EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

Fogdog

Fogdog

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ChesusRice said:
Nader bled how many votes?
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The people who voted for Nader couldn't support Gore. It was Gore's election to win but the blabbermouth couldn't shut up and eventually turned people off. That said, Florida can't run an honest election if it wanted to. And the supreme court was in the the GOP's pocket. In spite of all of that, Gore would have turned the election into a land slide if he weren't such a douche.

The Democratic Party has a very real problem in that it is a corrupt shell of what used to be the party of the people -- and too many formerly loyal party members are smart enough to know it. Now it's just Republican party 2.0. A vote for Hillary is a vote for more war and more Wall Street. The Democrats are really fucking up by setting up Hillary as the next prez and ignoring the popular vote that would unite this country. Independents, liberal Democrats and disillusioned Republicans all prefer Bernie. But the party operatives at the direction of Wall Street are setting Hillary up as the next Democratic party nominee.

It's quite likely that Hillary is going to do to the Democrats what Bush II did to the GOP. Bush ended the conservative movement and Hillary will signal the death knell of the liberal movement. We'll have more than two parties after all this is over.
 
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ChesusRice

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Fogdog said:
The people who voted for Nader couldn't support Gore. It was Gore's election to win but the blabbermouth couldn't shut up and eventually turned people off. That said, Florida can't run an honest election if it wanted to. And the supreme court was in the the GOP's pocket. In spite of all of that, Gore would have turned the election into a land slide if he weren't such a douche.

The Democratic Party has a very real problem in that it is a corrupt shell of what used to be the party of the people -- and too many formerly loyal party members are smart enough to know it. Now it's just Republican party 2.0. A vote for Hillary is a vote for more war and more Wall Street. The Democrats are really fucking up by setting up Hillary as the next prez and ignoring the popular vote that would unite this country. Independents, liberal Democrats and disillusioned Republicans all prefer Bernie. But the party operatives at the direction of Wall Street are setting Hillary up as the next Democratic party nominee.

It's quite likely that Hillary is going to do to the Democrats what Bush II did to the GOP. Bush ended the conservative movement and Hillary will signal the death knell of the liberal movement. We'll have more than two parties after all this is over.
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OR
Clinton could have 90% of the same views as Sanders and want universal healthcare.
But wtf Sanders won't win so we might as well let Cruz into office.
Am I hearing you right?
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
The people who voted for Nader couldn't support Gore. It was Gore's election to win but the blabbermouth couldn't shut up and eventually turned people off. That said, Florida can't run an honest election if it wanted to. And the supreme court was in the the GOP's pocket. In spite of all of that, Gore would have turned the election into a land slide if he weren't such a douche.

The Democratic Party has a very real problem in that it is a corrupt shell of what used to be the party of the people -- and too many formerly loyal party members are smart enough to know it. Now it's just Republican party 2.0. A vote for Hillary is a vote for more war and more Wall Street. The Democrats are really fucking up by setting up Hillary as the next prez and ignoring the popular vote that would unite this country. Independents, liberal Democrats and disillusioned Republicans all prefer Bernie. But the party operatives at the direction of Wall Street are setting Hillary up as the next Democratic party nominee.

It's quite likely that Hillary is going to do to the Democrats what Bush II did to the GOP. Bush ended the conservative movement and Hillary will signal the death knell of the liberal movement. We'll have more than two parties after all this is over.
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ignoring the popular vote ? The popular vote is still Hillary. WAKE UP
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
It would be interesting to see what happens if he did. Ralph Nader has some interesting things to say about his experience as an independent candidate. Democratic party operatives conducted their own campaign of dirty tricks and legal maneuvers with the sole objective of bleeding Nader's campaign funds. Not for any real reason, just because.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/03/25/ralph-nader-why-bernie-sanders-was-right-to-run-as-a-democrat/

Just appearing on the ballot is a challenge for independent candidates. While any Democrat or Republican who wins their party’s nomination is guaranteed a place on general-election ballots nationwide, smaller parties must, in many states, petition election officials to be listed. And that is a delicate process, easy for the major parties to disrupt. Their operatives have a number of tools at their disposal to knock third-party candidates off the ballot, render their campaigns broke, and harass and ostracize them.

here is a good example:
Democrats falsely accused my campaign of fraud in state after state. In Pennsylvania, theyforced us off the ballot after challenging more than 30,000 signatures on spurious technical grounds. My running mate, Peter Camejo, and I were ordered to pay more than $81,000 in litigation costs the plaintiffs, a group of Democratic voters, said they incurred. In an effort to collect, their law firm, Reed Smith ,which the DNC also hired in that cycle, froze my personal accounts at several banks for eight years. A criminal prosecution by the state attorney general later revealed that Pennsylvania House Democrats had, illegally at taxpayer expense, prepared the complaints against our campaign, and several people were convicted of related felonies. A federal court in Pennsylvania ultimately struck down the state law used against me that had led to the order that I pay the litigation costs. But Reed Smith was still allowed to keep $34,000 it withdrew from my accounts, because state courts wouldn’t let me present evidence that could have permitted me to recover the money.

