Dispensaries and Compassion Club privacy...must be on the low end

[The Hippy]

Ok so here's something we have discussed breifly before. But not enough.
Now I could walk into any dispensary in Canada and easily sign up with my valid mmar papers. T
he issue is Who the fuck are these people running theses places. It's full of young folks selling and buying. How much is my security considered. I mean after all, we're suing the gov over disclosure right now. I don't need my info spread all over place. Or leaked to whoever it may be leaked too.
I should just willy nilly give my info to these kids in these places??? So my address can be kept in the unsecure files they all have. It's bullshit.
Ya I heard these dispensary owner's say " oh we only use a secure in store system to keep our records on ". Or nobody but so and so can see it after it's entered.
Well I call fuckin bullshit !!!
It seems pretty stupid to just give this VERY personal info to a bunch-a youngen's at the local CC or dispensary.
How about they tell me who the fuck they are. Address's and all. Let see your driver license too if ya don't mind..MY Budtender. Bet they go quiet then!
And to think they ask this of you and aren't even a legal business. That part is funny.
So who exactly are these records for then.
They claim they need them to prove they are only selling to a patient...ya gimme a break on that too.
Prove to who...??????????
Let's face it if you came in a said you were Bozo the clown, They'd copy it all down and be done with it.
Most likely photocopy your DL for shit's an giggles as well.
I'm glad for storefronts where folks can purchase. I'm just not for these places pretending they are secure or even remotely secure. Let's face it, they're setup for security wouldn't pass much of a real test.
Here's the real deal. These places are selling weed illegally. I'm not against that. Just against telling these folks, who and where I'm can be found.
Now I realize these folks have more to do than disseminate private info but at the same time we're not talking about actual honest to goodness professional security.
As far as I'm concerned they don't need to know who I am any more than I need to know they only get this info to pretend they're asses are cover.........save the kids ya know.
Meanwhile your info is on some weed heads computer. Who is pretending to be helping you. Wrong they are selling weed for profit.
I know how business work very well my friends.

 

[Gmack420]

Assume your personal info is at risk. If you have mmar grow permit I wouldn't show that to anyone outside of law enforcement just to protect your grow. Your possession permit is another story but even then why show it if these stores are accepting pill bottles as proof of your medical need? I'd share as little personal info as possible.

 

[SirLoweed]

Lol, you is a funny one Hip.....

When Organtix was in it's early birth stage here in KW, they had some 'internal struggles' and I was forced to submit my paperwork again. Why you ask? "An ex-employee had taken all of the patient contact info/records with him to Hamilton." Really? Nicely done folks....

 

[GroErr]

This is a good point and the main reason I never registered and never will. You can not only assume, I can guarantee you that your information is not secure. My line of work is going in and assessing the damage done by hackers after there's been a security breach, cleaning it up, and putting in technology and processes to avoid future hacks. My customers are much bigger companies than any of these dispensaries or LP's will ever be, they have security/systems in place, they have policies & procedures in place. Yet they still get hacked and most of the time it has nothing to do with technology, the weakest links in security are people and processes, processes because they're mostly reliant on people. Now imagine the security, people and processes in place in any of these small dispensaries, enough said?

 

[The Hippy]

Lets face it the CC's or Disp's aren't gonna come on here and say " yes " they are 100% secure.
Cause they know we don't and won't buy that bullshit.
I' d go to some of these places to grab a bit of this or that...ya know...for fun. I like variety.
But handing over my personal info will prevent me from doing that.
We have new one in Waterloo...too pricey, but the variety seems great. I'd love to shop here and there for fun. But to them ...they can just call and sign me up as "Bozo " I'm cool with that. They gonna have a lot of Bozo's me thinks these places will. time for fake ID. After all they are " fake legal business " So why not me be fake too.

 

[The Hippy]

guess who kids/budtenders...it's me

 

[GroErr]

Lets face it the CC's or Disp's aren't gonna come on here and say " yes " they are 100% secure.
Cause they know we don't and won't buy that bullshit.
I' d go to some of these places to grab a bit of this or that...ya know...for fun. I like variety.
But handing over my personal info will prevent me from doing that.
We have new one in Waterloo...too pricey, but the variety seems great. I'd love to shop here and there for fun. But to them ...call can sign me as "Bozo " I'm cool with that. They gonna have a lot of Bozo's me thinks these places will. time for fake ID. After all they are " fake legal business " So why not me be fake too.

