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[SomeGuy]

oh yes.. I follow along and can visually picture what your intent is. here is my 2cents...

-feed lines and drippers suck
-mixing nutrients in a big rez sucks
-keeping that solution "perfect" sucks also

-the "wick" in a sip eliminates drippers and pumps (zero mess or leaks)
-does exactly what you are saying but in a ground-water type of way without any timers, pumps or anything mechanical to go wrong. Even if the airstone quits.. BFD its just to add oxygen to the water anyway. FYI Ive ran my sips without the stones on for a couple days.. no issues.

There is my argument. its all about lazy with results for me.. LOL

 

[SomeGuy]

What about "Flushing" with a setup like this?

Why the fuck would I need to flush organic soil

 

[Afgan King]

What about "Flushing" with a setup like this?

The only flush involved is feeding ph'd water for the whole week before crop. I feed every 3-4 days and they drink about 3-3.5 gallons Everytime I feed into my pots so a total of 6-7gallons will be used over the week but it's basically still a hydro system so that last week cleans em nicely and gets you a great fade

 

[Afgan King]

oh yes.. I follow along and can visually picture what your intent is. here is my 2cents...

-feed lines and drippers suck
-mixing nutrients in a big rez sucks
-keeping that solution "perfect" sucks also

-the "wick" in a sip eliminates drippers and pumps (zero mess or leaks)
-does exactly what you are saying but in a ground-water type of way without any timers, pumps or anything mechanical to go wrong. Even if the airstone quits.. BFD its just to add oxygen to the water anyway. FYI Ive ran my sips without the stones on for a couple days.. no issues.

There is my argument. its all about lazy with results for me.. LOL

And no drippers or pumps everywhere one or 2 res with a 1/2hp pumpa hose and a wand mix up before you feed and anything left over can last for 7 days with an air stone or pump keeping it mixed I almost never use all my feed and use old mix when I mix up new one I have a gallon counter on my hose so whatever I add to the res before feeding is what I add in nutes

 

[OneHitDone]

Why the fuck would I need to flush organic soil

To clear out that nasty dirt taste

 

[SomeGuy]

To clear out that nasty dirt taste

LMFAO..

I must say... Ive grown hydro. I always flushed in hydro. but flushing is true nonsense in organics.

OMG AFGHAN KING no Thanks on hand watering everything.. even with a wand.. LOL

 

[ttystikk]

oh yes.. I follow along and can visually picture what your intent is. here is my 2cents...

-feed lines and drippers suck
-mixing nutrients in a big rez sucks
-keeping that solution "perfect" sucks also

-the "wick" in a sip eliminates drippers and pumps (zero mess or leaks)
-does exactly what you are saying but in a ground-water type of way without any timers, pumps or anything mechanical to go wrong. Even if the airstone quits.. BFD its just to add oxygen to the water anyway. FYI Ive ran my sips without the stones on for a couple days.. no issues.

There is my argument. its all about lazy with results for me.. LOL

That all adds up to a concept engineering schools call 'fault tolerance'; when things continue swimming along without the need for much active direction, even if a component fails.

By way of stark contrast, if any of several different things go wrong for even a few hours, the RDWC run is fucked.

 

[Afgan King]

LMFAO..

I must say... Ive grown hydro. I always flushed in hydro. but flushing is true nonsense in organics.

OMG AFGHAN KING no Thanks on hand watering everything.. even with a wand.. LOL

Shit we did it in rooms with 180 plants lol it's the best way to do it

 

[Afgan King]

That all adds up to a concept engineering schools call 'fault tolerance'; when things continue swimming along without the need for much active direction, even if a component fails.
Why I love handfeeding you have to look at your plants while you feed gives the grower time to learn what each plant wants and likes
By way of stark contrast, if any of several different things go wrong for even a few hours, the RDWC run is fucked.

 

[SomeGuy]

That all adds up to a concept engineering schools call 'fault tolerance'; when things continue swimming along without the need for much active direction, even if a component fails.

By way of stark contrast, if any of several different things go wrong for even a few hours, the RDWC run is fucked.

Yes... fault tolerance is good for folks with no time to "fiddle" with it. I too found dwc/rdwc a huge PIA. So I am thrilled to find a system I can leave alone for almost two weeks if need be and will not fail but in fact thrive. The organic soil seems to "buffer" any problem from roots in the rez.

For the record. I top watered once when I started them to make sure the medium was all wetted the same. I have added nothing in the way of feed and have zero top watering since.

 

[OneHitDone]

Yes... fault tolerance is good for folks with no time to "fiddle" with it. I too found dwc/rdwc a huge PIA. So I am thrilled to find a system I can leave alone for almost two weeks if need be and will not fail but in fact thrive. The organic soil seems to "buffer" any problem from roots in the rez.

For the record. I top watered once when I started them to make sure the medium was all wetted the same. I have added nothing in the way of feed and have zero top watering since.

My question is how do you know what to amend with, when, and in what quantity's?

 

[Afgan King]

My question is how do you know what to amend with, when, and in what quantity's?

You don't amend with anything it's run with canna nutrients he's got someone taking apart the canna line to figure out in a run or two what all we need to make it ourselves and I have a schedule for ml per gallon of each nute from canna during every week of the plants life.

 

[SomeGuy]

My question is how do you know what to amend with, when, and in what quantity's?

Well... I just know... From experience. But in the system Afghan is running it's bottled nutes. Dry ferts I use w amendments. If it's omri listed there is a very low chance.of it burning

 

[ttystikk]

You don't amend with anything it's run with canna nutrients he's got someone taking apart the canna line to figure out in a run or two what all we need to make it ourselves and I have a schedule for ml per gallon of each nute from canna during every week of the plants life.

@MisterBlah already has the basics on his site;

http://www.open-salt.com/fertilizer-database/canna-continental/

I may need hand holding, but I give credit where it's due!

 

[Afgan King]

Where's rhizotonic and cannazym and sweet raw?

 

[ttystikk]

Where's rhizotonic and cannazym and sweet raw?

https://www.rollitup.org/t/reverse-engineering-everyones-nutrients.893906/

 

[Afgan King]

Its up to u buddy

 

[Afgan King]

I'm just sticking with what I know there are always proprietary things they leave off the label just like with big pharma with medicine some name brands have ingredients that's are in the generics idk if u do it with good success I'm not an idiot I'll gladly save the money just not in a position to gamble a crop right now if ya catch my drift lol

 

[OneHitDone]

@ttystikk this is where I think you will find coco performance trailing behind RDWC is in the young stages. Trying to get them off and running from clone.
Hydro just delivers in that aspect

 

[MisterBlah]

Where's rhizotonic and cannazym and sweet raw?

I'm just sticking with what I know there are always proprietary things they leave off the label just like with big pharma with medicine some name brands have ingredients that's are in the generics idk if u do it with good success I'm not an idiot I'll gladly save the money just not in a position to gamble a crop right now if ya catch my drift lol

I understand not wanting to gamble on a crop. I know it takes a lot to understand a lot of what I'm doing. And that's okay. I don't expect people to make changes over night. Just like growing plants, it's a process and it takes time and effort, from both me and you. I do my best to provide accurate information, but again, this is not a commercial enterprise. I don't have a lot of money to put into it and I'm not here to make money off this, so it's not easy and it doesn't go quickly.