iHearAll
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@DonBrennon give this thread something unique. A recipe of sorts.
From scratch only! No premixed bottles of "stuff"
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iHearAll
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Probably not, i use the grains right after the water has boiled the sugars out. I add molasses but i imagine the grains have some heavy amount of digestible sugars leftover cuz that stuff booms large white fuzz.
haha if i used a yeast cake from a carboy filtration id have a solid culture medium for lactobacillus. I remember reading that yeast and lacto work in symbiosis.
Side note, im going to study up with Kahn Academy on some micro and anything else relevent.
DonBrennon
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I haven't got any unique recipes, but I like theunconventionalfarmer's recipes. Especially the lacto serum, fpe, ffj and fish hydrolysate.....all so simple to make and by far better products than any hydro store are selling. I'm making various bim's this summer, just need to nail my method down.
iHearAll
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Yea just be consistent in your ingredient ratios and everything can he predictable when mixing multiple fertilizers. Fermented extracts can burn your plants. Veggies, trees, and cannabis. Alot of people write how they can overdose with organics amd not have to answer for it, but that's just not the case with these methods.
DonBrennon
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I haven't had any issues with the ferments, but i do only use them very sparingly.
I did make the cal phos and used it to foliar, that was a mistake i won't repeat, fried every single leaf
iHearAll
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Yep, i use that diluted 1:100 by volume on adults only and not in late flower of course. It'll burn autos at that ratio and tbh should be diluted even to 1:250ish for foliar sprays. Im not too fond of using fertilizers in my foliar sprays, just EMe, fpe, and molasses
iHearAll
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Fermented carrot pulp.
Root crops are great sources for NPK and trace elements.
The mixture is a lb of carrot pulp, 100mL EMextended 100mL molasses, enough water to cover the carrot. Ferment for two weeks. Strain, feed the solids to livestock, and use liquids @ 1:100 foliar or 1:50 soil drench. This stuff isn't going to burn anybodies plants if used as a soil drench but will improve brix %, will supply a few good looking trace element, and have a fair amount of K maybe .5-0-1 if i had to guess.
Nutrition Facts
Carrots
Amount Per 1 medium (61 g)
Calories 25
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.1 g 0%
Saturated fat 0 g 0%
Polyunsaturated fat 0.1 g
Monounsaturated fat 0 g
Trans fat 0 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 42 mg 1%
Potassium 195 mg 5%
Total Carbohydrate 6 g 2%
Dietary fiber 1.7 g 6%
Sugar 2.9 g
Protein 0.6 g 1%
Vitamin A 203% Vitamin C 6%
Calcium 2% Iron 1%
Vitamin D 0% Vitamin B-6 5%
Vitamin B-12 0% Magnesium 1%
Root crops are great sources for NPK and trace elements.
The mixture is a lb of carrot pulp, 100mL EMextended 100mL molasses, enough water to cover the carrot. Ferment for two weeks. Strain, feed the solids to livestock, and use liquids @ 1:100 foliar or 1:50 soil drench. This stuff isn't going to burn anybodies plants if used as a soil drench but will improve brix %, will supply a few good looking trace element, and have a fair amount of K maybe .5-0-1 if i had to guess.
Nutrition Facts
Carrots
Amount Per 1 medium (61 g)
Calories 25
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.1 g 0%
Saturated fat 0 g 0%
Polyunsaturated fat 0.1 g
Monounsaturated fat 0 g
Trans fat 0 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 42 mg 1%
Potassium 195 mg 5%
Total Carbohydrate 6 g 2%
Dietary fiber 1.7 g 6%
Sugar 2.9 g
Protein 0.6 g 1%
Vitamin A 203% Vitamin C 6%
Calcium 2% Iron 1%
Vitamin D 0% Vitamin B-6 5%
Vitamin B-12 0% Magnesium 1%
iHearAll
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SCOBY mushroom or better known as kombucha. This is typically a carbonated beverage that houses billions of microorganisms. I encourage you to follow a drinkable kombucha recipe to become familiar with this organism.
