4 autos in coco coir / Slow Growth

[testmail]

I think I messed it up, and I am afraid these are going to be tiny and all the electricity and money wasted. Being they are autos I am afraid I messed up their lifecycle and spent too much time in the seedling stage, could not get through to the next level.

as the days pass by I dont see any growth.
It has been 3 days since I last watered them and some still look moist, not too dry.
They have been on a 24 hour constant light schedule on 23w 6500k cfl for each. And for the last 2 days I give them 4 hours of darkness, thinking this might resolve the problem.

I havent given any nutes to them, I dont know if I should? My coco coir is biobizz coco mix, I dont think it has any nutes in it . Could that be the reason?

I have voodoo juice for roots but I am not sure if it would be good at this stage, seeing that they are very tiny. The second set of leaves are barely there :/ Would this burn them ?

Should I put them under 400w MH instead of 23w cfl? sounds like a very bad idea as they are very small now but I feel desperate to do something even if it is wrong.

I dont know what to do, I was afraid to take them out and transplant to smaller pots, thought it was too risky, going back to smaller and going back to bigger pots again. I dont know what I am missing but this is really slow growth, I have grown bagseeds in soil ,this is the first time I grow in coco , and bagseeds in soil were 3-4 times growing faster than these. I am sure I am missing something, I hope you guys can show me the right way.

here please look at the pics
4 days after sprout
http://imgur.com/a/NZmmZ
8 days after sprout
http://imgur.com/a/moJi6
11 days after sprout
http://imgur.com/a/ilMWM

 

[420roofer]

I just grew two magnum by buddah seeds. They were stuck at seedling size for about 5 to 6 weeks. When all my photo plants started to flower under 12/12 lighting, the autos decided to do something. One flowered for 6 weeks and was done, one flowered about 8weeks and finished. Very strange. I was fixing to give up on them and noticed they finally started growing

 

[testmail]

I just grew two magnum by buddah seeds. They were stuck at seedling size for about 5 to 6 weeks. When all my photo plants started to flower under 12/12 lighting, the autos decided to do something. One flowered for 6 weeks and was done, one flowered about 8weeks and finished. Very strange. I was fixing to give up on them and noticed they finally started growing

Thank you for your response, do you have any pics of them when they were stunted?
and when they grew up and what size they grew up to be? was the final yield acceptable?

 

[420roofer]

I only got one in one picture. They weren't photo worthy really. The small one in the white 5 gallon bucket is the one that finished after 6 weeks of flower. The other i just trimmed last weekend and haven't taken pics of. Probably got 5 grams off one and 10 off the other. Really though, for just a few weeks longer of veg time you can get bigger plants with less power consumption.

 

[Green&mean45]

Put them under the 400mh asap and feed them coco has no nutrients

 

[Green&mean45]

After the second set of leaves put under 400mh they grow a lot quicker and keep light about 24" above and not a big pot if too big the roots not big enough to drink up the water and is harder on them good luck.
Green&mean

 

[green_gorilla]

After the second set of leaves put under 400mh they grow a lot quicker and keep light about 24" above and not a big pot if too big the roots not big enough to drink up the water and is harder on them good luck.
Green&mean

Yes metal halide, light nutes.
From everything I read, autos do much better with MH/Hps than cfls. also transplanting is not the best idea due to hermie/stunting. I would feed light as ruderalis don't require as much nutes as sativa/indica. Might want to do a ph check also for a clear mind. Poor your water through, and check the runoff.
Good luck she will come back!! I had a auto stretch, then stunt for like 2 weeks, and do NOTHING at all. Raised the ph, dropped the nutes a little and bam came back to life.

 

[Billygreen]

I'm no expert but auto flowers don't transplant well at all . I've heard from many sources not to transplant them at all but instead put them in a pot big enough to stay in for complete life cycle

 

[stonerKoala]

hey bro any news on these autos and can you tell me where you bought them?

Spoiler: Ignore

I wonder because i did same when i first start growing indoors. bought same biobiz coco mix ( didnt know its coco coir or what is coco, tought it is soil lol) because it was in organics section on site which i buy all grow things.
I bought 4 blue dream and 4 ak 48 auto seeds from nirvana shop. all auto. They all died/stunt because i didnt' know i had to flush before use it. Because It was moist. Type it on package to flush , if you water it with salt included things before packaging to sell it, am i right? Any newbie couldnt figure it out since it came moist first. All my seedlings death/stunt cuz of salt toxicity. I started and waste my 2 months. ( Why they arent growing fast? why first leaves turning yellow why why why etc. I didnt know they are stunted ant tought they will start growing fast afte r coupple weeks but nope. fuck that shit.) now i have to move my place and wasted all this time. I really wanna sue bibobizz for selling this product with lack of info on package . Its okay for experinced growers. Whom know what is coco or hydroponics... But As a first time grower i had no idea i am buying coconot's shells's compost . What the fock is that by the way, realy I tought ''wtf'' when i learned. Its normal. If you didnt grow anything in anthing,,,, its normal to think every plant grows in soil . we all see/know that in nature.

Spoiler: whatever

Whatever, I learned this shit in hardway . I wasted 2-3 months. I wish i didnt. because i realy had need to grow at least 1 pound of good bud to sell for to start a good run of grow with hps and proper good grow things. Cuz i am a long time smoker and I fucked up at HighSchool (spend all money of my parent on weed. ) now, broke and cant afford to buy GREEN GOLD in this shtty country) I am not a hater but tell me what would you do if avarage ppl(salary of %60 of pop) gain 1000 US or [what currency you earn] and 1 ounce of weed is 400 US or [what currency you earn in your country].

