EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

Fogdog

Fogdog

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ChesusRice said:
You're hoping Sanders Naderz the democrats again
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It would be interesting to see what happens if he did. Ralph Nader has some interesting things to say about his experience as an independent candidate. Democratic party operatives conducted their own campaign of dirty tricks and legal maneuvers with the sole objective of bleeding Nader's campaign funds. Not for any real reason, just because.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/03/25/ralph-nader-why-bernie-sanders-was-right-to-run-as-a-democrat/

Just appearing on the ballot is a challenge for independent candidates. While any Democrat or Republican who wins their party’s nomination is guaranteed a place on general-election ballots nationwide, smaller parties must, in many states, petition election officials to be listed. And that is a delicate process, easy for the major parties to disrupt. Their operatives have a number of tools at their disposal to knock third-party candidates off the ballot, render their campaigns broke, and harass and ostracize them.

here is a good example:
Democrats falsely accused my campaign of fraud in state after state. In Pennsylvania, theyforced us off the ballot after challenging more than 30,000 signatures on spurious technical grounds. My running mate, Peter Camejo, and I were ordered to pay more than $81,000 in litigation costs the plaintiffs, a group of Democratic voters, said they incurred. In an effort to collect, their law firm, Reed Smith ,which the DNC also hired in that cycle, froze my personal accounts at several banks for eight years. A criminal prosecution by the state attorney general later revealed that Pennsylvania House Democrats had, illegally at taxpayer expense, prepared the complaints against our campaign, and several people were convicted of related felonies. A federal court in Pennsylvania ultimately struck down the state law used against me that had led to the order that I pay the litigation costs. But Reed Smith was still allowed to keep $34,000 it withdrew from my accounts, because state courts wouldn’t let me present evidence that could have permitted me to recover the money.

I'd be glad to vote for Independent Bernie. It would be a ballsy move by him if he decided to do so.
 
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ChesusRice

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Fogdog said:
It would be interesting to see what happens if he did. Ralph Nader has some interesting things to say about his experience as an independent candidate. Democratic party operatives conducted their own campaign of dirty tricks and legal maneuvers with the sole objective of bleeding Nader's campaign funds. Not for any real reason, just because.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/03/25/ralph-nader-why-bernie-sanders-was-right-to-run-as-a-democrat/

Just appearing on the ballot is a challenge for independent candidates. While any Democrat or Republican who wins their party’s nomination is guaranteed a place on general-election ballots nationwide, smaller parties must, in many states, petition election officials to be listed. And that is a delicate process, easy for the major parties to disrupt. Their operatives have a number of tools at their disposal to knock third-party candidates off the ballot, render their campaigns broke, and harass and ostracize them.

here is a good example:
Democrats falsely accused my campaign of fraud in state after state. In Pennsylvania, theyforced us off the ballot after challenging more than 30,000 signatures on spurious technical grounds. My running mate, Peter Camejo, and I were ordered to pay more than $81,000 in litigation costs the plaintiffs, a group of Democratic voters, said they incurred. In an effort to collect, their law firm, Reed Smith ,which the DNC also hired in that cycle, froze my personal accounts at several banks for eight years. A criminal prosecution by the state attorney general later revealed that Pennsylvania House Democrats had, illegally at taxpayer expense, prepared the complaints against our campaign, and several people were convicted of related felonies. A federal court in Pennsylvania ultimately struck down the state law used against me that had led to the order that I pay the litigation costs. But Reed Smith was still allowed to keep $34,000 it withdrew from my accounts, because state courts wouldn’t let me present evidence that could have permitted me to recover the money.

I'd be glad to vote for Independent Bernie. It would be a ballsy move by him if he decided to do so.
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Thanks to Nader we got 8 years of Bush.
Is Nader your hero?
 
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ChesusRice

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Padawanbater2 said:
I didn't ask you who you thought was going to win, I asked you who you thought would be better for America? Say we could run both administrations, at the end of a 4 year term, based on their policy positions, which administration do you think would best serve the American people?
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Clinton
 
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