Should food be a right?

Should food be a right?

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 63.8%
  • No

    Votes: 17 36.2%

  • Total voters
    47

Michael Huntherz

Well-Known Member
And thats why America is fat. It isn't exercise, its nutrition. When you eat like shit, you feel like shit whether you realize it or not. People who truly eat healthy have crazy amounts of energy, and being active just goes along with it.

I got shit on here because the wife and I grind our own grains/process our own flour etc. Think someone said I was too poor to buy my own. Jokes on them. Our lifestyle has allowed my wife and I to be in great physical shape, and barring disease accidents etc we will easily stay this way our entire lives.
I eat healthy and I'm overweight because exercise is difficult due to severe injury, genetics, gastro-enteric biome, and none of that matters because I'm not letting you judge me. I can still walk ten miles through rugged mountains in a day because of sheer willpower, and I'm more of a mental athlete than you could ever dream of being. I find it interesting when a person judges all others on criteria they originally set for themselves. Interesting and shameful. Try compassion, it takes more faith and courage than you may possess, but try it anyway. See if it doesn't change your life. Empathy gives you super powers. I'm sure you are compassionate with some people, but try to assume people care as much as you do, and that perhaps they are at least as smart as you, before tearing them down. I know I'm being confrontational, but you keep drawing a line between yourself and all the others and I think you're discounting the value people you don't understand can bring to your life with this sort of prejudice. Some folks are fat useless slobs, certainly, but judging all overweight individuals with a generality is silly. They are not a fungible mass.
 
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NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
I eat healthy and I'm overweight because exercise is difficult due to severe injury, genetics, gastro-enteric biome, and none of that matters because I'm not letting you judge me. I can still walk ten miles through rugged mountains in a day because of sheer willpower, and I'm more of a mental athlete than you could ever dream of being. I find it interesting when a person judges all others on criteria they originally set for themselves. Interesting and shameful. Try compassion, it takes more faith and courage than you may possess, but try it anyway. See if it doesn't change your life. Empathy gives you super powers. I'm sure you are compassionate with some people, but try to assume people care as much as you do, and that perhaps they are at least as smart as you, before tearing them down. I know I'm being confrontational, but you keep drawing a line between yourself and all the others and I think you're discounting the value people you don't understand can bring to your life with this sort of prejudice. Some folks are fat useless slobs, certainly, but judging all overweight individuals with a generality is silly. They are not a fungible mass.
If you ate less you would lose weight. I am sorry for your problems but it is simply calories in/calories out. Not judging you, just stating reality.
 

Michael Huntherz

Well-Known Member
If you ate less you would lose weight. I am sorry for your problems but it is simply calories in/calories out. Not judging you, just stating reality.
I guess we're all very proud of you, in spite of your lack of understanding of how nutritional biology actually works.

Try reading this. It really isn't as simple calories in and calories out. This scratches the surface of that.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-gut-bacteria-help-make-us-fat-and-thin/

As a result of this study I've been licking the assholes of as many skinny women as possible. It isn't really helping the weight but it is a great excuse to spend time in one of my favorite places. Okay, you kids have fun, play nice.
 

DNAprotection

Well-Known Member
The question posed by the OP here is unequivocally inseparable from the so called cannabis issue as the first and foremost considerations in response to government "regulating" (outlawing) plants outside of commercial activity are simply:

1. Does government have jurisdictional authority to "schedule", or "regulate" your access to naturally occurring plants outside of commercial activity?

2. Do you understand that by agreeing to government holding such jurisdictional reach as to essentially have authority to generally outlaw any natural plant species, does in fact extinguish your naturally endowed constitutionally protected right to grow even a carrot, and that the only reason you can do so now is because they still allow you to?

3. Do you understand that by supporting and passing any "regulation" at this point (without first addressing the 1st question posed here), is viewed in the broader sense of the law as consenting to the jurisdictional authority and agreeing that government does have authority to generally outlaw any natural plant species and thereby your access to it even outside of commercial jurisdiction/activities?

Here is a more complete explanation:
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
I guess we're all very proud of you, in spite of your lack of understanding of how nutritional biology actually works.

Try reading this. It really isn't as simple calories in and calories out. This scratches the surface of that.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-gut-bacteria-help-make-us-fat-and-thin/

As a result of this study I've been licking the assholes of as many skinny women as possible. It isn't really helping the weight but it is a great excuse to spend time in one of my favorite places. Okay, you kids have fun, play nice.

If you have experienced increased caloric intake from licking skinny girls asses you might consider showering them off, before proceeding.
 

Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
Naturally, no. Morally, very dependent on the situation. Legally and systematically, if they possess the authority to delegate, which in some cases, I suppose, would be wrong and hypocritical.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
The question posed by the OP here is unequivocally inseparable from the so called cannabis issue as the first and foremost considerations in response to government "regulating" (outlawing) plants outside of commercial activity are simply:

1. Does government have jurisdictional authority to "schedule", or "regulate" your access to naturally occurring plants outside of commercial activity?

2. Do you understand that by agreeing to government holding such jurisdictional reach as to essentially have authority to generally outlaw any natural plant species, does in fact extinguish your naturally endowed constitutionally protected right to grow even a carrot, and that the only reason you can do so now is because they still allow you to?

