3rd week into flower, bottom leaves spotting, turning yellow and fall off when I barley touch them.

Woyaboy

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Mixed Happy frog with Ocean forest/ Perlite/ Ewc/ Fox Farms dry fertilizer Fruit and flower. Top dressed with Fruit and flower when i flipped to flower. Temps in low 80's. Humidity in 40's. 2 Mars II 400's LED's. For the last 3 watering's I have given it Jack's Classic Citrus FEed 20-10-20. The last two waterings I have given it some cal/mag from Botanicare along with the Jacks. It started off at the very bottom on the oldest but it appears to be quickly spreading. I don't have PH meter, (i know i know) can ya'll recommend one off amazon?
 
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the leaves are turning yellow/brown and dying off but its really only the fan leaves not a whole lot of growth effected. how could thid be bugs? i dont have any bugs in or aroud my grow tent. so what could mine be image2(3).JPG
 
whitebb2727

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Take a couple pics and load straight to here.

Need a whole plant pic. A couple from different angles.

My first thought is its way too hot. Probably over water to.
 
coreywebster

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There are holes in some of your leaves, so thats one reason to check for bugs.
The bottom pic looks like some nute burn but could easy be PH fluctuations.
Are you splashing water on your leaves when you feed them?
Close ups are good but a wider shot of your grow showing full plant too is very helpful
 
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whitebb2727 said:
Take a couple pics and load straight to here.

Need a whole plant pic. A couple from different angles.

My first thought is its way too hot. Probably over water to.
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i water them on sunday and then on wednesday/thursday dependin on how dried out the soil is on wednesday night. maybe a little more than a liter each time per plant. its at 82 f in there right now. again maybe it could be my humidity as well. i have a thread where i posted all this as well image2(4).JPG image3(3).JPG image4.JPG image3(1).JPG image2(2).JPG
 
coreywebster

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And you can use any old PH tester like aquariums or pet stores sell until you can get a good one. Can not under estimate the importance of PH
 
coreywebster

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Only seeing some clawing down on a few tips but they are very dark. Wondering if theres some nitrogen toxicity going on.
Are you seeing clawing on the leaves most showing problems.
How big are those pots you have them in, in litres?
 
HydroRed

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Looks over fed to me.
Dark green leaves is usually an indication of an excess of N.
If there is an excess of nutrients the plant may lock up not taking any nutes from the root base. Instead of pulling the nutes it needs from the rootbase, it will begin leaching from the fan leaves causing what you are seeing. Nobody can say for sure by a cpl pics and no info regarding humidity/ppm runoff etc. Unless you are using RO water, I'd lay off the cal/mag too.
 
coreywebster

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Well I think he said it was lower leaves, I don't think its spotty enough for Cal which would be on newer or higher growth. Don't think its Mag either although in the right region I cant see the tiger stripe style yellowing. I could be very wrong.
Thinking 1 litre of water is not enough so could be root problems, Also not knowing PH could be causing multiple issues all at once. Could be a combo of N tox, Zinc def, and others.
Bit stumped until ph run off is checked and a few questions answered.
@CrazyTernz is there run off when you feed?
 
dazzyballz

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My pals big hydro got similar he flushed then cal /mag .but could be allsorts.thinkin bout it my pals actually died so im talking ruhbarb.
 
beppe75

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i'm no expert but i have seen something similar on my babies and i've always seen it in the lower leaves so i assume it is some kind of mold caused by high humidity...when i water lower leaves don't get that mush airflow and they are really close to the humid medium so they get affected by this kind of problem...same as your pictures....
usually they are weak leaves turning really yellow that do not resist well to the lack of air and high humidity... i just tuck them away....other than that it looks like your ladies are a little overfed....
i repeat... i am no expert but you may flush them really good....let them dry....meanwhile add a little bit of airflow to your grow room and start feeding them a new regimen... this is what i would have done...
 
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HydroRed said:
Looks over fed to me.
Dark green leaves is usually an indication of an excess of N.
If there is an excess of nutrients the plant may lock up not taking any nutes from the root base. Instead of pulling the nutes it needs from the rootbase, it will begin leaching from the fan leaves causing what you are seeing. Nobody can say for sure by a cpl pics and no info regarding humidity/ppm runoff etc. Unless you are using RO water, I'd lay off the cal/mag too.
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dude i have a whole thread of my own as i stated earlier in this one with all my information in it i was just lazy and wasnt looking to type it again haha. feel free to check it out. thanks for the info as well
 
Dr.Pecker

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Woyaboy said:
http://imgur.com/Ey5OKiY
http://imgur.com/3iw7lzQ
http://imgur.com/8NUyuVK
http://imgur.com/dJaR23g

Mixed Happy frog with Ocean forest/ Perlite/ Ewc/ Fox Farms dry fertilizer Fruit and flower. Top dressed with Fruit and flower when i flipped to flower. Temps in low 80's. Humidity in 40's. 2 Mars II 400's LED's. For the last 3 watering's I have given it Jack's Classic Citrus FEed 20-10-20. The last two waterings I have given it some cal/mag from Botanicare along with the Jacks. It started off at the very bottom on the oldest but it appears to be quickly spreading. I don't have PH meter, (i know i know) can ya'll recommend one off amazon?
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It could be a phosphorus problem (deficiency). The jacks classic might have killed off your soil or locked something out. Foxfarm has its own problems on its own without adding other stuff. Sorry your thread got hijacked.
 
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coreywebster said:
Well I think he said it was lower leaves, I don't think its spotty enough for Cal which would be on newer or higher growth. Don't think its Mag either although in the right region I cant see the tiger stripe style yellowing. I could be very wrong.
Thinking 1 litre of water is not enough so could be root problems, Also not knowing PH could be causing multiple issues all at once. Could be a combo of N tox, Zinc def, and others.
Bit stumped until ph run off is checked and a few questions answered.
@CrazyTernz is there run off when you feed?
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i have a ph tester and test kits and i test it every time its always between 5-7 and the nutes i use are ph perfect anyway so it always on point. some of the top leaves do have a few tiny spots here and there. like the bottom pic im uploading with this post. but im talking very tiny little dots of yellow and very scarce.image1(6).JPG image2(5).JPG the main ones curling up and dying and being brown or yellow are the bottom. i have a whole thread of my own with all of my information in it regarding humidity and temperature. the cal you were talking about seems to be the closest to what it looks like to me. I can upload more photos of the leaves if needed. when i just got home from work and checked the plants they looked a little better. the growth sites weren't as yellow they have a nicer shade of green to them. some of the bottom leaves were dead and i had to pull off but they were to far gone already to come back. so do you think i should just flush it and start over on the nutrients, this time just go with the smaller amount ive been trying to use to correct it?
 
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