Are cobs worth it?

[a mongo frog]

in a few areas around the country they are banning hid lights for growing

No there not. Sadly the number one one reason is because led/cob lighting doesn't have a strong hold yet. All you have to do is walk into a gardening store and see what they sell for lamps.

 

[a mongo frog]

wrong .. in my area we are under 2000/lb unless its magical.

Well of course. That goes for any product. Keep your garden up and you won't even be able to keep your shelves stocked.

 

[PurpleBuz]

No there not. Sadly the number one one reason is because led/cob lighting doesn't have a strong hold yet. All you have to do is walk into a gardening store and see what they sell for lamps.

yes they are its creeping in a few silly places. local legislators are becoming concerned about fire hazards, BHO sky rockets, unsafe grow houses etc. Its not a ban on selling hid lights, its targeted at grow houses.

 

[a mongo frog]

Its not a ban on selling hid lights, its targeted at grow houses.

And they find out your a grow house how?

 

[captainmorgan]

And they find out your a grow house how?

Helicopters with FLIR in my area,they slowly circle neighborhoods looking for heat signatures,and I'm in a med state. As soon as the weather got nice here they started up,later in the summer they will be looking for outside grows with the copters.

 

[Yodaweed]

That's easy to enhance since the uva/actinic blue requirement is low. BUT not absolutely needed, cause flowers grown under cobs are pretty dammed frosty as is.

if your talking about UVB/UVC, hids don't put much if any in the canopy because of the protective UV blocking glass.

So YOU STOP THAT

Who uses glass...lol...my reflectors are open air and I use a 14,000 BTU air conditioner to cool.

 

[Yodaweed]

wa state is forcing 90% of the medical dispensaries closed and forcing most real medical growers,providers into the underground.

prohibition has been reborn even before prohibition ended.

wa state is forcing 90% of the medical dispensaries closed and forcing most real medical growers,providers into the underground.

prohibition has been reborn even before prohibition ended.

Yeah the max is 12 per household no matter what, they are getting stricter and stricter , next step is to just outlaw home grows.

 

[captainmorgan]

As soon as it's rescheduled in DC they will try to get rid of personal grow rights across the country to complete the corporate take over.

 

[a mongo frog]

Helicopters with FLIR in my area,they slowly circle neighborhoods looking for heat signatures,and I'm in a med state. As soon as the weather got nice here they started up,later in the summer they will be looking for outside grows with the copters.

Yea its not like that in California. Every single house has an out door grow here. I mean every single house. FLIR with no warrant?

 

[RuRu.The.Half.Elf]

That's easy to enhance since the uva/actinic blue requirement is low. BUT not absolutely needed, cause flowers grown under cobs are pretty dammed frosty as is.

if your talking about UVB/UVC, hids don't put much if any in the canopy because of the protective UV blocking glass.

So YOU STOP THAT

Who uses glass...lol...my reflectors are open air and I use a 14,000 BTU air conditioner to cool.

I think purplebuz is referring to the bulb glass itself. From the last time I checked there are a few (unprotected arc tube) cmh that allow uv transmittence.

 

[Yodaweed]

I think purplebuz is referring to the bulb glass itself. From the last time I checked there are a few (unprotected arc tube) cmh that allow uv transmittence.

I don't use a CMH I use a hortilux blue MH between two hortilux super HPS, which has quite a bit of UV light.

http://eyehortilux.com/products/specific/600w-Hortilux-Blue

http://eyehortilux.com/products/htl-hps/PerformanceSpecs/lu600shtlen/66710

 

[PurpleBuz]

I don't use a CMH I use a hortilux blue MH , which has quite a bit of UV light.

http://eyehortilux.com/products/specific/600w-Hortilux-Blue

great 400-700nm spectrum, but amounts of UVC and UVB are a different story, two layers of glass.

 

[Atulip]

I never noticed this before.

http://eyehortilux.com/products/CHPS600-PerformanceSpecs.aspx

Ceramic hps?

 

[Yodaweed]

great 400-700nm spectrum, but amounts of UVC and UVB are a different story, two layers of glass.

Guess you got problems reading a chart, that chart starts at 380nm .

 

[PurpleBuz]

Guess you got problems reading a chart, that chart starts at 380nm .

and where does UVB start and end ?

 

[Yodaweed]

I never noticed this before.

http://eyehortilux.com/products/CHPS600-PerformanceSpecs.aspx

Ceramic hps?

oops sorry I gave the wrong link, I don't use those never heard of a ceramic hps...

http://eyehortilux.com/products/High-Pressure-Sodium/Super-HPS

 

[Yodaweed]

and where does UVB start and end ?

280-315, those super blue mh are known for increased UV light so I don't understand why you insist on arguing? Maybe you just cant help defend LEDs, but you are wrong in this case

 

[PurpleBuz]

280-315, those super blue mh are known for increased UV light so I don't understand why you insist on arguing? Maybe you just cant help defend LEDs, but you are wrong in this case

I was talking about UVB and UVC that's all I agree the bulb combos you listed have UVA,actinic blues. and I agree that cobs don't have anything in those ranges. but just like you can supplement HPS with a MH, leds can be supplemented with any of those missing wavelengths and do it with at least an overall energy\heat saving over 30%.

so whos defending what and just what am I wrong about ?

 

[RuRu.The.Half.Elf]

oops sorry I gave the wrong link, I don't use those never heard of a ceramic hps...

http://eyehortilux.com/products/High-Pressure-Sodium/Super-HPS

I used and about to reuse Phillips ceramalux.

I want to build my led light so bad. Still slacking.

 

[Yodaweed]

I was talking about UVB and UVC that's all I agree the bulb combos you listed have UVA,actinic blues. and I agree that cobs don't have anything in those ranges. but just like you can supplement HPS with a MH, leds can be supplemented with any of those missing wavelengths and do it with at least an overall energy\heat saving over 30%.

so whos defending what ?

I supplement my LEDs with UV-B light, I got a 18% phosphor boost UV-B light for my LEDs and also have far red in my LEDs, COBs are cool, but they got a ways to go before they are better than either MH/HPS combos or LEDs with supplementation.