well I bet the average age of the Canadian medical section is ~40. I think treating mj the same as alcohol is totally the wrong way of going about things. If you're impaired you shouldn't be driving period. However most mmj users have built up a tolerance and likely don't get impaired like new users. I know I don't amd many others agree that they drive as well or even better when medicated. I think it's fear mongering at its finest to suggest driving under the influence is equal to driving impaired. They are totally diffent things. If Canada adopts an arbitrary limit of thc in the blood like Washington state and others have done then any daily mmj user will be a criminal every time they sit behind the wheel regardless if they are truly impaired. You sound like you're under the influence of refer madness to be honest. If you think mj is so bad then don't use it.I didn't know that. I thought if you were a patient at some of them etc.
Frightened yes. I might be assuming incorrectly but most of you are pretty young. I'm not. I'm an early 50's father of two teenaged girls.
I love the new cannabis culture. I'm excited to be part of it. However...
Almost every single youtuber I see, instagrammer all encourage toking in cars and on the move. Wtf? It should be thought of as alcohol is. It alters your state of consciousness even in the slightest. And everyone says, "this is a great little pipe for stashing in your glove box". It's wrong. It's sending the wrong message. There's absolutely no one talking about this. Drinking responsibility has been around for a while now but for some reason it doesn't apply to weed. And now you're defending opening hundreds of these with easy access. Of course everyone's upset.
So yeah I'm scared.
I'm also conflicted.
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Toronto isn't Vancouver.
He's firmly in the "won't somebody think of the children" group. Fuck this refer madness pisses me off to no end. The only bad things about pot is getting caught with it or not having any.
GroErr
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Yeah, how much stock does he have now? Money's guiding policy no doubt.
nobody important 666
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Maybe if we were talking about rec market. Honestly smoking just makes me feel normal. For me i dont hide shit, why would i. Its medicine no different than having a bottle of antibiotics in the car. Btw avg age here is probably about your age im 44.I didn't know that. I thought if you were a patient at some of them etc.
Frightened yes. I might be assuming incorrectly but most of you are pretty young. I'm not. I'm an early 50's father of two teenaged girls.
I love the new cannabis culture. I'm excited to be part of it. However...
Almost every single youtuber I see, instagrammer all encourage toking in cars and on the move. Wtf? It should be thought of as alcohol is. It alters your state of consciousness even in the slightest. And everyone says, "this is a great little pipe for stashing in your glove box". It's wrong. It's sending the wrong message. There's absolutely no one talking about this. Drinking responsibility has been around for a while now but for some reason it doesn't apply to weed. And now you're defending opening hundreds of these with easy access. Of course everyone's upset.
So yeah I'm scared.
I'm also conflicted.
Chef420
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No it's not the reefer madness. It's people like you. You're too young to know but that's exactly what people used to say about drinking and driving. I'm actually better with a few drinks.
Don't assume that you know me. I'm the most liberal and laid back guy you could know. I've been smoking a long time, longer than you've been alive, and when I smoke, or vape, or eat I'm under the influence and impaired. I know this. Everyone knows this. You know this.
nobody important 666
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Great another im older so i know everything, just what we need around here.
Here's the things..been sayin it all along..
THEY CANT
To the extent that the zoning law is a prohibition based on the fact that it’s a dispensary, I say that that’s unconstitutional,” Tousaw said. “If you are in a retail zone, and you are operating a retail business, and the only problem is that it’s ‘illegal,’ pursuant to federal law, I say that federal law is unconstitutional and the Charter trumps. And that’s the end of the story.”
Thanks Tousaw!
Clearly he doesn't know shit.
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The Hippy
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redi jedi
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Hes probably got more stock in CGC than he does in Rogers
nobody important 666
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Dude your a tool. Did i ever say one thing about lps. No so dont but words in my mouth. You have been on other treads bitching about there gouging prices but then change your tune on this one. Fucking hypocritic.
I think he's more pissed that patients are abusing their mmar grows for profit. These shops are profiteers just as much as lp's are. Do any of them have compassionate prices? One or two maybe but $10 a gram seems par for the course at these places for quality mj. Untill we can all grow legally I don't like other "legal growers" abusing the system at my expense.
c ray
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NEWSTALK1010 @newstalk1010
A protest is planned outside #Toronto Police headquarters tomorrow at 10am over raids carried out at marijuana dispensaries.
JungleStrikeGuy
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There's no doubt about the 'pot star' demographic but treating a substance that is not alcohol like alcohol is wrong.I didn't know that. I thought if you were a patient at some of them etc.
Frightened yes. I might be assuming incorrectly but most of you are pretty young. I'm not. I'm an early 50's father of two teenaged girls.
I love the new cannabis culture. I'm excited to be part of it. However...
Almost every single youtuber I see, instagrammer all encourage toking in cars and on the move. Wtf? It should be thought of as alcohol is. It alters your state of consciousness even in the slightest. And everyone says, "this is a great little pipe for stashing in your glove box". It's wrong. It's sending the wrong message. There's absolutely no one talking about this. Drinking responsibility has been around for a while now but for some reason it doesn't apply to weed. And now you're defending opening hundreds of these with easy access. Of course everyone's upset.
So yeah I'm scared.
I'm also conflicted.
Cannabis does not metabolize in the same fashion as Alcohol(Ethanol) does, and is not made up of the same ingredients. The 0.08 blood level was arrived at as a general indicator of when someone should not be driving, there is no such consensus when it comes to the blood levels regarding cannabis, despite what some biotech firms hoping to patent the new 'standard' test that police departments will use. One case of 'drugged driving' was already thrown out of court for just this reason. Also keep in mind that being excessively tired and driving has been shown to 'alter your consciousness' in the same way alcohol does, and yet we don't have interlock devices for testing fatigue.
There are also a raft of studies showing cannabis legalization has had no impact (sometimes the reverse) of increasing highway fatalities, the 0.50ng/ml was some bullshit number I-502 in Washington had tacked on. Some studies indicate drivers are more likely to drive safely after ingesting cannabis, but I'd stop short of saying it's a great idea. The manner in which it is similar to alcohol is it's up to the individual to judge for themselves. Drunk driving is a huge, huge problem, and all the 'legal frameworks' aren't going to stop someone who doesn't care about endangering themselves or others from getting behind the wheel.
There are absolutely people talking about drugged driving. Blair has mentioned it ad nauseum, it's usually the first fear-mongering tactic thrown up by prohibitionists that the devil's lettuce will make everyone commit massive vehicular manslaughter, etc. We know from other legalized jurisdictions that the fear tactics don't match up to reality. Is it a good idea to do a sheet of shatter and drive? Not really. Should users be banned from driving? Also no. If legalization entails something like that, it will most definitely be seen as a s.7 violation/overreach and be tossed in court.
As far as 'easy' access, it's no easier for someone under 18 to get weed from a dispensary than to get cigarettes or liquor from the appropriate outlets (and far easier for them to get it from their local school dealer). I'm really not sure where this perception that dispensaries will kidnap kids and force them to smoke weed comes from, but it's just FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt). So I really don't know what to tell you here, I'd be more afraid of 'easy access' to both alcohol and tobacco, both substances proven to be far more damaging to humans / children than cannabis is.
And sorry, but your entire line of reasoning is either an appeal to age or emotion (think of the children). The facts don't back up the fear.