Without facts about my grow, it is presumptuous to claim you have more crop per year than I do. I've Been growing long enough for a kid to be born and out of college,and 6 years of Biology studies (Masters), to know I don't need to do all that seeding, sexing and jumping through hoops, old school stuff when my need for speedy crops are met with feminized seeds and a great seed source for all my practical purposes. In fact, my harvest cycle is down packed to a timely crop, I can't handle any faster.ya okay keep that thought as i harvest 2 to your 1 just from sexing early,and culling males,dont have a clue to science,its a weed dude,tinker around with them for a bit longer and give me a holler back,you should at least try it before you make your decision,no science to soil and organics,you can feed anything just about,but we need all opinions to make things better,you got yours and me mine,if you read everything i wrote ,i just cant understand how you wouldn't think,there isnt a hormone balance,might just be saying it wrong,like i said no science in my closet just excitement,especially creating new strains,give it a try,then decide
Can you explain how " root colonization" by fungi affects phototropism or any other plant physiological triggers?well, consider root colonization landmark as a big igniter in the triggering-response scene bro. Nice input, well known in mycology as a igniter or secondary bloom trigger
anyways those four five weeks for sexing fits perfectly with 18/6
Phytochrome is a photoreceptor, a pigment (enzyme) that plants use to detect light. They are part of the plant's environmental time cues, called zeitgebers (German for time givers). Some Phytochromes are sensitive to light in the red and far-red region of the visible spectrum. Many flowering plants use them to regulate the time of flowering based on the length of day and night (photoperiodism) and to set circadian rhythms, grow toward light etc. They also regulates other responses including the germination of seeds etc. They are found in leaves of most plants.I have enjoyed reading this thread. I thank all of you who have contributed to it. Right or wrong, it is good to hear people's opinions.
24 hour veg has always worked for my seeds and clones. Recent improvements to my garden has been the introduction of COB leds. I can now deliver more photons per watts used compared to my old veg light.
@Bangaman what is your opinon on the use of infrared "flower initiators" just after lights out? Can you explain the science please.
Cheers,
Will
It doesnt affect plants phototropism. That bad analogy just takes in account the full colonization & consolidation of a substrate as the first requisite prior to start a bloom phase. Also if a part of this substrate is already colonized by another species (competition relationship) or being inhospitable per se the full colonization thing its sensed/signalled as accompliseed blabla zz zzzz this happens in lower & higher fungi btw and it could help you fightin moldsCan you explain how " root colonization" by fungi affects phototropism or any other plant physiological triggers?
Up above I went in good detail why dark does nothing for cannabis but sets time to flower. I also gave a crash explanation why some plants do not need dark and grow continuously in the presence of light.
"It doesnt affect plants phototropism. That bad analogy just takes in account the full colonization & consolidation of a substrate as the first requisite prior to start a bloom phase. Also if a part of this substrate is already colonized by another species (competition relationship) or being inhospitable per se the full colonization thing its sensed/signalled as accompliseed blabla zz zzzz this happens in lower & higher fungi btw and it could help you fightin molds
Can you explain this again pls? cos i'm about to draw that in a t-shirt^
Any actual science behind this or is this more bro science? Because the actual science says no dark needed for a "a better plant system/structure."That rebuild of the enzyme reservoir vs never depleted doesn't has to be a scary thing m8. If you give plants a couple dark night cycles they will be adjusted from the root tip to the thylakoid. Just double the light intensity and you will get a better plant system/structure in dark cycled plants
I agree. Everyone knows photosynthesis net its always optimized at a given par(low or high)+environment. At this point no one is gonna earn a medal^. Plant obviously will try to generate new tissue [with proper new % stomata, cell guards,etc] or reallocate starches whenever you dim up the light.Lets say you have pure or decent source of light radiation in the 400 to 700 nanometers range, in adding this light energy you must balance by adding more co2 otherwise it is bust. if you give too much of the right radiation photorespiration kills the plant and it is bust.
The why in "why they adapt slightly better when you introduce dark cycles." is there is no experimental proof that plants do better with a dark cycle. The is however overwhelming evidence pointing to the contrary.I agree. Everyone knows photosynthesis net its always optimized at a given par(low or high)+environment. At this point no one is gonna earn a medal^. Plant obviously will try to generate new tissue [with proper new % stomata, cell guards,etc] or reallocate starches whenever you dim up the light.
What i truly don't know is why they adapt slightly better when you introduce dark cycles. My first thoughts point to the rootzone but it looks you are better prepared to answer this.
@since1991Tulip and veggie growers in Holland are experimenting witj far red led lighing as a supplement to sunlight. The go to is double ended P.l. Hortiluz Schraeder fixtures but they are on the cutting edge over there....always have been really. And there is a big tomato greenhouee op in socal amd arizona i believe. Forget the name...but they are running at near 100% efficiency with virtually 0 waste. Solar and wind with all supplemet lamps. And some big machine that recycles waste gas from gennys and dehuey water. Its amazing. Almost net zero waste loss..Real.cutting edge. Its on youtube. Scientists and engineers told them it was impossible. Only one of its kind in America. Besides labor everything is almost all profit.
Moon phases, huh? And Doctors performed and justified Lobotomy and gave patients Arsenic for decades. Heck, we used Led in paint, Asbestos in in everything all these things for eons until science came along. Those doctors and engineers too swore they were correct. But I feel ya, staying in bliss with Joe Grow's advice and Bro Science is more fun for some peeps. Its all goodwow this turned into a damn science class,thread started in 2010 and hear 6 yrs later,class is still in,i dont even remember were i started,someone asked if 24 hr of light was a benift for them i answered back i did,again from paper towel to half cup of ocean forset soil,when plant gets 3rd set of nodes,the solo cup goes from 24 hr of light to 12 hrs of light,when the solo cup and plant shows sex,it is then transplanted into 3 gallon pots when the plant gets 14 in tall they go back to flower room and finished out. benifit for me is building stem mass by roots hitting bottom quicker and start filling out,this alone reducing veg time simply because within 3 weeks from paper towel they are sexed and transplanted to final pot,no science no dna test no nothing but fucking with lights to fool them into thinking the season changing on them,thats all,funny you all mention all this book crap and not a single thing mentioned about moon stages,how do you explain that,but can explain a small light leak in your room giving you hermies and shit.cant remember who it was that was growing before i was born and cum on my mama and daddys sheets,but i tell you friend i was there,and if you remember right and as old a experenced as you claim to be ,in the late 60's and early 70's i knew about 4 folks that grew there bud under lights in there homes and it was done with hps street lights they aquired,when us and mexico started spraying paraqute and sent the whole community into lock down,you should remmeber that,down south here everyone turned to acid,so with that i will leave you all thread because a open mind of develoment isnt wanted or needed here,to many old folk stuck in there ways,but thanks for the science class been a while for me,YOU KNOW ME AND MY METHODS IS JUST SHOOTING FROM THE HIP anyway and my harvest and strains ive built and done the work on was just luck,hell think i need to play the lottery,TO ALL OF YOU BLAZE TILL YOUR DAZED AND TAKE ANOTHER HIT FOR ME
Whats bro science?Moon phases, huh? And Doctors performed and justified Lobotomy and gave patients Arsenic for decades. Heck, we used Led in paint, Asbestos in in everything all these things for eons until science came along. Those doctors and engineers too swore they were correct. But I feel ya, staying in bliss with Joe Grow's advice and Bro Science is more fun for some peeps. Its all good