Bangaman
Active Member
For all new growers out there, This is the deal with advice in forums.
If the post states something as if it were gospel without scientific backup, and just pictures, ignore it. There are more ways than one. Do your research. I have heard folks on here bash Wiki and Academic research papers published online stating those folks do not know what they are doing...Well, know that most of what we are doing today in indoor grow rooms comes from the academic community, their research and findings.
If the Post Knocks another posted method and does not give concrete scientific explanation, ignore it. What works for one may not work for the other. Case in Point, Miracle Grow. It is an excellent nutrient and your plants will thrive and in most cases, better than some very expensive and exotic stuff out there. You have Miracle Grow for Veg with high Nitrogen content, up to NPK 36-6-6, and you have Miracle Grow for Flowering with high P Content. Do not take any ones word for it, try it and you will see. If someone's method failed it is most likely not due to the nutrient brand, but the grower did something wrong.
Do not get carried away with the whole Natural Organic Crap, it is exactky that, Crap. Why? All you have is anecdotal evidence that your weed will taste better or that "non-organic" nutrients willmake your weed taste bad. That is myth. It is the grower that sucked. Do not take my word for it, use your head, Once in solution there is no difference between one Nitrate molecule from a non so called Organic source and one from a regular source. Do not get suckered into the sharabia of organic growing. These folks are out to wage some imaginary war against anything that is not labeled organic. Tobacco grown indoors tastes no different from tobacci grown out door. Tomatoes grown indoors taste no different from tomatoes grown out doors, and weed grown indoors tastes no different than weed grown out doors. Do not take my word for it, try it if you have the out door space, or go to one of these clinics most of them grow indoors and people cannot tell the difference.
When I started out as a serious grower years back, I used the wet paper towel method, a heating pad, and I cut a solo cup in half and filled it with water and covered the whole thing between two plates, the result was 60% germination rate. I blamed the seed bank and tried again, 70% germination rate. This method had come highly recommended. That is 6- out of every ten seeds germinated for me. Then I used a 36 Peat Pellet Greenhouse for $4.98 at home depot and a heating pad, I received 100% germination rate and, by the 3rd day all my seeds were out, tall and strong, no transplant issues as I simply took the little cube and put it into the soil. Versus 7-10 days with the paper towel method before the first seed popped a "tail". The Peat Pellet method may not work for you as it did for me, just like the wet paper towel did not work for me.
And about the 24/0 versus 18 / 6. Use your head, it is not only proven fact that plants do not need darkness for anything but to tell when to start flowering, and that plants feed and grow continuously under light, your plants will grow 25% slower if you feed then 25% less light. 25% Faster growth means 25% less time in veg if plant size is your personal cue to start flowering. This is particularly relevant if you plan on Topping your plants and do not want to lose too much time because topping does shave weeks off the growth rate.
Please note that if you do everything right, your yield with Miracle Grow will always blow anyothother Nutrient out of the water. Do not take my word for it, experiment for yourself. I have done this side by side experiment over and over. My reasoning is that Miracle grow company being one of the oldest if not the oldest company to product of of its kind in terms of plant nutrients for Macro and Micro Nutrients that are fast delivered, to the plant system and in a very efficient way. If used as directed youw ill never burn your plants. Miracle grow has been around since 1940 and has had time and they have the money to perfect their product better than most.
Do not get misled by the GMO farce.
Miracle grow has been linked to GMO and they were fined $500,000 back in 2007 for creating a genetically modified organism (Kentucky Blue Grass) that was a super grass and the indigenous grass could not compete. If you do not like MG because of the GMO stuff, then do not smoke Cannabis that has been bread for high potency, high CBD, or even Autoflower, or any other Cannabis on the market today, just stick to pure strains because almost any strain of Cannabis you will get out there is a Genetic Modification, hence a GMO.
The true battle about GMOs is that only big corportaions used to be able to afford them and small farmers could not. Today, any Joe Schmo Dicky Farmer is growing a Genetically resistant strain. Bro Science has people believing that to create a GMO that is resistant to a pest the companies and including pesticides in the plant genetics and therefore people are ingesting pesticides. How dumb is that?
All they are doing is no different than what you do to select clones, you take the hardiest most fit mother.
Bottom line, There is no magic to growing Cannabis, and there is no method out there better than the last. If something works or you think it will work for you do it and find out for yourself. Do not get caught up with people in forums who say or think their way is gospel.
Lots of people on here are afraid. They are scared of change or that someone would do something different proving they could have been doing better all along. Fear of a first time grower like yourself surpassing them so they come on here and spew Bro Science, misinformation and or poor interpreted science.
