Gorilla Bubble from Tonygreens Tortured Beans

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tonygreen

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Glad to hear it stoni! I rant about it so much im glad someone listened ha! Big troubles in litle china, woman left with the kids, tough times dont last tough people do.... hopefully well get it sorted.

Ill grab some pix soon, the blues got a sweet/sour blueberry thing goin on with the glue funk under,,, so far!
 

PerroVerde

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Glad to hear it stoni! I rant about it so much im glad someone listened ha! Big troubles in litle china, woman left with the kids, tough times dont last tough people do.... hopefully well get it sorted.

Ill grab some pix soon, the blues got a sweet/sour blueberry thing goin on with the glue funk under,,, so far!
Sorry to hear that brother, like you said I hope things gets sorted out. Been there done that a couple times...
 

Stonironi

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Glad to hear it stoni! I rant about it so much im glad someone listened ha! Big troubles in litle china, woman left with the kids, tough times dont last tough people do.... hopefully well get it sorted.

Ill grab some pix soon, the blues got a sweet/sour blueberry thing goin on with the glue funk under,,, so far!
Sounds like my life sometimes. Hell probably everybody's life ! Ha. Man family life is hard... Hopefully she comes to her senses and you can work it out. I know you don't ,but if you do need anything from my end to help Hollar at me ! Blue sour bubble should be a wicked hybrid. I'm gonna start the gorilla bubble if these Rugburn ogs ever decide to take off?? Organic growing seems to be very slow ? Almost too slow !! I came from growing with chemicals and it is so far night and day difference in how they grow ?
 

st0wandgrow

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Glad to hear it stoni! I rant about it so much im glad someone listened ha! Big troubles in litle china, woman left with the kids, tough times dont last tough people do.... hopefully well get it sorted.

Ill grab some pix soon, the blues got a sweet/sour blueberry thing goin on with the glue funk under,,, so far!
Sorry to hear that Tony. Keep your nose in the garden. I always turn to my plants when life throws a curveball. Something very therapeutic about gardening.
 

akhiymjames

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Here is some BX2, 70% gg4 dom leaners been showing up so far... couple recessive sour b midgets here and there... You guys will be able tell to tell a week or two in as seedlings...

Last pic bs gg4 in background...
Man awesome job you have done with them really. Been following your progress with these for a while and it's amazing what you have done when you put the right time and effort in to breeding a quality cultivar. If you wouldn't have said it was the bx2 I would've thought it was GG#4. First pic looks exactly like GG#4 great work bro. Anyone who can't get cut will enjoy these seeds. Good vibes sent your way bro about everything bro
 

PerroVerde

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Man awesome job you have done with them really. Been following your progress with these for a while and it's amazing what you have done when you put the right time and effort in to breeding a quality cultivar. If you wouldn't have said it was the bx2 I would've thought it was GG#4. First pic looks exactly like GG#4 great work bro. Anyone who can't get cut will enjoy these seeds. Good vibes sent your way bro about everything bro
I totally agree. There is no way I'm getting close to an actual GG#4 cut where I live. I'm super happy the get my hands on some Gorilla Bubble vs. a fly by night S1 that hasn't even been tested. Thank you @tonygreen ... :)
 

PerroVerde

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@tonygreen , got two quick questions. I was reading the IC thread on GB and I saw where you were talking about texting the males ability to deliver potency to its offspring. In what method did you determine that with the "Dude". Second question is how did the Blue Hawaiian turn out? Hehe... ;)
 

tonygreen

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Blue hawaiian... You know the fucker, my last partner i dumped snagged 3-5 pounds from our harvest ha!

Extensive testing was done on my original sour bubble male in the form of progeny tests and outcrosses. Those can still be seen some in elements thread.

As for testing once we got into the GB line. A big focus I always make is on topping response, how fast a plant recovers from topping, how fast it "shoots" from nodes after topping.
Many plants dont do well and some can even show reveg stress from too much topping. It is also a great way to test intersex the first few weeks of flower. You can see the results of this
now because when you top them, they absolutely explode. I recommend everyone top theirs early and at least once. You will see what I mean. In doing this the branching trait is locked in and breeding true now. This will be amazing for outcrossing.

Intersex has been the biggest test tbh, we're playing with fire, gg4 is from a herm and sour bubble males will herm fairly easily, (went through about 30 of em over 9 months or so to find on that would not throw a hair no mater what) thats my original male. This is done with root trimming stress, topping, cold testing, drought, heat and high feed during early flower. After that anyone who does not show interesex is thrown back into reveg for more stress.