For this bit, I'm under the impression that many cannabis growers use lactoserum which as the name suggests cultivates lactobacilli.
This gelatinous colony of bacteria will help you culture the following strains,
This will be a slightly more complicated brew of bacteria but can be used to control powdery mildew as reported by some, has a symbiotic relationship with your inferior human digestive track, and will help the well-being of your environment. Can be diluted and sprayed similar to every other inoculation mentioned previously, at least 1:100-250 by volume. For PM i suggest starting there and increasing. Spray at night and dilute more during flower.
My pic is a dehydrated SCOBY from a large batch i did a few months back. I dehydrated it for a month @80 degrees F and a week ago i fed it around 2 cups of sterile black tea, 1/4 cup of white sugar, and 1/4 cup of vinegar to brong the pH down but once the SCOBY is alive a new batch should not contain vinegar from my experience. Rather it should get a 1/4cup of active kambucha tea from either the previous batch or from the store. Just read the link i provided if you care. The dead scoby is suspended in the tea and the baby is growing on the surface. The local pond will get the dead colony in the next week and I'll cultivate the young into many more offspring.
And here are some very healthy looking SCOBY i found on google.
For this bit, I'm under the impression that many cannabis growers use lactoserum which as the name suggests cultivates lactobacilli.
This gelatinous colony of bacteria will help you culture the following strains,
- Acetobacter [2] is an aerobic (requiring oxygen) bacteria strain that produces acetic acid and gluconic acid. It is always found in kombucha. Acetobacter strains also build the scoby mushroom. Acetobacter xylinoides and acetobacter ketogenum are two strains that you might find in kombucha.
- Saccharomyces [2] includes a number of yeast strains that produce alcohol and are the most common types of yeast found in kombucha. They can be aerobic or anaerobic (requires an oxygen-free environment). They include Saccharomycodes ludwigii, Saccharomycodes apiculatus, Schizosaccharomyces pombe, Zygosaccharomyes, and Saccharomyces cerevisiae.
- Brettanomyces [2] is another type of yeast strain, either aerobic or anaerobic, that are commonly found in kombucha and produce alcohol or acetic acid.
- Lactobacillus [2]: A type of aerobic bacteria that is sometimes, but not always, found in kombucha. It produces lactic acid and slime.
- Pediococcus [2]: These anaerobic bacteria produce lactic acid and slime. They are sometimes, but not always, found in kombucha.
- Gluconacetobacter kombuchae [2] is an anaerobic bacteria that is unique to kombucha. It feeds on nitrogen that is found in tea and produces acetic acid and gluconic acid, as well as building the scoby.
- Zygosaccharomyceskombuchaensis [3] is a yeast strain that is unique to kombucha. It produces alcohol and carbonation as well as contributing to the mushroom body
This will be a slightly more complicated brew of bacteria but can be used to control powdery mildew as reported by some, has a symbiotic relationship with your inferior human digestive track, and will help the well-being of your environment. Can be diluted and sprayed similar to every other inoculation mentioned previously, at least 1:100-250 by volume. For PM i suggest starting there and increasing. Spray at night and dilute more during flower.
My pic is a dehydrated SCOBY from a large batch i did a few months back. I dehydrated it for a month @80 degrees F and a week ago i fed it around 2 cups of sterile black tea, 1/4 cup of white sugar, and 1/4 cup of vinegar to brong the pH down but once the SCOBY is alive a new batch should not contain vinegar from my experience. Rather it should get a 1/4cup of active kambucha tea from either the previous batch or from the store. Just read the link i provided if you care. The dead scoby is suspended in the tea and the baby is growing on the surface. The local pond will get the dead colony in the next week and I'll cultivate the young into many more offspring.
And here are some very healthy looking SCOBY i found on google.
Fastslappy
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I've got a fig tree with a bumper crop of fruit is that of any use to ferment .?