Sounds like a short-term business opportunity (fake ID's for medical MJ before legalization), hmmm, I know "a guy"

 

[bigmanc]

How do you feel they could do it differently?

Club I go to just looked at my ID to confirm it was the same name as my MMAR. Can't do much when they need to photocopy your mmj license and the address is there.

 

[The Hippy]

How do you feel they could do it differently?

Club I go to just looked at my ID to confirm it was the same name as my MMAR. Can't do much when they need to photocopy your mmj license and the address is there.

That's my issue. They act like they are obeying a law or are protecting the community. That's fuckin bullshit.
What they are, is a money making gray area business that essentially has NO business asking who I am.
They pretend that by asking for your credentials they are obeying some kind of made up law.
They are selling weed to the public...simple as that. Make up any excuse and grab a pill bottle...off you go...your gold.
Here 's another very good question. Are these storefronts charging tax? Now that would be a real JOKE. If they do ...whois on the paperwork as the company who is remitting these taxes. Nothing like bilking an extra 13% from folks....man this is outta control.

 

[Princess of Pot]

In my dispensary, we collect the information of clients because we are dispensing a controlled narcotic. Think of us as a pharmacy. They have all your info too. What if we need to get in touch with you because we need to do a recall or the medicine you've been waiting for is in? It's not like we have a set of rules we have to follow - that's part of the problem. There are no rules - most of us are trying to be as legit as possible and we are guessing on how to do it. I mean, if you have a legit need for medical MJ what does it matter if you're registered at the dispensary? We are allowed to exist bc we provide a service that patients need. If there was no need for us - we wouldn't exist. As for HST - I do charge it and I do remit it. I just filed my first quarterly installment yesterday.

 

[nobody important 666]

Ok so here's something we have discussed breifly before. But not enough.
Now I could walk into any dispensary in Canada and easily sign up with my valid mmar papers. T
he issue is Who the fuck are these people running theses places. It's full of young folks selling and buying. How much is my security considered. I mean after all, we're suing the gov over disclosure right now. I don't need my info spread all over place. Or leaked to whoever it may be leaked too.
I should just willy nilly give my info to these kids in these places??? So my address can be kept in the unsecure files they all have. It's bullshit.
Ya I heard these dispensary owner's say " oh we only use a secure in store system to keep our records on ". Or nobody but so and so can see it after it's entered.
Well I call fuckin bullshit !!!
It seems pretty stupid to just give this VERY personal info to a bunch-a youngen's at the local CC or dispensary.
How about they tell me who the fuck they are. Address's and all. Let see your driver license too if ya don't mind..MY Budtender. Bet they go quiet then!
And to think they ask this of you and aren't even a legal business. That part is funny.
So who exactly are these records for then.
They claim they need them to prove they are only selling to a patient...ya gimme a break on that too.
Prove to who...??????????
Let's face it if you came in a said you were Bozo the clown, They'd copy it all down and be done with it.
Most likely photocopy your DL for shit's an giggles as well.
I'm glad for storefronts where folks can purchase. I'm just not for these places pretending they are secure or even remotely secure. Let's face it, they're setup for security wouldn't pass much of a real test.
Here's the real deal. These places are selling weed illegally. I'm not against that. Just against telling these folks, who and where I'm can be found.
Now I realize these folks have more to do than disseminate private info but at the same time we're not talking about actual honest to goodness professional security.
As far as I'm concerned they don't need to know who I am any more than I need to know they only get this info to pretend they're asses are cover.........save the kids ya know.
Meanwhile your info is on some weed heads computer. Who is pretending to be helping you. Wrong they are selling weed for profit.
I know how business work very well my friends.

Funny how a year ago i was saying the same thing and in return i was called an lp shill.

 

[gb123]

just wait till it becomes Rec Hippy, then you wont have to pass off your info.

 

[The Hippy]

In my dispensary, we collect the information of clients because we are dispensing a controlled narcotic. Think of us as a pharmacy. They have all your info too. What if we need to get in touch with you because we need to do a recall or the medicine you've been waiting for is in? It's not like we have a set of rules we have to follow - that's part of the problem. There are no rules - most of us are trying to be as legit as possible and we are guessing on how to do it. I mean, if you have a legit need for medical MJ what does it matter if you're registered at the dispensary? We are allowed to exist bc we provide a service that patients need. If there was no need for us - we wouldn't exist. As for HST - I do charge it and I do remit it. I just filed my first quarterly installment yesterday.