The survey is not for MG soil but all purpose plant food
Happy Gardening
If the post states something as if it were gospel without scientific backup, and just pictures, ignore it. There are more ways than one. Do your research. I have heard folks on here bash Wiki and Academic research papers published online stating those folks do not know what they are doing...Well, know that most of what we are doing today in indoor grow rooms comes from the academic community, their research and findings.
If the Post Knocks another posted method and does not give concrete scientific explanation, ignore it. What works for one may not work for the other. Case in Point, Miracle Grow. It is an excellent nutrient and your plants will thrive and in most cases, better than some very expensive and exotic stuff out there. You have Miracle Grow for Veg with high Nitrogen content, up to NPK 36-6-6, and you have Miracle Grow for Flowering with high P Content. Do not take any ones word for it, try it and you will see. If someone's method failed it is most likely not due to the nutrient brand, but the grower did something wrong.
Do not get carried away with the whole Natural Organic Crap, it is exactky that, Crap. Why? All you have is anecdotal evidence that your weed will taste better or that "non-organic" nutrients willmake your weed taste bad. That is myth. It is the grower that sucked. Do not take my word for it, use your head, Once in solution there is no difference between one Nitrate molecule from a non so called Organic source and one from a regular source. Do not get suckered into the sharabia of organic growing. These folks are out to wage some imaginary war against anything that is not labeled organic. Tobacco grown indoors tastes no different from tobacci grown out door. Tomatoes grown indoors taste no different from tomatoes grown out doors, and weed grown indoors tastes no different than weed grown out doors. Do not take my word for it, try it if you have the out door space, or go to one of these clinics most of them grow indoors and people cannot tell the difference.
When I started out as a serious grower years back, I used the wet paper towel method, a heating pad, and I cut a solo cup in half and filled it with water and covered the whole thing between two plates, the result was 60% germination rate. I blamed the seed bank and tried again, 70% germination rate. This method had come highly recommended. That is 6- out of every ten seeds germinated for me. Then I used a 36 Peat Pellet Greenhouse for $4.98 at home depot and a heating pad, I received 100% germination rate and, by the 3rd day all my seeds were out, tall and strong, no transplant issues as I simply took the little cube and put it into the soil. Versus 7-10 days with the paper towel method before the first seed popped a "tail". The Peat Pellet method may not work for you as it did for me, just like the wet paper towel did not work for me.
And about the 24/0 versus 18 / 6. Use your head, it is not only proven fact that plants do not need darkness for anything but to tell when to start flowering, and that plants feed and grow continuously under light, your plants will grow 25% slower if you feed then 25% less light. 25% Faster growth means 25% less time in veg if plant size is your personal cue to start flowering. This is particularly relevant if you plan on Topping your plants and do not want to lose too much time because topping does shave weeks off the growth rate.
Please note that if you do everything right, your yield with Miracle Grow will always blow anyothother Nutrient out of the water. Do not take my word for it, experiment for yourself. I have done this side by side experiment over and over. My reasoning is that Miracle grow company being one of the oldest if not the oldest company to product of of its kind in terms of plant nutrients for Macro and Micro Nutrients that are fast delivered, to the plant system and in a very efficient way. If used as directed youw ill never burn your plants. Miracle grow has been around since 1940 and has had time and they have the money to perfect their product better than most.
Do not get misled by the GMO farce.
Miracle grow has been linked to GMO and they were fined $500,000 back in 2007 for creating a genetically modified organism (Kentucky Blue Grass) that was a super grass and the indigenous grass could not compete. If you do not like MG because of the GMO stuff, then do not smoke Cannabis that has been bread for high potency, high CBD, or even Autoflower, or any other Cannabis on the market today, just stick to pure strains because almost any strain of Cannabis you will get out there is a Genetic Modification, hence a GMO.
The true battle about GMOs is that only big corportaions used to be able to afford them and small farmers could not. Today, any Joe Schmo Dicky Farmer is growing a Genetically resistant strain. Bro Science has people believing that to create a GMO that is resistant to a pest the companies and including pesticides in the plant genetics and therefore people are ingesting pesticides. How dumb is that?
All they are doing is no different than what you do to select clones, you take the hardiest most fit mother.
Bottom line, There is no magic to growing Cannabis, and there is no method out there better than the last. If something works or you think it will work for you do it and find out for yourself. Do not get caught up with people in forums who say or think their way is gospel.
Lots of people on here are afraid. They are scared of change or that someone would do something different proving they could have been doing better all along. Fear of a first time grower like yourself surpassing them so they come on here and spew Bro Science, misinformation and or poor interpreted science.
The survey is not for MG soil but all purpose plant food
Happy Gardening
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