EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

Corso312

Corso312

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Stein is the real McCoy, this country n world would be a much better place if the Green party got in...


I'm not voting n I don't give a fuck who wins, my life won't change, I'm getting old n will be 41or 42 by the time a new election rolls around... I like Londonfog and schuyllar ..both passionate n progressive n I like reading their posts but I just can't vote 4 Hillary..she's such a scumbag n she just wants it way 2 much... She's bought n paid 4 .
 
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schuylaar

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ttystikk said:
In other words, the whole system is rigged, and they just want voters to keep being fooled into thinking they're getting a choice.

This is the crux of my argument against those who would have me vote for Mrs Clinton in the general. That's mafia style,
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Yes. That is why he is polling in Rhode Island to win. You can register for party right up to day of vote.

WhoTF knows who you are going to vote for (for sure) until right before?

But at one (1) year prior?:finger:

What else do you call it but voter suppression?

I'm writing in Sanders..let the deck shuffle itself.
 
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schuylaar

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Padawanbater2 said:
I've been thinking a little about this, how would we prevent republicans from voting for the dem candidate they think they can beat in the general election (or vice versa)? Are people allowed to vote in both primaries if they're open?
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You can vote for ANYONE in the GENERAL regardless of party you are registered to.

In the primary you MUST vote along party line you are registered to..as an Independent, there wasn't anyone representing the party therefore I was turned away. Many others were disenfranchised too.

In all honesty, I was told as an Indy, I could vote for anyone..they just failed to mention that those aren't the rules for the primary..as I mentioned in my original confession, I wasn't the only one walking out with NO 'I voted' sticker..I received bad verbal information and didn't double-check..so did others..but it's my fault for not checking.

So to answer your question..you can't.
 
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schuylaar

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londonfog said:
you had this thread up showing your support for Bernie long before the Florida deadline to register. You have no excuse for your failure in voting for Bernie, but I do find it humorous.

Bernie biggest fan didn't vote for him in the primary, because she didn't pay attention
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Actually I do have an excuse...bad information however..ultimately my fault and I take ownership.

I'm going to feel really bad when Sanders doesn't get the nom because of one vote..mine.

We all know that's not how it works though..see Super-Delegate.
 
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schuylaar

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Padawanbater2 said:
What's the justification for having a rule like that? The only reason I can think to enact something like that would be to favor the establishment candidate. Many people who support Sanders today didn't know about him in October
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And each state has different rules; deadlines..registration is different date as is party affiliation yet another.
 
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schuylaar

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Padawanbater2 said:
What's the justification for having a rule like that? The only reason I can think to enact something like that would be to favor the establishment candidate. Many people who support Sanders today didn't know about him in October
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And that was intensified by the way media was reporting primary results in order to further rig the system for states voting the next day..I posted an article here about how they were reporting Clinton the winner with only 1% of precincts reporting ie; the delegates choice..this combined with 'the first thing you hear' impression?

All you hear is Clinton; therefore you vote Clinton.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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schuylaar said:
You can vote for ANYONE in the GENERAL regardless of party you are registered to.

In the primary you MUST vote along party line you are registered to..as an Independent, there wasn't anyone representing the party therefore I was turned away. Many others were disenfranchised too.

In all honesty, I was told as an Indy, I could vote for anyone..they just failed to mention that those aren't the rules for the primary..as I mentioned in my original confession, I wasn't the only one walking out with NO 'I voted' sticker..I received bad verbal information and didn't double-check..so did others..but it's my fault for not checking.

So to answer your question..you can't.
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OMG. It would really help if you learned the rules. You are only hurting yourself and others spreading false information.
Every State has different rules as to how they run their primary or caucus, but in an open primary you can cross party lines and vote for whoever. In a closed primary you cannot. It's very important to learn if your state is open or closed primary. Florida runs a closed primary (nothing new), so you should have known that you would have to register as a Dem to vote Dem. You are a low info voter
 
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schuylaar

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londonfog said:
OMG. It would really help if you learned the rules. You are only hurting yourself and others spreading false information.
Every State has different rules as to how they run their primary or caucus, but in an open primary you can cross party lines and vote for whoever. In a closed primary you cannot. It's very important to learn if your state is open or closed primary. Florida runs a closed primary (nothing new), so you should have known that you would have to register as a Dem to vote Dem. You are a low info voter
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I'm gonna feel really bad when Sanders misses the nom because of me.
 
Fogdog

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Corso312 said:
I hate the whole system, there should be a voting week nationwide, long lines discourages voters..get rid of the electoral college, caucuses and delegates.
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Vote by mail is the best. People can cast ballots as on the day ballots arrive in the mail (April 27) up to the day of the election (May 17). One of the few things Oregon Pukes and Democrats agree on is that they like the system.

No lines on the day of the election
No fraud
No effin hanging chads
Ballot is cast at the dining table over a cup of coffee and internet available to help answer questions.
Oregon voter turnout averages 60%, about 8% higher than national average and 6th highest in the US.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Vote by mail is the best. People can cast ballots as on the day ballots arrive in the mail (April 27) up to the day of the election (May 17). One of the few things Oregon Pukes and Democrats agree on is that they like the system.

No lines on the day of the election
No fraud
No effin hanging chads
Ballot is cast at the dining table over a cup of coffee and internet available to help answer questions.
Oregon voter turnout averages 60%, about 8% higher than national average and 6th highest in the US.
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That's because in Oregon, the party apparatchiks on both sides agreed to a truce to let the voter be heard. That battle- one of voter suppression, in the final analysis- is still yet to be won in many states, very notably many of those which are republican dominated.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Fogdog said:
Vote by mail is the best. People can cast ballots as on the day ballots arrive in the mail (April 27) up to the day of the election (May 17). One of the few things Oregon Pukes and Democrats agree on is that they like the system.

No lines on the day of the election
No fraud
No effin hanging chads
Ballot is cast at the dining table over a cup of coffee and internet available to help answer questions.
Oregon voter turnout averages 60%, about 8% higher than national average and 6th highest in the US.
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I loved researching every proposition and candidate thoroughly while I was living there.

Then I would get drunk and walk my ballot to the dropoff on election day.

Twas a good ritual.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
That's because in Oregon, the party apparatchiks on both sides agreed to a truce to let the voter be heard. That battle- one of voter suppression, in the final analysis- is still yet to be won in many states, very notably many of those which are republican dominated.
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When I read of what goes on in Michigan and Ohio, not to mention Florida, I wonder why the people of the state simply let it go. Vote by mail in Oregon was instituted by initiative and over the heads of the apparatchiks. Some right wingers still call the process "vote by fraud" but the system has been relatively free of electoral fraud. But overall, 75% of republicans and 85% of Democrats say they like the process. The apparatchiks aren't about to take on that kind of sentiment.
 
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