bodhi seeds

[1kemosabe]

Got 4 boys myself.. Still trying for a girl. I will say,, it sounds as if raising boys is much easier. I dont have a girl , so i really cant say, but im 99% sure boys are prob easier.

 

[genuity]

@Bodhi

 

[kmog33]

Bodhi Gogi X ssdd tester engage. Less than 48 hours from drop

meanwhile my personal strain and the Ames bodhis continue to try and keep up

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[hellraizer30]

I think the lesson here is to order only where its legit! This issue will only result in one outcome and thats them giving mundane excuses and the fact is if they do give in and replace said missing seeds you still will not be able to verify there real. Open breeder packs = bird seed imo.

Glg/jbc/shoe/lama/svca are trusted venturing outside that circle is just asking for trouble

 

[1kemosabe]

The MWS reply seemed pretty strait up and honest Imo.. Although i personally wouldnt order from them for the specific taped up open bean bag reason. I would order from them if i needed singles or if they fixed the full pack ordeal. As said before, most likely they have plenty of unopened packs . if someone orders a full pack. It should be a "full pack" (unopened). If its the last beans in stock and they have to put 2 open packs together to make 1 full one. Than simply message the custy and let them knw whats up.. Otherwise MWS sounds pretty legit. Waaaaay beter the kangaroo nutz folks were getting..

 

[limonene]

Well whatever is causing this I can appreciate it.

Seeds were delivered today. Havent been home yet to see for myself. Will post photos later.

Very impressed with Jamesbean. Mailed it out Saturday morning. Received in Massachusetts on Tuesday.

Will definitely shop here again.

TDT took a week just to mail out my order.

Attitude and MWS were around 8 days from order which beat out TDT and they had to go through customs.

i wish this had been my experience.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Q: IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO ORDERED A FULL "11 BODHI SEEDS" PACK FROM MWS WHO RECEIVED MORE THAN 11 SEEDS?



3 different excuses as to why our packs have been opened:

#1 applies to @HALIFIRE
#2 meant for @akhiymjames
#3 to explain my opened pack.

My opened pack arrived in January of this year and I kept my mouth shut until I saw that @HALIFIRE had packs that had been opened and was asking if any others knew what was up.

Now, @Midweek Song , I have not said, nor am I now saying, that you are ripping us off; however, when I ordered an 11 pack (which is understood to be full pack) of Bodhi: TE remix v2 and it had been opened and re-taped, then at the very least you took one thing from ME: my excitement.

Yup. Simple as that, my Bodhi experience was tainted. Now, if I do a breeding project w this pack, then should I include an asterisk?

TE Remix V2*
*Pack was opened but MWS says it's legit.

Let's say all of your explanations of opened packs are truthful. Then, with the inclusion of your "crushed seeds" excuse, you should, at a bare minimum, have on your website a very visible DISCLAIMER: EVERY BODHI PACK OPENED BY US.

Additionally, let's say I want to resell my pack to someone else at some point. When they receive their pack from me and are like "WTF, it's been opened and re-taped!" I should just be able to say "No worries, Lewis said it's legit!"

I, along with @HALIFIRE , paid extra for Stealth/Insurance and my pack arrived in a container that was already crush proof...so that seems strange to me you'd take time to repackage every Bodhi pack when it would be unnecessary/redundant for customers who get stealth shipping.

@Amos Otis How is this analogy: It is like they are opening up our baseball card packs, and how do I know they haven't removed Ken Griffey Jr. and replaced with Mackey Sasser?!!

Further, Amos, I believe that if Bonza had came here and explained your snafu as eloquently as Lewis here did...I would have totally bought their ONE explanation over MWS' s THREE excuses/explanations. But that's just me.

Good points. Lewis seems like a good guy, and I'd be shocked to find out that he's *knowingly* scamming folks, but he can't be everywhere at one time, and who's to say that the cats he has sorting beans are as honest as he is.

Bottom line: if you order a pack, you should get an unopened pack that hasn't been messed with.

 

[akhiymjames]

I honestly believe that MWS is legit like I said before they get new and restocked on gear that other overseas banks don't get. May not be the whole new lineup but it's a few and Attitude and others ain't getting them. Don't think they would be getting this stock if they aren't legit. But there is something happening and it needs to be addressed. Either the extra beans are being taken out to sell or too many packs are getting opened for single sales when it shouldn't. Best bet would be to designate a certain amount of packs for single sales and store them in different location then the full packs. That way when ordered person in inventory goes to the full pack inventory to pick full pack orders or single seeds to pick single seed orders. As for the crushed seeds issue I don't know but if they are getting sent in tins what's the need to open the pack?? I never get stealth anyways but I can see if they are taken out to get hidden in a place for stealth but if sent in tin no reason they should be opened. Here for hoping things gets better cus tbh they are a place to go to and get beans that places don't have.

Also I know Bodhi been doing the packs like that forever but I think he should change at least put the tamper proof void seal on them. Or heat seal the top of the pack like GGG does. The gold seal with lineage on it can be finessed to make it look like it was never touched.

 

[genuity]

If a seedbank is paying up front for stock,then they can sell them how they want..

If a seedbank is on consignment,then they need to follow the directions of the breeder.

 

[shorelineOG]

Once a seal is broken it should have never been sold as a breeder pack. Bad for the customer, breeder and the seed bank.

 

[HALIFIRE]

I personally have no problem with @Midweek Song protecting the beans, in fact it's appreciated... but as previously suggested please don't employ a method that involves opening the packs to do so.

Put the Bodhi pack IN the plastic casing rather than vice versa. Then at least I can pretend my pack is pristine and unopened.... even if it was.

As with everything else in life... caveat emptor.

Edited to Add.
Also consider the following @Midweek Song.

