Why do you newbs always grow auto's?

justugh

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My sentiments exactly! When growing to support yourself, family, or even to keep you in smiles, everything is on the line. Especially the haters that talk. Sucks the only way to be cleared for medical is damn near dying. I'm sure the same thing applies for my neighboring states. Name is all we got, so rock on! I haven't looked at the cost per plant n while I'm not rich or well off by any means, I just make the sacrifice on other things to achieve or supply the girls with their accessories! lol! I'm trying to figure a more efficient way or to save on the nutes, but not slim or cut back on the potency. Basically, I wanna learn how to get maximum results outta my nutes. Prices around my way is about 265-285 bucks per oz, so the more I can get out per plant, the better! Especially when the seed is running for 22 bucks max. If done correctly, the profit range is definitely work doing your grow successfully. I wish n pray to the herb Gods that you get your shop up n running! You would definitely get my support. I also respect you for utilizing your grow to its fullest potential. The cookies, candies, n oils... Awesome! Keep up the green scene Justugh! I will be keeping an watch for more knowledge, tips, n tricks from you in the future! Awesome!
i skipped eat for 2 months every other day to save up 600 bucks to start my frsit grow ...........u just re invest the money u make for better gear this increases what u can make in that same area.....i started on cfls then moved to T5s then to hids then to led then to led and cobs ........... u need to sit down and run your numbers figure out the base cost for 1 plant in your set up .......then u times that number by 3
1 time to recover your cost
2 times to double up for next grow
3 times for the effort and possible jail time

for me that was 90 bucks so 3 times 90 is 270 i rounded it up i ask 300 a oz .......when it is a buddy or someone 250 ........this way no matter what u make what u need for the next cycle .....once u build up a system got everything u need that is when the cash collects like it does with me ........i use the cash to pay for things my family needs /help out my buddies with something ......or i spend on self like this on a vacation

i fill nitch ........i only need to make 6-8 oz a month for my stead sales ........anything extra is just that ......i wanted to build up a supply here so if i did move my ppl would be covered for a few months while they look for a new hook up ....but 4/20 cleared all that out i have 2 oz when i use to have 26
 

.ODanksta.

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hey in my defense i was drunk from ren fair ......and doing it there all day with no issue other then sending a 76 year old women to the hospital (to strong for her) she was ok just freaked out from the puff .....and it was a undercover dea not someone in uniform or looked like a cop ....he was cool with it showed me badge told me put it away ......it was his wife that was the bitch and called the local cops .....in the end the charges got put on pbj so only have a arrest reacord for it (why becuase the rehab lady wrote a note to the judge saying i am not addicted and have a medical need for weed)

as for how is it more profitable ........basic math ....nothing to do with being smart it is just simple math
less time to complete a plant
less area needed to complete the plant
less energy needed to complete the plant ( lighting and evo controll)
less feed to complete the plant

here are the numbers run them yourself
photo
18/6 for 6 weeks for veggie ..........mh bulb or blue heavy leds
12/12 for 8 to 12 weeks for flowering .......hps bulb or red heavy leds

auto
20/4 for the veggie about 4 to 5 weeks .............does not matter they like both so a cob or full spec led works
20/4 for the flowering about 5 to 6 weeks ...........ditto


so a auto plant needs only 1 light in one area .......as where photos need 2 lights in 2 different areas so that means more support gear too
now u got the time factor of 10 to 12 for a auto to complete ........a photo 16-18 weeks to complete .......so a auto set up could do more strains and amount in the same area as a photo in a years period (that is always the key to good op to have the strains on a rotation so u are not selling 1 for 2 months ppl get tired of it want something new)....so that is less area needed over all for autos

now u want to talk effect and thc ratings we can ..........thanks to the breeders autos are as strong as the photos now and with the right lighting and feed plans they can produce higher amounts then they are rated for just like photos do ............again the majorary of the sales is REC they are only worried about the taste and the high effect

only medical strains are truly different when it comes to autos and photos.....that is the terepenes lvls they make i have chemical read outs of just that .......autos just do not have the time to form those high of doses as the photos can do
NO!!!

100 days from start to finish for photos.

So you say no need to for two rooms? Well where dafuq do the seeds come from? So lets say you get raped from some breeder for what ever dafuq you pay for seeds?

So let's say you produce your own seeds, on a large scale. You are going to seed the fuck out your flower rooms. And you'll need two rooms. I can produce clones way faster than I can produce seeds.

lol 20/4 is no way in hell cheaper than 18/6 and 12/12.. *Shakes head*

Bro Treps are the FLAVOR!!!!

huge fail on your part....


and I have been drinking..

