superbak3d
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The purple is just travelling sugar.
purple stems and stripes are ok.
RED stems are not ok and usually a sign of P def.
purple stems and stripes are ok.
RED stems are not ok and usually a sign of P def.
Purple stem experiences....?
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Kingrow1
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Its just simple logic, go to the plant problem forum and see how many non purple strains have purple seedling stems (probably most), genetic schemetics.... ill get a green stem on any purple strain all day long so i see no validity to the argument.
This isnt what i posted for just experiences like if growers had seen any differences with different products etc.
This isnt what i posted for just experiences like if growers had seen any differences with different products etc.
Olive Drab Green
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I just think you're correcting a non-issue. That's all.
Kingrow1
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I dont believe this unfortunatly, purple anthocyanin is a unison of sugar/glucose and cyanidin which produces purple anthocyanin. It is more related to the over abundance of sugar caused by lack of transportation. We might cite nutrient values or environmental stresses as a cause.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanidin
These are not areas i like.
Olive Drab Green
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"Cyanidin is a natural organic compound. It is a particular type ofanthocyanidin (glycoside version called anthocyanins). It is a pigment found in many red berries including grapes, bilberry, blackberry, blueberry,cherry, cranberry, elderberry, hawthorn, loganberry, açai berry andraspberry.[1] It can also be found in other fruits such as apples and plums, and in red cabbage and red onion. It has a characteristic reddish-purple color, though this can change with pH; solutions of the compound are red at pH < 3, violet at pH 7-8, and blue at pH > 11. In certain fruits, the highest concentrations of cyanidin are found in the seeds and skin.[citation needed]"
..Everything listed is supposed to be purple. What the hell are you talking about?
..Everything listed is supposed to be purple. What the hell are you talking about?
Olive Drab Green
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Furthermore:
"Cyanidin, like other anthocyanidins, has putative antioxidant and radical-scavenging effects which may protect cells from oxidative damage and reduce risk of cardiovascular diseases and cancer.[citation needed] Other studies have indicated that dietary intake of cyanidins may inhibit development of obesity[2] by inhibiting the effects of unhealthy diets.[3][4] Other studies have indicated that cyanidin intake may inhibit development of diabetes as well as provide anti-inflammatory effects.[2][5]
Other preliminary studies indicate that the glucoside derivative of cyanidin might have a role in cancer therapy, although this remains unproven beyond laboratory testing.[6][7]["
These are good things.
"Cyanidin, like other anthocyanidins, has putative antioxidant and radical-scavenging effects which may protect cells from oxidative damage and reduce risk of cardiovascular diseases and cancer.[citation needed] Other studies have indicated that dietary intake of cyanidins may inhibit development of obesity[2] by inhibiting the effects of unhealthy diets.[3][4] Other studies have indicated that cyanidin intake may inhibit development of diabetes as well as provide anti-inflammatory effects.[2][5]
Other preliminary studies indicate that the glucoside derivative of cyanidin might have a role in cancer therapy, although this remains unproven beyond laboratory testing.[6][7]["
These are good things.
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Kingrow1
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Cyanidin is colourless, anthocyanin is not, your making a common misconception between the two. The bonding of cyanidin with glucose makes anthocyanin and thats purple. Mj biochem 101 
Olive Drab Green
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I used your cited work, which states that Cyanidin is what gives those things their purple hues. Again, what are you talking about? And regardless, cyanidin is an anthocyanin, and is equally as beneficial.Cyanidin is colourless, anthocyanin is not, your making a common misconception between the two. The bonding of cyanidin with glucose makes anthocyanin and thats purple. Mj biochem 101
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Olive Drab Green
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Olive Drab Green
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Cyanidin is a particular TYPE of Anthocyanin which gives plants and berries their purple hue. That is what the source you gave me has stated. You are wrong and misinformed.
Chunky Stool
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Some nutes intentionally limit phosphorus to control stretch & keep nodes close together. This often results in purple/red stems & is not a problem.
Kingrow1
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I bought canna phosphorus but didnt do a lot
Olive Drab Green
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Kingrow, I'm not trying to get into a pissing match, but do you acknowledge my correction? Because while it's not imperative that you know, it would be wise to have the right information before you talk more nonsense about "Marijuana Biochemistry 101." I'm not trying to be a smartass, but this is what the industry needs: Legitimate research and solidly acceptable, reliable, and valid information, not misinformation/disinformation.
Olive Drab Green
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Or don't, I guess. It is what it is.
Kingrow1
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Anthocyanin is a reversible reation where by it can split back into cyanidin and glucose and hence the purple can dissapear or be transient. Youve mis read wiki and ive not given one single word of missinformation or bs on the subject
Olive Drab Green
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Cyanidin IS an anthocyanin. Cyanidin is purple. YOU misread it.Anthocyanin is a reversible reation where by it can split back into cyanidin and glucose and hence the purple can dissapear or be transient. Youve mis read wiki and ive not given one single word of missinformation or bs on the subject
Olive Drab Green
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Read the article. Cyanidin is the pigment and is distinctly red-purple, so what you're saying doesn't make sense.
Olive Drab Green
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Olive Drab Green
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Anyone reading this shit, please take Kingrow's proud bullshitting with a grain of salt before you feed into something with no actual solid basis in scientific fact. Please do not spread wrong information if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It pollutes the research and information useful in advancing the understanding of marijuana.