I'd be glad to vote for Independent Bernie. It would be a ballsy move by him if he decided to do so.
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:clap:

It's his path to victory..he knows how to play the game better than any of those cunts running.
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
The people who voted for Nader couldn't support Gore. It was Gore's election to win but the blabbermouth couldn't shut up and eventually turned people off. That said, Florida can't run an honest election if it wanted to. And the supreme court was in the the GOP's pocket. In spite of all of that, Gore would have turned the election into a land slide if he weren't such a douche.

The Democratic Party has a very real problem in that it is a corrupt shell of what used to be the party of the people -- and too many formerly loyal party members are smart enough to know it. Now it's just Republican party 2.0. A vote for Hillary is a vote for more war and more Wall Street. The Democrats are really fucking up by setting up Hillary as the next prez and ignoring the popular vote that would unite this country. Independents, liberal Democrats and disillusioned Republicans all prefer Bernie. But the party operatives at the direction of Wall Street are setting Hillary up as the next Democratic party nominee.

It's quite likely that Hillary is going to do to the Democrats what Bush II did to the GOP. Bush ended the conservative movement and Hillary will signal the death knell of the liberal movement. We'll have more than two parties after all this is over.
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Nice, nice post:clap:
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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londonfog said:
ignoring the popular vote ? The popular vote is still Hillary. WAKE UP
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Clinton won the majority vote of the Democratic Party to be their presidential candidate this fall. I don't think she will garner anywhere near the majority of the voting-eligible population in the fall. I think the election between Trump and Clinton will be a squeaker with a lot of people sitting on the sidelines.

If you look at polls comparing the different candidates, Sanders wins by the largest proportion than anybody. Its not an election, true, but it seems to me that Sanders is the most popular candidate out there.

The Democratic party machine selected Hillary, as it did when it picked Gore and then Kerry. We all know how that went. Obama beat the machine and won by a landslide. Twice. Tell me how well the Democratic party machine picks winning candidates.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
Clinton won the majority vote of the Democratic Party to be their presidential candidate this fall. I don't think she will garner anywhere near the majority of the voting-eligible population in the fall. I think the election between Trump and Clinton will be a squeaker with a lot of people sitting on the sidelines.

If you look at polls comparing the different candidates, Sanders wins by the largest proportion than anybody. Its not an election, true, but it seems to me that Sanders is the most popular candidate out there.

The Democratic party machine selected Hillary, as it did when it picked Gore and then Kerry. We all know how that went. Obama beat the machine and won by a landslide. Twice. Tell me how well the Democratic party machine picks winning candidates.
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If I look at the polls? Sorry guy polls are not what counts. Maybe that's the problem you put way too much stock in polls. Sound like the Donald.
I look at the election results. You should too
 
londonfog

londonfog

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schuylaar said:
Not really. Not when it doesn't include those who were disenfranchised. Derp.

And THAT number IS in the MILLIONS..

Why do you want this cunt so badly?
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no proof in that number. Something that is said to make you Bernie folk feel good...but I still like you guys.
If Bernie was winning I would vote for him. He is not
 
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ky man

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BURNIE I think would make a good president but he don't stand a chance in hell to win,neather dos cruz..the rase layes between TRUMP AND THE BITCH,SO WHO WILL YOU VOTE FOR??I will vote TRUMP and be proud I did for my children and grand children don't need that bitch in the white house to sell the American people out as her and her husband has did in the past.hellbitch should be in prison or shot for treason..ky
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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londonfog said:
If I look at the polls? Sorry guy polls are not what counts. Maybe that's the problem you put way too much stock in polls. Sound like the Donald.
I look at the election results. You should too
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Yes you are right the polls are one thing and an election is another.

Polls show Bernie has the most favorable rating among the three (Hill, T and Brn), also shows Bernie beating Trump by a lot higher number than Hill Pill. Way beyond margins of error. The poll is about an open election, not one controlled by the DNC.

So, let me ask then. When driving do you look forward and decide what to do according to what's up ahead, or do you close eyes and drive forward until you hit something?
 
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