These are my stunted autos, I share it for other newbies whom decided to do autos(fuck that btw) normal feminised seeds with 12/12 from seed are way better than autos for starting to grow in my opinion( if you in rush to grow them)

Btw, Yours look waqy better than mines They might start grow fast... Whats your temp max and min. I am asking because I learned my new regular seedlings growing slow because of high temps.

 

[testmail]

hey bro any news on these autos and can you tell me where you bought them?

Spoiler: Ignore

I wonder because i did same when i first start growing indoors. bought same biobiz coco mix ( didnt know its coco coir or what is coco, tought it is soil lol) because it was in organics section on site which i buy all grow things.
I bought 4 blue dream and 4 ak 48 auto seeds from nirvana shop. all auto. They all died/stunt because i didnt' know i had to flush before use it. Because It was moist. Type it on package to flush , if you water it with salt included things before packaging to sell it, am i right? Any newbie couldnt figure it out since it came moist first. All my seedlings death/stunt cuz of salt toxicity. I started and waste my 2 months. ( Why they arent growing fast? why first leaves turning yellow why why why etc. I didnt know they are stunted ant tought they will start growing fast afte r coupple weeks but nope. fuck that shit.) now i have to move my place and wasted all this time. I really wanna sue bibobizz for selling this product with lack of info on package . Its okay for experinced growers. Whom know what is coco or hydroponics... But As a first time grower i had no idea i am buying coconot's shells's compost . What the fock is that by the way, realy I tought ''wtf'' when i learned. Its normal. If you didnt grow anything in anthing,,,, its normal to think every plant grows in soil . we all see/know that in nature.

Spoiler: whatever

Whatever, I learned this shit in hardway . I wasted 2-3 months. I wish i didnt. because i realy had need to grow at least 1 pound of good bud to sell for to start a good run of grow with hps and proper good grow things. Cuz i am a long time smoker and I fucked up at HighSchool (spend all money of my parent on weed. ) now, broke and cant afford to buy GREEN GOLD in this shtty country) I am not a hater but tell me what would you do if avarage ppl(salary of %60 of pop) gain 1000 US or [what currency you earn] and 1 ounce of weed is 400 US or [what currency you earn in your country].

These are my stunted autos, I share it for other newbies whom decided to do autos(fuck that btw) normal feminised seeds with 12/12 from seed are way better than autos for starting to grow in my opinion( if you in rush to grow them)

Btw, Yours look waqy better than mines They might start grow fast... Whats your temp max and min. I am asking because I learned my new regular seedlings growing slow because of high temps.

the names you gave them really made my day.
mine are doing really good.
what are your temps ?

did you give them any nutes?
let me know

 

[stonerKoala]

the names you gave them really made my day.
mine are doing really good.
what are your temps ?

did you give them any nutes?
let me know

haha
so you know my language?

Temps are mostly 85-95F on day time. but on hot days, reach 105s sometimes. and night time its 75-85F. I dont have cooling system(just 2 pc fans blowing over them and bulbs(I put my thermometer on top of soil)) and my grow box open front . near the only window in room. I keep door open for stream. If window and door close it would reach 120F .

1 week After I took those pics. I gave up on them and put them on windowside(they got 6hours of sunlight max.) there. Didnt feed, only phed water. It took too long for them to drink in a 3lt pot.

I tossed Gonca and Melahat.
Only Yonca left and this is what she looks like now. 7weeks old total. I dont expect anything from it actualy. (Maybe a bowl or two ?) I Keep her for investigation. Most of lower leaves turned yellow and fall. So i fed him last time. With GHE FloraTrio. It turning green since then.

 

[testmail]

Yes i am familiar with the language
Those temps are really high, for seedling you should be looking for 20-30 degrees,even in 26-27 degrees they may stress out.over 30 is unacceptable.
You are growing in coco right?
Would be better if you invest in some coco nutes. Ghe trio is good but you need to supplement with cal mag.if you use coco specific nutes ,no need for cal mag most of the time.
A shame that the other 2 went to the garbage bin.
Where did you buy them from?
Can you send the pictures of your cabinet?

 

[stonerKoala]

Where did you buy them from?

I bought them from NirvanaShop.

Can you send the pictures of your cabinet?

Spoiler: pics

Those temps are really high, for seedling you should be looking for 20-30 degrees,even in 26-27 degrees they may stress out.over 30 is unacceptable.

Yea, because of that i am thinking to try 12/12 from seed with my freebie seeds which recently sporuted and couple days old. Heat wouldnt be that much if the lights turn off at daytime. I Just fixed my open front cabinet to open both sides. Its middle on the room near the window with open space. Its 28 Degrees now (thermometer is on one of pot you can see in the picture. . Dont know daytime temps yet.

 

[testmail]

28 degrees is the nighttime temp?

i really wouldnt advise you to start now looking at the temps you are giving.but you already sprouted so there is no going back it seems

Summer is near and heat would be much worse, if they are even autos you have 3months till harvest and that would be first week of August.

If you can not control the temps the rest of the grow fails itself most of the time.

Sorry to break it to you
But you know they say
The dearest says the bitter truth

 

[testmail]

the latest pictures of the grow, ON sunday I am starting to flush.
here are the pictures , not so much in order but the first is amnesia haze auto
the last two with white hairs is royal dwarf. fattening up , alil bit late but will be harvesting anyways. Dont have any spare room to dry them so everyone has to go down at the same time