Running dried flower hops in closed loop?

KLITE

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So im a bit of a homebrwer and im pretty sure i could make a high quality solvent extraction from hops both for later isomerizing to the wort and for dabbing (why the fuck not?).
Hops do have an extremely high boiling point but my enail can reach those temps when im cleaning it lol.

You oil heads please let me know how bad an idea you think this is. There are co2 extracts out there of hops but CO2 picks up all the shit and im also sure theyd make those extracts with powdered hops not whole flowers,
i actually plan to go to hop farm around harvest time, dry them like i dry cannabis, slowly and surely pull a vacuum open some valves and let her rip.
 

R&RHashman

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sweet I homebrew as well. so seeing as the temps are low enough to not boil off anything yeah I think it migh make a super hoppy oil. as far as dabbing it, I'm a hop head but I don't think it would dab very smooth at all and most likely taste horrible. to concentrated would be my guess
 

Fadedawg

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I've extracted hop oil with a Mk III, so it works. I did an extraction to determine the feasibility of extracting hop oil during the harvest surplus and selling the oil later in the year when fresh hops are scarce and pricey.

I did it for a friends grandson, who believed he was going to make millions, but is now off chasing another dream and I have no clue where it ended up.
 

KLITE

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I've extracted hop oil with a Mk III, so it works. I did an extraction to determine the feasibility of extracting hop oil during the harvest surplus and selling the oil later in the year when fresh hops are scarce and pricey.

I did it for a friends grandson, who believed he was going to make millions, but is now off chasing another dream and I have no clue where it ended up.
How was it then? Did he try to brew with it or dab it?
 

BobCajun

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So im a bit of a homebrwer and im pretty sure i could make a high quality solvent extraction from hops both for later isomerizing to the wort and for dabbing (why the fuck not?).
Hops do have an extremely high boiling point but my enail can reach those temps when im cleaning it lol.

You oil heads please let me know how bad an idea you think this is. There are co2 extracts out there of hops but CO2 picks up all the shit and im also sure theyd make those extracts with powdered hops not whole flowers,
i actually plan to go to hop farm around harvest time, dry them like i dry cannabis, slowly and surely pull a vacuum open some valves and let her rip.
I extracted hops before. It was a gold resin which could be mixed with powder and made into something with hash consistency but which tastes pretty awful and doesn't get you high. There's a product called Lupulin which is hops resin glands, much like kief. Not easy to find though.
 

Fadedawg

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How was it then? Did he try to brew with it or dab it?
His intent was to market it to brewers, as an alternative when fresh hops are out of season.

He may have been adventuresome enough to dab it, but not Moi, so no thoughts there.
 

KLITE

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His intent was to market it to brewers, as an alternative when fresh hops are out of season.

He may have been adventuresome enough to dab it, but not Moi, so no thoughts there.
Why not exactly? Lol and dont tell me ah im just a pussy :P lol i kid

My idea is to get fresh flowers, dry them like you would dry bud if youre an 80 year old hippy, run it with just iso butane with inline dewaxing not much soak time and add it to the boil when theres enough time for the alpha acids to be izomerized in the adequate proportions to transfer a tiny amount of bitterness and most of it into flavour to the wort.
I would imagine it would turn out a lot! darker than cannabis oil just due to the nature of the plant material that constitutes the flower buds of the hop flower, tho just talking out of my ass here really and experience running cannabis and witinessing he end product.
 

KLITE

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I extracted hops before. It was a gold resin which could be mixed with powder and made into something with hash consistency but which tastes pretty awful and doesn't get you high. There's a product called Lupulin which is hops resin glands, much like kief. Not easy to find though.
Nice! Can you provide details on how you extracted it? And why would hops resin glands be nicer in terms of getting you higher than a well made extract from well processed flowers in your opinion?

Also from what i read, alpha acids have a melting point that ranges from like 580C to 620C, so unless your enail is gloweing red hot youre not gonna get high from it.

If i drink 2 half pints of seriously hoppy as fuck and FRESH! IPA im sporting a buzz thats almost like a mellow cannabis strain effect, like some thai or laotian strains ive had the lauck and pleasure to come across.
 

BobCajun

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Nice! Can you provide details on how you extracted it? And why would hops resin glands be nicer in terms of getting you higher than a well made extract from well processed flowers in your opinion?

Also from what i read, alpha acids have a melting point that ranges from like 580C to 620C, so unless your enail is gloweing red hot youre not gonna get high from it.

If i drink 2 half pints of seriously hoppy as fuck and FRESH! IPA im sporting a buzz thats almost like a mellow cannabis strain effect, like some thai or laotian strains ive had the lauck and pleasure to come across.
Just an alcohol extract as I recall (isopropyl). I just mentioned the hops resin glands as some hops trivia. Though you might be able to leach the hops oil out of the glands and dry the powder and use it to mix rosin or shatter with to make hash without actually having to sift it. And made the hops resin into hash to smoke, not on a nail but in a pipe.
 
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Fadedawg

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Why not exactly? Lol and dont tell me ah im just a pussy :P lol i kid

My idea is to get fresh flowers, dry them like you would dry bud if youre an 80 year old hippy, run it with just iso butane with inline dewaxing not much soak time and add it to the boil when theres enough time for the alpha acids to be izomerized in the adequate proportions to transfer a tiny amount of bitterness and most of it into flavour to the wort.
I would imagine it would turn out a lot! darker than cannabis oil just due to the nature of the plant material that constitutes the flower buds of the hop flower, tho just talking out of my ass here really and experience running cannabis and witinessing he end product.
Besides the pussy part, which of course I'm trying to rise above, I already know it is rife with Myrcene, which is a couch locker. I have more trouble keeping a wake than I do falling asleep, sooo it didn't occur to me to try it.
 
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