Didn't you say you're like 45 or sum shit?

 

Alienwidow

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OK actually 10 years ago guys were blowing warehouses in Cali, Colorado and Texas. They were not only mobs and cartels. Cartels grow outdoors in south america and in national forest in the US. I'm not saying the cartels didn't set up shop in Cali and I know for sure that the Russian mafia has their hands in some of the Denver warehouses. But us Americans have doing this shit since the early 90's.

But honestly bro you have not the slightest clue of what you are talking about. Trepenes are what gives the bud flavor. So you say rec user's don't care about flavor? That is by far one of the stupidest comment I've ever seen on this site.

http://www.hightimes.com/read/talking-terpenes

You are literally just talking out your ass.

Please explain to me how dafuq you can make more money from auto's?

You are so smart, smarter than any of these cats doing 1000 lighters, you got that master plan brah:roll:

So smart you offer a cop hash oil..
Lotta people talking outta their asses on this thread huh? Werent you going to find me some real veg times on that 26 oz plant? or post a thread on how to pull that much weight with a five week veg?
 

justugh

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NO!!!

100 days from start to finish for photos.

So you say no need to for two rooms? Well where dafuq do the seeds come from? So lets say you get raped from some breeder for what ever dafuq you pay for seeds?

So let's say you produce your own seeds, on a large scale. You are going to seed the fuck out your flower rooms. And you'll need two rooms. I can produce clones way faster than I can produce seeds.

lol 20/4 is no way in hell cheaper than 18/6 and 12/12.. *Shakes head*

Bro Treps are the FLAVOR!!!!

huge fail on your part....


and I have been drinking..

Didn't you say you're like 45 or sum shit?

odank u need to do more reading .........terepenes are not the flavor .......only a few of them are and they are in the same lvls as the photo ........it is the medical side (if u really want i spend the time going down a list of ones with a flavor or scent to it and the other ones with just body effects .......just know the list is about 26 pages .......listing scent source of and effect on body


u have one set veiw and will not come off it ..........photo done in 100 days a auto is done in 76 seed to cut add 7 and u got sell able before yours is even cut
 

Alienwidow

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NO!!!

100 days from start to finish for photos.

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So that basement is at like 100 days already right? Why do you keep saying 100 days for photos start to finish and you havent even flipped yet at over 100 days? Surely 26 oz of seeded bud is enough? Or are you going to get more than 26 oz off of those plants?
 

.ODanksta.

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Lotta people talking outta their asses on this thread huh? Werent you going to find me some real veg times on that 26 oz plant? or post a thread on how to pull that much weight with a five week veg?
I posted the threads, look at the dates posted..

Welcome to the tree farm and the 14K multi strain run.. It's all ther bro..


My first question for you is whats the biggest size pot you have ever used?

have you ever grown outdoors?

do you use 1000w HPS?


answer these simple questions than we can argue
 

.ODanksta.

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So that basement is at like 100 days already right? Why do you keep saying 100 days for photos start to finish and you havent even flipped yet at over 100 days? Surely 26 oz of seeded bud is enough? Or are you going to get more than 26 oz off of those plants?
Actually my move date was Jan 22 and we didn't start popping seeds until about 2 week later. The dates are still there. But we went from 1 gallon to 3 gallon to 5 gallon. My brother and I had to find an agreement, we decided to work off the same formula as the warehouse. They pull on avg 28lbs from a 12-750DE growpod. The numbers do not lie, I never stated my method was best, I only stated it was better than autos
 

swazifarmer

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Going troll the shit outta this thread

Ok another question why do people call using nutes feeding when it's not feeding at all? Huh?

Why isn't horse meat widely available if it's sooo healthy?
 

.ODanksta.

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@Alienwidow and we actually are 2 weeks into flower. But we are still lacking on the other 3 flower rooms. That is however out of my hands. Lol I keep giving my brother $ for the new equipment because he gets a discount through the warehouse, something along the lines of 30%. But I am not seeing the return on the cash I am giving him.. It's my brother and I couldn't care less. We will be fine.

and tbh all the equipment is mine. But once he gets on his feet I'm outta here. I will be getting my own place. I will be doing raised beds (no-tills). Then I will be able to prove my point.
 