I went through 300+ beans in solo cups testing to find the dude. Many were tossed in week 1 or 2. You will see what I mean, the sour b runts are obvious.
From there I was looking for physical signs I am familiar with after growing these plants for so long. Hollow stems tossed, looking for that pithy stem that the gg4 has generally, better for
LST and training, hollow stems are hard to train. At this point I also cut cal and mg out to observe the deficiency response i wanted to see similar to gg4. This made it even more obvious.
The gg4 red striping and leaf twist. A week or two after those cullings you can see the growth pattern very well, anyone with bad topping response was tossed...

I was down to about 50-75 then into flower for intersex testing. I had just a couple intersex I tossed and most of the females. That got me down to about 20 males.
from there I went to my score sheets of all my testing, bottom half were tossed,,,, From there it was easy to make a decision.

I am not doing open polls because I would like influence on the intersex trait. Sour bubble and gg4 are potent as fuck, with sour b inbred and reliably passing potency, not really an issue!
Have not seen a plant that doesnt have potency yet, terpene profiles will vary so that will be the key, finding one you like the taste of. Ranging from gg4 funk dominating to phenos with other top notes above the funk of the glue.

The glue dom leaners have been hard to find. Dan got lucky and found 2 in the F1 and that started the parallel lines. I took the F1 to F2 to make it easier to find a glue dom as the traits segregated, thas where my bx started. BX1 had lots of hyrbid phenos with traits getting passsed around, sour b dom with huge internodes etc, the branching trait become obvious at this point.
Now with hard selection it is clear we broke the barrier in BX2. 70% glue leaners, a few hybrid phenos yet and the rare 2/10 sour b Leaners, like I said you will see differentiation as sprouts and seedlings.

It has been a few years of work but BX2 is now way more reliable that the s1 for gg4 phenos. The s1 has more terpene variations.
Most smoke tests can report back on the glue funk underneath and good fast head change from the glue but with a deeper more body back end.
This is from the sour B and the pain relief I rant about sour b has transferred over as well. Much more therapeutic for pain than the glue.

Cant wait to see what you guys find!
 

PerroVerde

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Blue hawaiian... You know the fucker, my last partner i dumped snagged 3-5 pounds from our harvest ha!

Extensive testing was done on my original sour bubble male in the form of progeny tests and outcrosses. Those can still be seen some in elements thread.

As for testing once we got into the GB line. A big focus I always make is on topping response, how fast a plant recovers from topping, how fast it "shoots" from nodes after topping.
Many plants dont do well and some can even show reveg stress from too much topping. It is also a great way to test intersex the first few weeks of flower. You can see the results of this
now because when you top them, they absolutely explode. I recommend everyone top theirs early and at least once. You will see what I mean. In doing this the branching trait is locked in and breeding true now. This will be amazing for outcrossing.

Intersex has been the biggest test tbh, we're playing with fire, gg4 is from a herm and sour bubble males will herm fairly easily, (went through about 30 of em over 9 months or so to find on that would not throw a hair no mater what) thats my original male. This is done with root trimming stress, topping, cold testing, drought, heat and high feed during early flower. After that anyone who does not show interesex is thrown back into reveg for more stress.

I went through 300+ beans in solo cups testing to find the dude. Many were tossed in week 1 or 2. You will see what I mean, the sour b runts are obvious.
From there I was looking for physical signs I am familiar with after growing these plants for so long. Hollow stems tossed, looking for that pithy stem that the gg4 has generally, better for
LST and training, hollow stems are hard to train. At this point I also cut cal and mg out to observe the deficiency response i wanted to see similar to gg4. This made it even more obvious.
The gg4 red striping and leaf twist. A week or two after those cullings you can see the growth pattern very well, anyone with bad topping response was tossed...

I was down to about 50-75 then into flower for intersex testing. I had just a couple intersex I tossed and most of the females. That got me down to about 20 males.
from there I went to my score sheets of all my testing, bottom half were tossed,,,, From there it was easy to make a decision.

I am not doing open polls because I would like influence on the intersex trait. Sour bubble and gg4 are potent as fuck, with sour b inbred and reliably passing potency, not really an issue!
Have not seen a plant that doesnt have potency yet, terpene profiles will vary so that will be the key, finding one you like the taste of. Ranging from gg4 funk dominating to phenos with other top notes above the funk of the glue.

