EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

londonfog

londonfog

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Kasuti said:
We really need to reform our election laws to make them more consistent and fair. As of now there are many backdoor deals probably being made for these so-called superdelegates
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Maybe, but they have been in place for 32 years now. Obama was able to overcome Hillary's Superdelegate lead. Bernie will not.
Kind of fucked up for Bernie to keep feeding his supporters false hope. Some of his supporters are not stable enough for it. Math is something you can't argue.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Kasuti said:
We really need to reform our election laws to make them more consistent and fair. As of now there are many backdoor deals probably being made for these so-called superdelegates
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I don't know if winner take all is better. I think winner takes all is less democratic. Proportional allocation for democratic delegates now plays to Hillary's favor is more a factor of how well she did early on in the South. The South will probably go Republican in the Fall yet influenced the choice of Hillary for the Democrats. Go figure. But I don't think its crooked, it's just the way it goes. Bernie really didn't start campaigning until last year and was practically unknown to southern voters before then. Hillary, like her or not, has been campaigning to be prez for about 100 years and is pretty well known.

I do think that the super delegates are a remnant of the past and should be eliminated however. Right now, it looks like Hillary is going to win the popular vote outright, so I don't think super delegates are much of an issue. Their votes will pump up Hillary's count at the convention but its just window dressing.
 
Kasuti

Kasuti

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Fogdog said:
I don't know if winner take all is better. I think winner takes all is less democratic. Proportional allocation for democratic delegates now plays to Hillary's favor is more a factor of how well she did early on in the South. The South will probably go Republican in the Fall yet influenced the choice of Hillary for the Democrats. Go figure. But I don't think its crooked, it's just the way it goes. Bernie really didn't start campaigning until last year and was practically unknown to southern voters before then. Hillary, like her or not, has been campaigning to be prez for about 100 years and is pretty well known.

I do think that the super delegates are a remnant of the past and should be eliminated however. Right now, it looks like Hillary is going to win the popular vote outright, so I don't think super delegates are much of an issue. Their votes will pump up Hillary's count at the convention but its just window dressing.
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The south is Hillary's stronghold so I think she will always do well there, that being said I have always been in favor of popular voting practices. Shouldn't it come down to the numbers of voters
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Kasuti said:
So the burn wins,but not enough to really matter.
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Don't be so pessimistic; he's on his way to being the winner of 40% of all the states in the Union, which makes the target of every machine politics scam in the book look fucking invincible by comparison to the 'inevitable' candidate who doesn't poll well with her own party, let alone against any likely republican nominee.

The democratic party will never be the same after this election, mark my words.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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ttystikk said:
Don't be so pessimistic; he's on his way to being the winner of 40% of all the states in the Union, which makes the target of every machine politics scam in the book look fucking invincible by comparison to the 'inevitable' candidate who doesn't poll well with her own party, let alone against any likely republican nominee.

The democratic party will never be the same after this election, mark my words.
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I'm going to blame your anger on this being your first election you have ever participated in.
Bernie will concede and then he will endorse Hillary. He just wants everyone to get their vote.
 
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spandy

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NLXSK1 said:
I usually ride it till the election then go away for a while. No matter who wins, the argument is over at that point.

This one is going to be fun for the next 5 months...
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I'll have my fun when biz slows for winter, just after the butt hurt starts in November when their champions fall.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Corso312 said:
Bernie is hanging tough n fighting the good fight..I remember Hillary waiting around for a Rev. Wright video scandal to blow up in Obamas face..maybe Bernie is waiting on this FBI investigation.
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I prefer to think that he's fighting because he believes he's the best choice America has for President. In that case I'd agree with him, scandal or not.
 
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schuylaar

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londonfog said:
Maybe, but they have been in place for 32 years now. Obama was able to overcome Hillary's Superdelegate lead. Bernie will not.
Kind of fucked up for Bernie to keep feeding his supporters false hope. Some of his supporters are not stable enough for it. Math is something you can't argue.
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It's kind of fucked up to support Clinton who WILL lose to Trump.

If I were you I'd bet on the sure thing..Sanders who beats Trump by double digits.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
It's kind of fucked up to support Clinton who WILL lose to Trump.

If I were you I'd bet on the sure thing..Sanders who beats Trump by double digits.
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Bernie has two chances at winning the nomination,
1) slim
2) none

Maybe he will run as an independent but he says he won't.

Elections matter and its time to face up to a Hillary presidency because the GOP has all but given this post to the Democrats. But all is not lost. Perhaps your state could elect Congressmen that would pull the Clinton administration towards the left? Oh that's right, you live in Florida. So, maybe not right now.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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schuylaar said:
Only voting will, which is why the CheesyFog group has their panties in a bunch.

They want you to get behind Clinton who will most assuredly lose to Trump with the 'neck and neck' status.

Sanders on the other hand shows clear winning wide margin over Trump.

So you have to ask yourself how much are they getting paid to push a loser on us?

And why won't they just back the clear winner..Sanders?

Seems downright un-American to me.
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Sanders would beat trump. I believe that.

Its funny to see people think hillary is cleaner than trump.
 
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