Comparing two setups

md2of2

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Your light on your vert set up has nothing in front or beind it, only side to side. Huge waste of light imo. In horizontal you have have 3ftx6ft= 18sqft canopy. your vert setup would actually have 3ftx3ft=9sqft x4= 36sqft. So IMO you should probably brush up on your math skills before attempting to grow weed.
 

md2of2

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I'm sorry maybe I jumped the gun on that one. It could be that your understanding of the definition of canopy is wrong. Also the small details do matter. Give me your opinion A+B=C, A=1. You can't because I left out the to much info, there are an infinite amount of correct opinions. None may satisfy me because I didn't tell you that C=1. Bottom line people value their opinions, some border on beliefs. If you ask an opinion of someone you should be willing to give them as much info as you have so they may give your their honest opinion, if your not willing to do that then go elsewhere. My father gave some of the best advice ever, "Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer".
 

Craig1969SS

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Asking questions here is a spring board for dickheads to impart their smart remarks without answering anything, especially in the vert section. Been where u are and got the same bullshit back.....a simple question gets your wasting light! Your wasting light! You idiot you didn't give us enough information about your setup..when the drawing is front and center while 10 other tools are happy to pile on with everything except an opinion to your question. Screw these idiots man, everything is negative here especially when the bare bulb "vertical gods" pipe in and lay down the law like they somehow trademarked it.
 

Craig1969SS

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I'm sorry maybe I jumped the gun on that one. It could be that your understanding of the definition of canopy is wrong. Also the small details do matter. Give me your opinion A+B=C, A=1. You can't because I left out the to much info, there are an infinite amount of correct opinions. None may satisfy me because I didn't tell you that C=1. Bottom line people value their opinions, some border on beliefs. If you ask an opinion of someone you should be willing to give them as much info as you have so they may give your their honest opinion, if your not willing to do that then go elsewhere. My father gave some of the best advice ever, "Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer".
Your full of yourself that's the real answer
 

kiwipaulie

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Asking questions here is a spring board for dickheads to impart their smart remarks without answering anything, especially in the vert section. Been where u are and got the same bullshit back.....a simple question gets your wasting light! Your wasting light! You idiot you didn't give us enough information about your setup..when the drawing is front and center while 10 other tools are happy to pile on with everything except an opinion to your question. Screw these idiots man, everything is negative here especially when the bare bulb "vertical gods" pipe in and lay down the law like they somehow trademarked it.
Got your period? I have found the guys in vert to be most helpful all the time and have helped me hugely.
 

Flowki

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Your light on your vert set up has nothing in front or beind it, only side to side. Huge waste of light imo. In horizontal you have have 3ftx6ft= 18sqft canopy. your vert setup would actually have 3ftx3ft=9sqft x4= 36sqft. So IMO you should probably brush up on your math skills before attempting to grow weed.
Yes you are right, I made the mistake of calculating in 2d but could not edit the post, nobody seemed to notice though, thnx for that ^^. The difference in either case was double the canopy size.

Regardless of ''wasting light'' on either side (one side is a wall) does more canopy area in that ''particular'' comparison = more yield than smaller canopy in a lst horizontal. I'm asking this on the chance that even in vert growing the lower branches of a plant possibly don't yield as much due to some rule of nature?. Getting back to my question of does more canopy area in vert (in that setup) = more yield over the other horizontal setup.
 

md2of2

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Asking questions here is a spring board for dickheads to impart their smart remarks without answering anything, especially in the vert section. Been where u are and got the same bullshit back.....a simple question gets your wasting light! Your wasting light! You idiot you didn't give us enough information about your setup..when the drawing is front and center while 10 other tools are happy to pile on with everything except an opinion to your question. Screw these idiots man, everything is negative here especially when the bare bulb "vertical gods" pipe in and lay down the law like they somehow trademarked it.
Dude, he didn't ask your opinion of me. What's your answer?
 