3. Do you understand that by supporting and passing any "regulation" at this point (without first addressing the 1st question posed here), is viewed in the broader sense of the law as consenting to the jurisdictional authority and agreeing that government does have authority to generally outlaw any natural plant species and thereby your access to it even outside of commercial jurisdiction/activities?

Here is a more complete explanation:

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Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Naturally, no. Morally, very dependent on the situation. Legally and systematically, if they possess the authority to delegate, which in some cases, I suppose, would be wrong and hypocritical.

If YOU and I have no right to delegate rights we don't have...let's say it's a "zero right" . How then, do you accumulate a bunch of "zero rights" from lots of of people, all of whom have "zero right" and then create a positive sum ?

Mathmatically, morally and fiscally, an involuntary system of government is nonsensical. When more people learn this, a paradigm shift will occur.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Again, in this case, legally/shadily it seems they can, but morally and naturally, they can't and shouldn't.
Thank you.

Legal in that case then becomes a substitute word or euphemism for, "rationalization of offensive force" as a means.

Good people disobey bad laws.
 

Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
If YOU and I have no right to delegate rights we don't have...let's say it's a "zero right" . How then, do you accumulate a bunch of "zero rights" from lots of of people, all of whom have "zero right" and then create a positive sum ?

Mathmatically, morally and fiscally, an involuntary system of government is nonsensical. When more people learn this, a paradigm shift will occur.
I think we're saying the same thing, it just boils down to which issue in particular we're discussing. There are certain things I think the majority of people would object to, and in that case, majority rules. That's been the law of the land since America's inception.
 

AlphaPhase

Well-Known Member
I said "UncleBuck" and my dogs were all like :) I love you bro. View attachment 3688639
Oh, as per "welfare". It's not so easy to get. You don't get it unless you smash your face, back and legs from a 30 foot drop AND a 55mph car accident into a tree with a car that doesn't have airbags. What I'm getting at is.. You can't just walk in to a social security building and say "I'd like social security". If you were born in America, uncle buck, you'd know that. See, how it works for most people is this.. You break your neck. Can't work. Sign up for temporary social security, or whatever (workers comp?) - whatever is proper.. Then.. Here's the fun part! You get denied. Because it's America. So you're out of work for a few years, doing appeals and reapplying for social security while medical bills stack up and you have no income. You're just waiting to get your own money back so you can survive. Then you usually have to hire a lawyer and give him 20% of your SS back pay for the help. After a couple or a few years you finally get your money that you paid in.

What happened with me is my accidents were so bad I got my social security in 2 months and it was permanent social security ;) see, when you almost die, well, they tend to expedite things... But hey, guess what? Motivation mang. Fuck permanent disability. I went from not walking to almost ready to kick your ass ;) just kidding, I won't kick you're ass, you get a gay pass UB. But anyway, yeah I'll be back to work soon. So fuck ya. And stop acting like anyone can get social security because they got a boo boo. ;) gnite yall
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
The question posed by the OP here is unequivocally inseparable from the so called cannabis issue as the first and foremost considerations in response to government "regulating" (outlawing) plants outside of commercial activity are simply:

1. Does government have jurisdictional authority to "schedule", or "regulate" your access to naturally occurring plants outside of commercial activity?

2. Do you understand that by agreeing to government holding such jurisdictional reach as to essentially have authority to generally outlaw any natural plant species, does in fact extinguish your naturally endowed constitutionally protected right to grow even a carrot, and that the only reason you can do so now is because they still allow you to?

3. Do you understand that by supporting and passing any "regulation" at this point (without first addressing the 1st question posed here), is viewed in the broader sense of the law as consenting to the jurisdictional authority and agreeing that government does have authority to generally outlaw any natural plant species and thereby your access to it even outside of commercial jurisdiction/activities?

Here is a more complete explanation:

"Intellectual property" is a government constructed fiction, invented to control.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Oh, as per "welfare". It's not so easy to get. You don't get it unless you smash your face, back and legs from a 30 foot drop AND a 55mph car accident into a tree with a car that doesn't have airbags. What I'm getting at is.. You can't just walk in to a social security building and say "I'd like social security". If you were born in America, uncle buck, you'd know that. See, how it works for most people is this.. You break your neck. Can't work. Sign up for temporary social security, or whatever (workers comp?) - whatever is proper.. Then.. Here's the fun part! You get denied. Because it's America. So you're out of work for a few years, doing appeals and reapplying for social security while medical bills stack up and you have no income. You're just waiting to get your own money back so you can survive. Then you usually have to hire a lawyer and give him 20% of your SS back pay for the help. After a couple or a few years you finally get your money that you paid in.

What happened with me is my accidents were so bad I got my social security in 2 months and it was permanent social security ;) see, when you almost die, well, they tend to expedite things... But hey, guess what? Motivation mang. Fuck permanent disability. I went from not walking to almost ready to kick your ass ;) just kidding, I won't kick you're ass, you get a gay pass UB. But anyway, yeah I'll be back to work soon. So fuck ya. And stop acting like anyone can get social security because they got a boo boo. ;) gnite yall
like i said, you are the welfare expert.
 
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