Will you show me yours ? I'd like to know who I buy from...turn around is fair play. I may need to call you after hours to ask few Q's. Not unreasonable.
And who exactly is asking you to see my I.D. nobody...that's my point.
I understand the predicament your in Princess. But essentially you are in no real actual predicament. Because nobody is enforcing shit. It's a problem for us both.
The predicament becomes ALL mine once I've exposed my Identity.
I will not be offering any personal info to someone who had enough rent to make a lease. Throwing a name above the doors does not a legit trustable business make.

For instance who wants to add their real name and address to this thread......any takers...nope and we all know it.

 

[The Hippy]

I think my real point here is the in actuality your giving out your personal info to a bunch of over stocked BM weed sellers. And we all know how on the ball they can be.
Fuck lets not kids ourselves. This is the black market selling storefront weed...for profit.
It's a JOKE...read JOKE twice. You might as well show the kids at Mr. Sub all you personal Info.
Including where your own grow is.
Careful folks..this serious as you probably shop where you live.
Here's another very good Q...who screens the employee's ?
It's all pretty fly by night to me.
I usually guard my privacy.

 

[The Hippy]

As for HST - I do charge it and I do remit it. I just filed my first quarterly installment yesterday.

CRA is salivating over your remit. The accounting legal stuff must be interesting to say the least.
What business did you say it was....specifically doing?
They don't want to morally censor you...they just want the money.

 

[Gmack420]

CRA is salivating over your remit. The accounting legal stuff must be interesting to say the least.
What business did you say it was....specifically doing?
They don't want to morally censor you...they just want the money.

Cra doesn't care if you're a doctor, weed dealer, McDonald's employee or a pirate they expect you to claim all your income, legal or otherwise and pay taxes on it. They can and will assess you and add penaltys for failing to claim income if they have the slightest cue you're being dishonest in your tax filings. I'm guessing the princess is saying its from retail sales without specifying exactly from what products... They tax you at a higher rate illigal income.

 

[The Hippy]

Cra doesn't care if you're a doctor, weed dealer, McDonald's employee or a pirate they expect you to claim all your income, legal or otherwise and pay taxes on it. They can and will assess you and add penaltys for failing to claim income if they have the slightest cue you're being dishonest in your tax filings. I'm guessing the princess is saying its from retail sales without specifying exactly from what products... They tax you at a higher rate illigal income.

Don't assume I don't know CRA...I know them plenty good. Submitted hundred's of returns even in the old PST days..then GST...then HST ...I knew them plenty good. And they knew me...signatures and all. Licenses and all. I ran several much more complicate companies than any dispensary will ever be for more than 30 years.
I just never said I sold weed is all I'm saying. I'd like a video phone when I told them that.
I already know...they just want the money. But then again everyone does.

 

[Princess of Pot]

Will you show me yours ? I'd like to know who I buy from...turn around is fair play. I may need to call you after hours to ask few Q's. Not unreasonable.
And who exactly is asking you to see my I.D. nobody...that's my point.
I understand the predicament your in Princess. But essentially you are in no real actual predicament. Because nobody is enforcing shit. It's a problem for us both.
The predicament becomes ALL mine once I've exposed my Identity.
I will not be offering any personal info to someone who had enough rent to make a lease. Throwing a name above the doors does not a legit trustable business make.

For instance who wants to add their real name and address to this thread......any takers...nope and we all know it.

I have people come into my store with the same concerns. And I tell them that they don't have to sign up with us. It's their choice. If you don't feel comfortable doing it - don't. You are in a position where you don't have to - you have another source of your medication and that's great. We are here for the med patients that don't grow and don't get the selection that they need from the LPs. I got into this business to help people have access to medication that they need - not to exploit them.

 

[gb123]

since when has CRA required illegal business to pay taxes?
If you pay the piper, princess, does that include you in the club?
if they do indeed shut D's down. Wouldn't CRA now be held accountable for illegal dealings?
I'm hearing that my Nephew has no problem using D's.
He's a teen.
Watching global the other month and they had no issues buying from a few places.

 

[The Hippy]

I have people come into my store with the same concerns. And I tell them that they don't have to sign up with us. It's their choice. If you don't feel comfortable doing it - don't. You are in a position where you don't have to - you have another source of your medication and that's great. We are here for the med patients that don't grow and don't get the selection that they need from the LPs. I got into this business to help people have access to medication that they need - not to exploit them.

Just curious but what forms of credit do you offer. Visa...debit....anything in a card form taken ?