Tankado78

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i skipped eat for 2 months every other day to save up 600 bucks to start my frsit grow ...........u just re invest the money u make for better gear this increases what u can make in that same area.....i started on cfls then moved to T5s then to hids then to led then to led and cobs ........... u need to sit down and run your numbers figure out the base cost for 1 plant in your set up .......then u times that number by 3
1 time to recover your cost
2 times to double up for next grow
3 times for the effort and possible jail time

for me that was 90 bucks so 3 times 90 is 270 i rounded it up i ask 300 a oz .......when it is a buddy or someone 250 ........this way no matter what u make what u need for the next cycle .....once u build up a system got everything u need that is when the cash collects like it does with me ........i use the cash to pay for things my family needs /help out my buddies with something ......or i spend on self like this on a vacation

i fill nitch ........i only need to make 6-8 oz a month for my stead sales ........anything extra is just that ......i wanted to build up a supply here so if i did move my ppl would be covered for a few months while they look for a new hook up ....but 4/20 cleared all that out i have 2 oz when i use to have 26
Definitely awesome! Love the way you got everything down to a science. Guy/Gal after my own heart! I started with CFLs in a 2x3x6 closet, about 8 150w bulbs n a purple 45 gal bin with 4 holes in the top, but only used 2. Now, I graduated to a 4x4x6 grow tent, 2x 210w(true) n I got 6 buckets that I'm doing DWC in. 2 autos, 3 photos, n 1 unknown. My goal is stay in action, or stay with growing, that way I don't hit a dry patch either. I have about 8-10 more seeds on their way. I have a big family to support n 1 income doesn't cut with teenagers n college students. To set up, I borrowed from the wife n let her know that everything given, if done right should pay for itself 1st grow. I figure a total of 800-1000 bucks was spent on this set up. After paying her back, profits if any, will be going right back in for like you said, things that'll increase my yield n things to make a more potent toke! One of my overall goal is to rid those with the crappy product n hopefully network to be able to supply the suppliers. That way it's gone b4 it's grown n I'll have the selective clientele. Love the way you think! I hope once my grow tent is in a good full swing, I can step my game n grow up to achieve what you got going. I salute n my hat goes off to you Justugh!
 

gixxa

Active Member
I'm gonna pull more per square foot than all of you on 19/5 cycle " Fast N Vast & " Big Bud x Northern Lights.
How Do You Like Dem Apples xoxoxo
 

justugh

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Definitely awesome! Love the way you got everything down to a science. Guy/Gal after my own heart! I started with CFLs in a 2x3x6 closet, about 8 150w bulbs n a purple 45 gal bin with 4 holes in the top, but only used 2. Now, I graduated to a 4x4x6 grow tent, 2x 210w(true) n I got 6 buckets that I'm doing DWC in. 2 autos, 3 photos, n 1 unknown. My goal is stay in action, or stay with growing, that way I don't hit a dry patch either. I have about 8-10 more seeds on their way. I have a big family to support n 1 income doesn't cut with teenagers n college students. To set up, I borrowed from the wife n let her know that everything given, if done right should pay for itself 1st grow. I figure a total of 800-1000 bucks was spent on this set up. After paying her back, profits if any, will be going right back in for like you said, things that'll increase my yield n things to make a more potent toke! One of my overall goal is to rid those with the crappy product n hopefully network to be able to supply the suppliers. That way it's gone b4 it's grown n I'll have the selective clientele. Love the way you think! I hope once my grow tent is in a good full swing, I can step my game n grow up to achieve what you got going. I salute n my hat goes off to you Justugh!

to help u make your goal

the plants u are talking about are they in single bucket system or are u doing a RDWC system

if it is RDWC u should increase the amount of bloom u are offering it as the auto plants are heavy feeders ....they will not be on the same feed timing as the photo
 

.ODanksta.

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Going troll the shit outta this thread

Ok another question why do people call using nutes feeding when it's not feeding at all? Huh?

Why isn't horse meat widely available if it's sooo healthy?
In soil you feed the roots not the plants, with salt based nutes you supply the plants with with 17 elements they need to thrive. You should try living off water and bread only.. Let me know how it works out for you ;)

and the horse meat aka (my cock) ....
I think sperm has plenty of protein, so that's a start.
 

justugh

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I'm gonna pull more per square foot than all of you on 19/5 cycle " Fast N Vast & " Big Bud x Northern Lights.
How Do You Like Dem Apples xoxoxo
i already beat u
with a blue mammoth i did a full 4x4x6 tent ......i had to cut the main cola 2 times from it growing into the light

it sent me and 3 buddies to denver for 4/20 for the first rec cannabis cup
 

.ODanksta.

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i already beat u
with a blue mammoth i did a full 4x4x6 tent ......i had to cut the main cola 2 times from it growing into the light

it sent me and 3 buddies to denver for 4/20 for the first rec cannabis cup
lol the main cola.. My grow gangbangs your grow..
 
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