I' ve used a banana beer ferment for the last 2 years last year added some enzyme fr0m buildasoil to the ferment
just R/O & enzyme in a 1 gallon jug filled with sundried banana peel (edit) left to set for a month ot till dark brown & sweet smelling
the solids go to worms
this stuff is heady as it's seemly safe to over use , i use 3 to 4 tbs per gallon at the bulking weeks
also used as a jump start to soil "cooking"
I' ve used a banana beer ferment for the last 2 years last year added some enzyme fr0m buildasoil to the ferment
just R/O & enzyme in a 1 gallon jug filled with sundried banana peel (edit) left to set for a month ot till dark brown & sweet smelling
the solids go to worms
this stuff is heady as it's seemly safe to over use , i use 3 to 4 tbs per gallon at the bulking weeks
also used as a jump start to soil "cooking"
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iHearAll
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Good stuff, i make that too. It can be used pretty heavy if you're not drenching the leaves. I've burned autos with banana ferment used in foliar.
The figs, i assume spoiled, can be used to increase brix. Ferment just like everything else. Add it to every watering during fruit set or flowering. In the fermention you can add other fruits to balance the npk if you want but there wont be anything too unorthodox if it's 100% figs.
By themselves i would expect something like 2-0-1 with trace elements and lots of sugars....so, certainly safe and worth while.
Amount Per 1 cup (261 g)
Calories 279
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.3 g 0%
Saturated fat 0.1 g 0%
Polyunsaturated fat 0.1 g
Monounsaturated fat 0.1 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 3 mg 0%
Potassium 253 mg 7%
Total Carbohydrate 73 g 24%
Protein 1 g 2%
Vitamin A 1% Vitamin C 4%
Calcium 6% Iron 3%
Vitamin D 0% Vitamin B-6 0%
Vitamin B-12 0% Magnesium 6%
The figs, i assume spoiled, can be used to increase brix. Ferment just like everything else. Add it to every watering during fruit set or flowering. In the fermention you can add other fruits to balance the npk if you want but there wont be anything too unorthodox if it's 100% figs.
By themselves i would expect something like 2-0-1 with trace elements and lots of sugars....so, certainly safe and worth while.
Amount Per 1 cup (261 g)
Calories 279
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.3 g 0%
Saturated fat 0.1 g 0%
Polyunsaturated fat 0.1 g
Monounsaturated fat 0.1 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 3 mg 0%
Potassium 253 mg 7%
Total Carbohydrate 73 g 24%
Protein 1 g 2%
Vitamin A 1% Vitamin C 4%
Calcium 6% Iron 3%
Vitamin D 0% Vitamin B-6 0%
Vitamin B-12 0% Magnesium 6%
Fastslappy
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they're still green & hanging , the tree is huge a volunteer I usually let the wild life take em
but el nino rains have a bumper crop in the tree & I have worms to feed lol
yeah that banana peel beer is great stuff
but el nino rains have a bumper crop in the tree & I have worms to feed lol
yeah that banana peel beer is great stuff
iHearAll
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I kept the carrot pulp extract in the pail a few days longer than other liquid extracts. Very nice colonies are set. I'll strain out the carrot and turnip pulp when this rain passes. The worms could use a chance to dry out before i disturb them again. I had them in a wheelbarrow and it's a bit puddled. Hammered a few holes in the bottom and placed a plastic jug to catch the worm water. Sad but shit happens.
bizfactory
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How much do you use per gallon when feeding fermented plant extracts...in my case, dandelion. I mixed it with LAB/Molasses during the fermentation.
So far 1 TBSP / Gallon has showed no signs of problems but I'm afraid to push it!
So far 1 TBSP / Gallon has showed no signs of problems but I'm afraid to push it!
iHearAll
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2Tsp per liter is a full dose. So 8per gallon is sorta proportional. I usually use that much unless its a foliar spray. Lately, tho i've been using a 1/2cup to 2 cups of each extract per 5 gallons water, adding a kiter if bokashi in a sock tea tea bag, aerating for 24-48hrs, diluting 1:2 and watering the soil. Ya dig?
bizfactory
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Aggressive! Sounds like there is a lot of wiggle room.