madininagyal
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Seems like they will sell ihg and mosca seed too would be good some thug pug too
Greenpoint seeds!!
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genuity
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Yeah,the first time I met gu,I knew he was going to be putting out seeds in the future. ..and that he did.
He is all good in my book.
2easy
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Most people are ruled by jealousy and greed it seems. They will find a way to talk shit about anybody who is brave enough to put themselves out there and have a go. They want them to fail because they know in themselves that they are not brave enough to try and want some sort of justification for that
Drew303fullsun
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I ran a pack of the gg4xmc last year and had 1 female make it. She was glue structure but taller. She yielded well and the nugs smelt like Dr Pepper or a fruity glue. She didn't herm on me but when I passed cuts to others she Hermed on them so I'm not sure what happened. I also have a pack of the cookiesnchem. I've seen the cookies and cream cut that gu found and used in the cross and its fire. Def looking forward to seeing what these are all about
akhiymjames
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Naw I don't think so should be he same mom and dad used so should be just like the first release. I'm sure he would answer so I'll hit him and see what he says
akhiymjames
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Tbh I just people don't like the mass chucking and selling the crosses before being fully tested. But at same time it's not like you paying $200 a pack so people know wassup. Can't complain about untested gear when they spent the bread on it. Plus the way he went about making crosses with two dads. Using tester males to sell seeds even the breeder releases the cross is not cool. The whole Topdawg deal I didn't mind too much cus he wasn't selling pure Stardawg and the Chem 4 x Stardawg is a Bx really but anybody can make that cross if the take a Stardawg pack. Now the ONYCD x Stardawg I could see JJ tripping about cus that's an actual cross but I know you should have some respect for other breeders work I get that but shouldn't get too upset about it when you create something great others want to copy just like with sneakers. But besides the Monster Cookies crosses the rest are flame. I had the Cookies n Chem on trade block but after seeing what comes from them again I gotta keep them lol
genuity
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That's the thing,all of them do mass chuking...all of them.
Some just more respected than others/bigger following.
If he was putting out F2's of others work,with just a new name..then yeah,that would suck.
End of the day,if it's hard for a person to find/get/($$) a hold of topdawg genetics, then greenpoint is a start.
Like ggg & thug pug genetics
Some just more respected than others/bigger following.
If he was putting out F2's of others work,with just a new name..then yeah,that would suck.
End of the day,if it's hard for a person to find/get/($$) a hold of topdawg genetics, then greenpoint is a start.
Like ggg & thug pug genetics
akhiymjames
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Yea you right gen I don't mind the mass chucking either that fine but with tester males from a cross that was never released??? Or before the breeder releases said cross?? And selling all said crosses made with males before anyone finishes a test. Not good for us buyers/growers.
If I was JJ I wouldn't care who used my gear. Just shows how good it is people want to use it to start their own work with it. Hell if I was JJ I wouldn't care if he did exact same crosses as me like the Chem 4 Bx and ONYCD x Stardawg lets see who better but that's just me. Everyone uses somebody work in their crosses just the way it is. I have no problems with Gu and his crosses except a lil scared of the Monster Cookies cross I got lol but they'll get a go eventually if someone doesn't take them from me. Stardawg and Polar Bear OG crosses are fire. I'm sure the Ghost Town are too.
Yea Thug Pugg getting up there with GGG prices with these IG auctions of the packs lol
2easy
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The older ways of breeding are dying out and for good reason IMO. Anyone old enough been growing long enough to remember buying all the inbred lines and such back in the day will also remember the high instance of runty inbred spastic seedlings. Slow growth etc.
Nobody seems to mention that shit when they talk about the older stuff. The first gen crosses have hybrid vigor and a bit of variation but variation is good. It means you get a shot at something unique in every pack. You want to do big bulk runs of a stable variety. Clone the special plants you find. Doesn't get much more stable than that.
Nobody seems to mention that shit when they talk about the older stuff. The first gen crosses have hybrid vigor and a bit of variation but variation is good. It means you get a shot at something unique in every pack. You want to do big bulk runs of a stable variety. Clone the special plants you find. Doesn't get much more stable than that.
D_Urbmon
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Even the MC crosses have some serious fire! I'd argue that one of the Bubba x Monster Cookies I grew was THE most potent herb I ever smoked. It just hit the brain in a way I've never felt before. IDK how to explain...... and I been blazin herbs for 20 years this year!!! I'd like to think I know my herbs.
Beemo
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2easy
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Are you kidding me. All that post does is makes me lose respect for top dawg.
What a whiney little bitch. If you release seeds and someone finds a male in those seeds they want to use to make some crosses that's their business.
It's not like he is using the exact same male top dawg is using, the offspring will be different.
Top dawg needs to buck up. He has basically resorted to acting like a spoilt child who didn't get his way. Bringing personal shit to the argument. That is disgusting.
If topdawg doesn't wat people using males from his seeds maybe he should start working fem seeds. I suppose he wouldn't want people to clone those though too
CannaBruh
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Didn't know anyone had exclusivity with the Chem lineage....
Wasn't JJ one of those in the Chem 101 thread trying to figure out the back to birth story... so he too is working with someone's work?
Aren't we all?
As Dj Short once said.... "various unethical opportunists"
Wasn't JJ one of those in the Chem 101 thread trying to figure out the back to birth story... so he too is working with someone's work?
Aren't we all?
As Dj Short once said.... "various unethical opportunists"
Beemo
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its called respect...
if someone is selling the same lineage as the other person, that person is undercutting the other persons hard work...
just like buying fake louis V or DG from china....
and i believe that stardawg (m) cut was giving to him... not from seed...
EDIT: but alteast gu isnt selling them at a premium
Beemo
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better late than never
plus i've heard rumble about this before from other breeders(not just top dawg)... now i see for myself
akhiymjames
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All that Topdawg shit is old news last year. I don't know what JJ expects when you create good stuff it's gonna be used in other crosses. He expects no one to breed with Stardawg??? As I said before didn't have a problem with this at all I know there's some respect stuff with it I get that but he gave the credit where it was due. Gu not the only one using Stardawg to breed with that you can buy. I guess all those breeders are shady too. And Gu stated the male came from first release of Stardawg he bought but it doesn't matter no line is exclusive to anybody just give credit where it is due
2easy
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you know whats really funny. i hadnt had much to do with topdawg. heard a few things around and about but never really looked into it. saw what Gu was putting out and it peaked my interest. i googled stardawg started liking what i saw and it really peaked my interest in topdawg genetics.
you cant buy publicity like that. someone using your strain in there own crosses is a mad sign of respect.
you cant buy publicity like that. someone using your strain in there own crosses is a mad sign of respect.
Beemo
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didnt know that.... if thats tru, he should do what he wants wit it...
but it is eff up that he sells some of the EXACT same crosses as top dawg... atleast do your own thang wit it....