Craig1969SS

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Use the 2:4:2 set up and waste whatever you want. Plants don't need 18hrs of blazing light everyday to thrive nor 12 to bloom for that matter. Set it up and get it going. You'll soon realize any room will morph into a different beast almost d immediately, you'll change it up as you grow to suit the current needs. Screw the light wasting, unless you got 8 plants circled.
 

jacksthc

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I would like opinions if this vert setup would be better than the standard horizontal setup shown. Please leave out comparison to the circular vert layouts and focus on these two shown.



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The above vert setup technically has surface area of 12sqF






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This is the horizontal layout covering 6sqr foot of canopy.

The vert setup takes up some 3foot more floor space in length but it allows an extra foot in plant height while also standing to double the light coverage. Or is this wrong.
you have a bad attitude but the vertical setup looks good, need to paint the walls white so it reflects the light back on the plants and i would use 6 plants and hang 600w hps lights, as long as you have good airflow and keep the room cool you should pull a good yield

i would also top the plants a few times and flower them off when there 12" high so they grow 2ft high (3ft including the pot)

not saying its easy to do but i am sure it can be done, paint all the walls ceiling with white Matt paint to reflect it back on the plants
 

Flowki

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you have a bad attitude but the vertical setup looks good, need to paint the walls white so it reflects the light back on the plants and i would use 6 plants and hang 600w hps lights, as long as you have good airflow and keep the room cool you should pull a good yield

i would also top the plants a few times and flower them off when there 12" high so they grow 2ft high (3ft including the pot)

not saying its easy to do but i am sure it can be done, paint all the walls ceiling with white Matt paint to reflect it back on the plants
At what point during the unrelated, condescending or unprovoked hostility was I allowed to retaliate without being labeled a bad egg ;[. The first responses were deleted so perhaps it didn't look as prominent in them setting the tone. Not intending to fuel the fire but it's a mob mentality that grates on me. You somewhat avoided that so thank you.

The rest of your advice sounds good. Each pot would have it's own separate netting (basically two bamboo per pot + 1.5f horizontals with netting spread across it). So they can be portable while also able to be flat scroged across a 3x3 surface once side by side.

I do want to ask another question, hopefully with a direct answer this time ;p. Can you manipulate the vertical top end growth of the plant by light height?.
 

mr sunshine

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At what point during the unrelated, condescending or unprovoked hostility was I allowed to retaliate without being labeled a bad egg ;[. The first responses were deleted so perhaps it didn't look as prominent in them setting the tone. Not intending to fuel the fire but it's a mob mentality that grates on me. You somewhat avoided that so thank you.

The rest of your advice sounds good. Each pot would have it's own separate netting (basically two bamboo per pot + 1.5f horizontals with netting spread across it). So they can be portable while also able to be flat scroged across a 3x3 surface once side by side.

I do want to ask another question, hopefully with a direct answer this time ;p. Can you manipulate the vertical top end growth of the plant by light height?.
Yes.
 

jacksthc

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At what point during the unrelated, condescending or unprovoked hostility was I allowed to retaliate without being labeled a bad egg ;[. The first responses were deleted so perhaps it didn't look as prominent in them setting the tone. Not intending to fuel the fire but it's a mob mentality that grates on me. You somewhat avoided that so thank you.

The rest of your advice sounds good. Each pot would have it's own separate netting (basically two bamboo per pot + 1.5f horizontals with netting spread across it). So they can be portable while also able to be flat scroged across a 3x3 surface once side by side.

I do want to ask another question, hopefully with a direct answer this time ;p. Can you manipulate the vertical top end growth of the plant by light height?.
yes weed does grow towards the light but you need to train the plants like this https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-main-lining-thread.542308/ with 16 tops on each plant, the plant will grow short as the plant has so many tops(15-22") and I would forget about the screen, use plants supports so you can tie the tops down if you need to with garden wire, after a few crops you can hit really good yields with this setup, would be a good to have a veg area as well, so you can have plant in veg and flower, then you could pull a good yield every 2 mouths :)
 
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