abe supercro
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Who the fuck cares, that fatass isn't half the man Prince was.
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WeedFreak78
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Drugs, no drugs. ....what's it matter? How anyone could let that one of his life aspect overshadow his talent is beyond me. It's sad many will cast him off as just another junky now.
Chunky Stool
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Prince only made one decent album. He had a few hit singles after Purple Rain, but overall his music sucks.
I don't know anyone who owns more than two of his albums. Seriously.
I don't know anyone who owns more than two of his albums. Seriously.
bluntmassa1
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I honestly don't know anyone with a single album or even a single song of his. Lol
I don't get the big deal I didn't know the guy I like Nirvana and Sublime but I don't give a damn about them personally junkies make pretty good music. Damn sure nothing to get emotional about. Lol
abe supercro
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That's understandable coming from you both, you're not artists, more of fartists than anything else.
abe supercro
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Post some good music, whiner.
abe supercro
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Here's a good article -
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tyler.durden
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Most people don't know the difference between something they personally like, and objective quality. A lot of people I run across, usually millennials, talk about how much classical music sucks. Beethoven, Mozart, Brahms, it all sounds the same to them. Objectively, their music is incredible and absolute genius composition. There is some of it I don't dig personally, but I can quantify why it is quality. Iow, I like some art that is pretty shitty quality, and I dislike some that is amazing in terms of composition and development. Musicians and artists can easily recognize the genius of Prince and his music: the structure, composition, knowledge, inspiration, and development that went into it. They may not dig all of it personally, but they know why it is quality art. To declare something sucks should require more than just, 'I don't like it!' One should be able to quantify why it sucks. You obviously don't care for his music, but it certainly does not suck...
Chunky Stool
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Artist = shitty music?
Um, no.
Prince also played several instruments; none of them well.
He couldn't even act worth a shit. Where did all of this misguided hero worship come from? As a musician and "artist", he was mediocre at best.
tyler.durden
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Are you an accomplished musician? If you google, 'Was Prince a great guitarist?', you will find hoards of examples and quotes from other great guitarists and pro critics that say absolutely he was. He made it to the top lists of the greatest guitarists in credible guitar magazines, including Rolling Stone's 100 greatest of all time. He was also an amazing keyboardist and drummer. This is verified by his amazing musicians and peers. There is an objective criteria of what makes a great instrumentalist, and he certainly makes those lists. You know more about guitar than the great guitarists that praised him? What about his guitar playing was mediocre in your view? It doesn't seem like you know what you are talking about...
Chunky Stool
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I trust my ears, not "experts". Technical difficulty does NOT equal quality.
Prince is no Jimi Hendrix, BB King, Thelonius Monk, etc.
Again, he made one good album and his sales clearly reflect this. I bet Mozart sold more albums per year before Princes' death! Ha! Autocorrect tried to change "princes" to "princess", which would be more accurate...
abe supercro
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HelpHub
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I'm not even gonna link it 'cause you will either find it if you want to watch it or not but Price's solo on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" during the Hall of Fame ceremony is legendary. He played on the same stage with George Harrison's son and his son was BEAMING through the whole performance because it was so beautiful of a solo on his Dad's song.
When Price threw his guitar up at the end, it never came down. God reached down and said, "I'll give this back to you later my son."
Oh fuck it, I made it easy for you. Watch or not.
When Price threw his guitar up at the end, it never came down. God reached down and said, "I'll give this back to you later my son."
Oh fuck it, I made it easy for you. Watch or not.
dannyboy602
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i'm just let down a little bit. when I first heard he died but it wasn't drugs I was like yeah good for him...he was more of a roll model...but now i'm just bummed....he was just like every other musician who died from excess. not a role model after all.
guess I shouldn't be surprised. he was a dam good artist though...drugs or no...you can't take that away from him
guess I shouldn't be surprised. he was a dam good artist though...drugs or no...you can't take that away from him
tyler.durden
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Let's see if the facts agree with you -
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7356812/prince-sets-record-five-albums-top-10-billboard-200
Prince is the first act to concurrently chart five albums in the top 10 of the Billboard 200 since the list merged its previously separate mono and stereo albums charts into one overall list in 1963.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/267411/ask-billboard-prince-of-album-sales
Prince enjoyed many of his most popular albums before the advent of SoundScan data in 1991. So, first, let's look at his top-certified releases according to the Recording Association of America (RIAA):
"Purple Rain (soundtrack)" (1984), 13-times Platinum
"1999" (1982), 4-times Platinum
"Around the World in a Day" (1985), 2-times Platinum
"Diamonds and Pearls" (1991), 2-times Platinum
"Emancipation" (1996), 2-times Platinum
"Batman (soundtrack)" (1989), 2-times Platinum
"Musicology" (2004), 2-times Platinum
The RIAA tallies Prince's overall sum at 39.5 million units certified.
According to Nielsen SoundScan, here are Prince's top-selling albums, again, since 1991:
2,548,000, "Purple Rain (soundtrack)" (1984)
2,462,000, "Diamonds and Pearls" (1991)
2,047,000, "Musicology" (2004)
1,715,000, "The Hits 2" (1993)
1,618,000, "The Very Best of Prince" (2001)
1,433,000, "The Hits 1" (1993)
1,080,000, "The Love Symbol Album" (1992)
Since 1991, Prince, including his totals with the Revolution and New Power Generation, has sold 19.9 million albums, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
This data is diametrically opposite of what you stated, he is one of the best selling artists of all time. And these lists don't even take into account the hundreds of millions of dollars he made with his many, many internet only albums. Again, you cannot quantify why Monk, Hendrix, and King (all great artists) are quality guitarists, and why Prince is not. So, your argument comes down to, "I don't like it!" Yours is an uneducated and amateur opinion, and I've proved that your 'facts' are bogus. You learned something new, which is great. You are certainly welcome to your amateur opinion, and now we can all see it for what it is. Relatively worthless...
tyler.durden
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Awesome, love that performance. Here's Prince playing a Red House, nice Hendrix cover. Judge his guitar aptitude for yourselves...
tyler.durden
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Mediocre pianist? I think not -
abe supercro
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We can't really judge that he was using drugs to get high.
The guy had pushed his body to the limit, was in his late 5os and had multiple surgeries. He may have only been trying to mitigate his pain and built up a drug tolerance. I don't look at at him negatively whatsoever. Who am I to judge? Ppl can still overdose using pharmaceuticals medicinally, especially with certain drugs like Fentynl. We're just conditioned to assume that someone overdosed means they automatically were a junky... naw man, not in all instances imo. Never underestimate how much physical pain someone is in.
abe supercro
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@dannyboy602 I really enjoyed another artist who was in significant pain, Spaulding Gray, who died by suicide. His pain was unbearable and he deliberately ended his life by jumping off a bridge into a river. Surely that can't be any better than someone that tries to manage their physical pain the best they can. Prince wasn't known to be a rock-star-partier, there's a huge difference between him and Keith Richards. The main one being Richards is still alive lol. You get the idea tho
While he was on vacation in Ireland in 2001, though, a devastating car accident fractured his skull and crushed his hip, sending Mr. Gray into a profound depression. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/09/nyregion/body-of-spalding-gray-found-monologuist-and-actor-was-62.html?_r=0
While he was on vacation in Ireland in 2001, though, a devastating car accident fractured his skull and crushed his hip, sending Mr. Gray into a profound depression. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/09/nyregion/body-of-spalding-gray-found-monologuist-and-actor-was-62.html?_r=0