If it isn't feasible to change your processing procedures of combining packs due to warehouse logistics as stated, then consider this change. All packs opened (on purpose or by accident) are then labeled as single seeds in the inventory system, which are categorized separately from full packs. Consumer will know if it's 11 singles that's left in stock or a full pack.

 

[Phatlewtz]

I think I'm going to shock the m'fin' world of RIU and not have a statement about the above mentioned incidents, that may or may not have happened with or without my prior knowledge or consent! Boom goes the dynamite!

 

[OutofLEDCloset]

I think the lesson here is to order only where its legit! This issue will only result in one outcome and thats them giving mundane excuses and the fact is if they do give in and replace said missing seeds you still will not be able to verify there real. Open breeder packs = bird seed imo.

Glg/jbc/shoe/lama/svca are trusted venturing outside that circle is just asking for trouble

I know jbc . What are the other banks?

I have three teenage daughters. Best turmoil I've ever experienced.

 

[OutofLEDCloset]

Tried jbc and wouldn't take card. Any ideas?

 

[Amos Otis]

@Amos Otis How is this analogy: It is like they are opening up our baseball card packs, and how do I know they haven't removed Ken Griffey Jr. and replaced with Mackey Sasser?!!

.

It's better than the pizza analogy, but not by much...sorry.

One Bodhi goji bean from a pack of gojis, has no visible way of letting the viewer know if it's more valuable than any other goji bean in the pack. So any 4 are as good as any other 4 from the pack to make an 11 count. They are all gojis if MWS is to be believed. On the other hand [a] there's no reason to open a pack of baseball cards, is there? - or are you suggesting they are pick and mix baseball card sellers? MWS, because they sell singles, has a reason. Some folks don't like the reason, but that doesn't mean that it's not legit.

Further, Amos, I believe that if Bonza had came here and explained your snafu as eloquently as Lewis here did...I would have totally bought their ONE explanation over MWS' s THREE excuses/explanations. But that's just me.

It's actually apples and oranges. Bonza sold beans it did not have, and for all the shuck and jive and dodge and feints, the rep never explained why. MWS's reply worked for me. It doesn't have to work for you - I still get paid @blowincherrypie

BTW @ForRealz .... what exactly was Bonza's one explanation?

 

[Lex Talioniss]

Not that I really care but @Amos Otis, I think the baseball card pack analogy works perfectly. Every seed is like a seperate card pack. Each one could contain something rare. So MWS could be taking something amazing away from each customer that orders a full pack and recieves an open peiced together pack. If you think about it that way though, then MWS could be replacing a dud with a rare. Either way though everybody should just joe dirt this situation and just keep on keepin on.

 

[Amos Otis]

If you think about it that way though, then MWS could be replacing a dud with a rare..

....or...a goji w/ a goji.

 

[Lex Talioniss]

@Amos Otis are all gogi's keepers though? I know it's kind of up to personal preference anyways but I'm sure there are phenos individuals want more than others.

 

[RootzGemini]

MWS going forward, should be proactive if they put themselves in the same situation again, find communication with the customer once the problem is discovered before it is sent, and throw in some beans from the same breeder the issue happened. People in the real world do not usually buy items in open boxes, unless they could view the contents first, unfortunately these contents take months to review.

Human error is a scary thing, I love my fellow brothers and sisters, but ish happens and it happens too often. Absent minds are everywhere and you could have 8 traquils and 3 who knows.... you should be compensated acorrdingly for their mistakes... but I would feel confident you got what you paid for, actually I'm jealous. If they were snakes, they would peel back the label and replace, they probably rip them to identify the singles and ripped more than one. Much better response than bozo

 

[ForRealz]

It's better than the pizza analogy, but not by much...sorry.

One Bodhi goji bean from a pack of gojis, has no visible way of letting the viewer know if it's more valuable than any other goji bean in the pack. So any 4 are as good as any other 4 from the pack to make an 11 count. They are all gojis if MWS is to be believed. On the other hand [a] there's no reason to open a pack of baseball cards, is there? - or are you suggesting they are pick and mix baseball card sellers? MWS, because they sell singles, has a reason. Some folks don't like the reason, but that doesn't mean that it's not legit.



It's actually apples and oranges. Bonza sold beans it did not have, and for all the shuck and jive and dodge and feints, the rep never explained why. MWS's reply worked for me. It doesn't have to work for you - I still get paid @blowincherrypie

BTW @ForRealz .... what exactly was Bonza's one explanation?
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Im glad you are happy buying single seeds from them, brother, but You have put Your trust in them when You purchased a single seed. I, on the other hand, trusted that They could get My whole pack from Bodhi's hands to mine w/o all the f@#k-ery.

And Im happy to walk you through the analogy:
1) No two seed packs (baseball card packs) are the same because each contains a different assortment of seeds (baseball cards). Some seeds will be male or female, there will be keeper phenos (Ken Griffey's) and not as keeper phenos (Mackey Sasser). I would prefer the assortment of seeds (cards) be ordered by the breeder (card manufacturer) rather than by MWS (7 Eleven) when I buy packs.

And/Or

2) It is possible @Midweek Song takes from Bodhi pack (baseball card pack) a seed (baseball card) that has a more mature, fertile appearance to give to the single seed buyers, because your 1 seed is 100% of your order and it is important yours germinates while my 11 beans are the left over randoms because if a few of my 11 dont germinate not such big deal because I still get 80% or so germ rate; and, in that process the vigorous seeds (Ken Griffey's) are taken and replaced by weaker seeds (Mackey Sasser).

And I brought up the Bonza thing b/c you were ready to draw and quarter them and I had your back when: a) have you grown your lucky charms yet? How can you say for certain they arent real?
And
b) I know my pack Was opened b/c MWS admitted to taping it yet you are all pro-MWS.