The glue dom leaners have been hard to find. Dan got lucky and found 2 in the F1 and that started the parallel lines. I took the F1 to F2 to make it easier to find a glue dom as the traits segregated, thas where my bx started. BX1 had lots of hyrbid phenos with traits getting passsed around, sour b dom with huge internodes etc, the branching trait become obvious at this point.
Now with hard selection it is clear we broke the barrier in BX2. 70% glue leaners, a few hybrid phenos yet and the rare 2/10 sour b Leaners, like I said you will see differentiation as sprouts and seedlings.

It has been a few years of work but BX2 is now way more reliable that the s1 for gg4 phenos. The s1 has more terpene variations.
Most smoke tests can report back on the glue funk underneath and good fast head change from the glue but with a deeper more body back end.
This is from the sour B and the pain relief I rant about sour b has transferred over as well. Much more therapeutic for pain than the glue.

Cant wait to see what you guys find!
As always a wealth of education and information. I will be dropping some GB bean in the end of next month all my space is booked till then. Thank you for taking the time to share with us here Tony!
 

tonygreen

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After BX 3 is made I will go through them and will be selfing many mothers and running their progeny in lines side by side test for homozygosity.
This will determine the final touches on the line. I wont call her true breeding stable yet but she is getting close.
On the back side of this project now!

In the back of my mind this work is probably going to lay the groundwork for some amazing stuff over the next decade. Not only from me but from people who build on my work.
The gg4 has been moved toward a more homozygous state and it will show in her outcross's.

If anyone wants to invest in Tortured Beans and become part owner let me know. I am trying to save 20k to buy a small house in the country so I can leave the city and work better with more space and freedom. I currently rent extra space and rooms from friends to work in. We can talk about shares from the drops and other lifetime bean perks if anyone is interested. If I had a few investors we could make this happen pretty easily. As it is I am stuck in one of the most militarized and dangerous cities in the country, the police generally look like military, the PD have a black out cia style center here where they detain you for weeks with no lawyer and shit ha...The cost of living prevents you from leaving, it is a trap. 4 kids to support and my wife makes it harder. I have 5k buried the rest is a battle. Kind of out there idea but I thought it might be worth a shot I thought. Speaking of shots we are at 1300 people shot so far this year in my town... Been eyeing this 4 bedroom farm house, had it at 23k and just dropped to 17900, if only I had more saved id be gone. Off chance anyone is interested let me know!
 

tonygreen

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Appreciate the kind words guys and no problem perro. My wife and the kids moved back downstate with her dad so I'm just up here working silently atm.
Stressful times, missin my kids,,, green jr cut his first tooth and will be walking soon. She is not from here and the last four years have been very hard on her, the city is not what she is used to at all.
I blame her but I don't at the same time because I know what it is like to try to adjust to this shit fucking place... Ah well we'll get through it like we always do. I just gotta gtfo here ASAP! If not I ill die here alone and trapped... I really hate this place... idk why i loved it as a kid,,, people change I guess... seeing 25 years of murder and robbery and shitty as cops and shitty ass people... One time I was driving and seen an old lady older than dirt collapsed on a corner,,, people were walking right by her, I turned around and got out and turns out she fell and something broke, called the ambulance for her, i wonder how long she would have laid there....
 

st0wandgrow

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Appreciate the kind words guys and no problem perro. My wife and the kids moved back downstate with her dad so I'm just up here working silently atm.
Stressful times, missin my kids,,, green jr cut his first tooth and will be walking soon. She is not from here and the last four years have been very hard on her, the city is not what she is used to at all.
I blame her but I don't at the same time because I know what it is like to try to adjust to this shit fucking place... Ah well we'll get through it like we always do. I just gotta gtfo here ASAP! If not I ill die here alone and trapped... I really hate this place... idk why i loved it as a kid,,, people change I guess... seeing 25 years of murder and robbery and shitty as cops and shitty ass people... One time I was driving and seen an old lady older than dirt collapsed on a corner,,, people were walking right by her, I turned around and got out and turns out she fell and something broke, called the ambulance for her, i wonder how long she would have laid there....
What city do you live in Tony? Sounds worse than Detroit! lol
 

tonygreen

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Two main phenos popping up in the blues, here is a stocky one with tight internodes and a little gg4 leaf curl for ya.
gg4 funk underneath with sweet sour blue notes on top, had one show fasciation that smelled like blueberry and spanish onion lol...
The other more dominant pheno has big internodes like the glue. pics of that one later. Here is a m/f of the stocky pheno... these two are untopped, I trimmed the fans off so you can see the branching trait at work, the ones i topped simply exploded...

this is a m/f matching pheno.

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