plus, the color of the LEC light seems to be less nauseating than the standard HPS bulbs that most people run. I see some advantages to both LED and HID, but...the HID might be the ticket for me. LEC is about the only kind of light I don't have...yet!

 

[ttystikk]

I dunno man, it feels like it's being pushed pretty hard. I'm just waiting for someone to ask me to pledge myself to LED if CMH doesn't get the nomination, know what I mean?

I'm not that guy.

People have honest questions about both, and how they work relative to one another. You want me to censor my answers based on the thread title? That's just obviously unhelpful.

 

[ttystikk]

But I only grow during the cold months indoors to avoid the bugs that are present everywhere. I've found that if I do this, then I have zero bug-issues in the grow space. But the drawback with using the cool-running LED is that I have to add a space heater...etc. That's why I think the LEC might work better for me in my application. Plus, the color of the LEC light seems to be less nauseating than the standard HPS bulbs that most people run. I see some advantages to both LED and HID, but...the HID might be the ticket for me. LEC is about the only kind of light I don't have...yet!

Fair enough.

 

[StashToker]

Would be nice to have a chart or something, to break down efficiency, heat, and practical advantages of these. All compared at the same place. HPS vs LEC vs LED

ill go one farther to say that HIDs will be illegal in our lifetime

I just found out, grow bulbs are exempt from the efficiency standards outlined in EISA. http://www.bulbs.com/learning/phaseoutexemptions.aspx
Looks like we will see them for a while.

 

[ttystikk]

Would be nice to have a chart or something, to break down efficiency, heat, and practical advantages of these. All compared at the same place. HPS vs LEC vs LED


I just found out, grow bulbs are exempt from the efficiency standards outlined in EISA. http://www.bulbs.com/learning/phaseoutexemptions.aspx
Looks like we will see them for a while.

'For awhile', but lifetimes tend to be pretty long.

 

[Sire Killem All]

It feels like a COB thread for the last few pages, I mean hell I haven't read anything about LEC/CHM.
So here.
the nanolux 630w (2×315w's ) are doing great have noticed a considerable reduction in the electric, from lights and a/c not cycling as much as last run.
4×12,LEC>HPS>LEC. The LEC' s are running parmax mixed spectrum lamps except I have one Phillips green power in the far end fixture, and hortilux eye for HPS.
So far i'm noticing a real difference in the internode spacing, under the LEC the spacing in about half of that of those under the HPS, even for the sites that below the dense canopy. They seem to be lighting up the 4×4 they are coving quiet well

 

[Bad Karma]

No. They'll be compared from here on out. May as well get a jump on that discussion.

That discussion deserves it's own thread.

 

[SoOLED]

I dunno man, it feels like it's being pushed pretty hard. I'm just waiting for someone to ask me to pledge myself to LED if CMH doesn't get the nomination, know what I mean?

I really like LEC's they are rad.

 

[hyroot]

 

[Sire Killem All]

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