Autoflower flowering way too early

WezzyMan

WezzyMan

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Hey Guys,

I'm your typical newbie to the forum, been reading and following for a while, this is my first post. Been interested in plants and botany my whole life so very clued up when it comes to growing stuff. Having said that I'm brand new to cannabis growing. I've started with Autoflowers as I figured this would be the easiest, obviously, like so many noobs I regret that decision and will be growing normal strains from now onwards.

Anyway I started two White Dwarf's in seed trays and within about 3 weeks noticed white pistols growing from the top, I believe this is pre flower? I then transplanted the two into 3gal pots and since then they have further developed pistols as well as the fine crystal like spots you see on the surrounding leaves.

I currently have them in a grow tent with a 400w MH lamp as well as correct ventilation and am running on a 12/12 light schedule (I know this is counter productive to vegetative growth however this was more of a first time grow experiment than anything else)

by the looks of the plants (pics attached) I'm not going to get a very good yield. how much further are these ladies going to grow and what final yield could I expect? I'm using veg nutes at the moment should i switch to flowering nutes ? Would appreciate your thoughts

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archingfob

archingfob

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Preflower is correct. From the looks you probably had pistils for a week or more at least. I'd wait to switch to flowering nutes so you can try and get a little more stretch.
I'd hope for a gram. Here my first auto in a few years. She showed pistils yesterday. Photo is today.

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Thenoob420

Thenoob420

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It looks fine it is just small. Next time when you plant, I would plant directly into final pot. I would start flower nutes in about another couple weeks. I started flowering nutes around week 6. Yield wise I would say about a gram maybe more.
 
Thenoob420

Thenoob420

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Lesson are to be learned. I learned with my auto I topped her and lst and could not get her nutes right. She still persevered through it all and I might have 15 grams dry, but my northern lights that moved slower gave me the ability to learn from some mistakes. Just learn from mistakes and in the end she should give you some smoke, and it might be the best smoke.
 
WezzyMan

WezzyMan

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Thenoob420 said:
It looks fine it is just small. Next time when you plant, I would plant directly into final pot. I would start flower nutes in about another couple weeks. I started flowering nutes around week 6. Yield wise I would say about a gram maybe more.
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Thanks, yeah I realised that after reading around here, should have planted them direct in final pot.
 
WezzyMan

WezzyMan

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Thenoob420 said:
Lesson are to be learned. I learned with my auto I topped her and lst and could not get her nutes right. She still persevered through it all and I might have 15 grams dry, but my northern lights that moved slower gave me the ability to learn from some mistakes. Just learn from mistakes and in the end she should give you some smoke, and it might be the best smoke
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Shot! Yea luckily I bought some Blue Cheese and Norther lights seeds with my autos, will get stuck into those after harvesting the autos.
 
S

Stipulus

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WezzyMan said:
Hey Guys,

I'm your typical newbie to the forum, been reading and following for a while, this is my first post. Been interested in plants and botany my whole life so very clued up when it comes to growing stuff. Having said that I'm brand new to cannabis growing. I've started with Autoflowers as I figured this would be the easiest, obviously, like so many noobs I regret that decision and will be growing normal strains from now onwards.

Anyway I started two White Dwarf's in seed trays and within about 3 weeks noticed white pistols growing from the top, I believe this is pre flower? I then transplanted the two into 3gal pots and since then they have further developed pistols as well as the fine crystal like spots you see on the surrounding leaves.

I currently have them in a grow tent with a 400w MH lamp as well as correct ventilation and am running on a 12/12 light schedule (I know this is counter productive to vegetative growth however this was more of a first time grow experiment than anything else)

by the looks of the plants (pics attached) I'm not going to get a very good yield. how much further are these ladies going to grow and what final yield could I expect? I'm using veg nutes at the moment should i switch to flowering nutes ? Would appreciate your thoughts

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12/12 is wrong, with autos they need to be atleast 18/6, I have mine set on 20/4 and they are going great guns. Auto flowers will come into flower earlier if you reduce the light schedule...
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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honestly the best veg light cycle for autos is 24/0...you want the most growth possible in those 30 days. Generally adding dark periods will produce stretchier taller plants, 24 hour light will reduce stretch and produce fuller plants. Ill use dark periods as a tool, if i want a bit more height... ill add a dark period for a day or 2,then go back to 24 hour light.Plants dont sleep... regardless of all the nonsence you will read on the net.Plants will stretch for light in the darkness thats why you see verticle growth and "praying" after a dark cycle... it really has nothing to do with "getting a good night sleep"...its the plant looking for light..

in the ops case his plant is just straight up stunted... hard to say if its from poor nutrition, watering habits or enviroment, but regardless its not the plants fault its in this state. And honestly if nothing else changes he wont have better luck with a photosensitive plant.
 
WezzyMan

WezzyMan

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Resinhound said:
in the ops case his plant is just straight up stunted... hard to say if its from poor nutrition, watering habits or enviroment, but regardless its not the plants fault its in this state. And honestly if nothing else changes he wont have better luck with a photosensitive plant
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Been growing stuff for 20 years. Its not poor nutrition or watering habits. EC meter confirms this. The temps are slightly high during day 29-30C. Its a dwarf strain, wouldn't this explain the presumed stunted growth ?
 
SickSickWorld

SickSickWorld

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More light brother, plants are solar powered! At least 18 hours per day, all the way up to 24 if your bills can handle it.

My first auto got severely fucked and stunted, and nearly died several times. Still yielded just over an ounce of some lovely weed. It was 6" tall.

You have a limited time to play with autos, so for the rest of her life try and induce a bit of stretching and side branching so you get more actual plant!

Best of luck
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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WezzyMan said:
Been growing stuff for 20 years. Its not poor nutrition or watering habits. EC meter confirms this. The temps are slightly high during day 29-30C. Its a dwarf strain, wouldn't this explain the presumed stunted growth ?
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lol no...and honestly the idea that you suggest that is pretty ridiculous.

You fucked this plant up, plain and simple.

now maybe stop blaming the strain and figure out what YOU did wrong so you dont repeat it. Ok mr 20 year pro, since you have an ec meter why dont you tell us what you have been feeding and at what concentrations? also tell us a little about your watering schedule.
 
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billytimmy

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Resinhound said:
its funny that people jack up their plants like this and blame it on the autoflower... 25-35 days is normal for flowering times. Learn to veg plants properly without stunting them and you might get some yield next time.
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Resinhound said:
lol no...and honestly the idea that you suggest that is pretty ridiculous.

You fucked this plant up, plain and simple.

now maybe stop blaming the strain and figure out what YOU did wrong so you dont repeat it. Ok mr 20 year pro, since you have an ec meter why dont you tell us what you have been feeding and at what concentrations? also tell us a little about your watering schedule.
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@Resinhound does not know shit about growing, be warned
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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billytimmy said:
@Resinhound does not know shit about growing, be warned
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so in your professional opinion... this is par for the course for this strain then?.. all white dwarfs wind up 3inches tall at flower?... lol.

pleeeease... lol.

this coming from the guy that has trouble with "lockout susceptable" strains... haha, what a joke.

that was fun.. now back on ignore with you billy.
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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there are plenty of examples of white dwarfs grown correctly on youtube... and they dont look anything like the ops example here.

my point still stands... stop blaming the plant for your own mistakes. Figure out the problem with your methods and fix them.
 
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