The Dons' Organic Garden

DonBrennon

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Thanks DB, haha

Guess I should run a tighter schedule and ship around here,
Bunny is jus sharpening my game in this sense..

Haha



Im a big fan of SIP right now too, altho this is a hybrid style i call PLP cause i literally PLoP a fabric geo onto a shallow no till bed that's wider..

This allows two zones and two heights to water at, as well as all drainage and leechage just drips into the bottom carrier for the secondary roots, eliminating leaks while recycling water

Edit: we also get to take advantage of the air pruning up top while using the fabric on the bottom to act as a root-gateway into the the bottom of the container

I would actually employ SIP on deeper beds (over 12"), this one is pretty shallow, (like 7") so I opted for straight soil, which is mostly homemade compost.

Stumbled upon this theory when growing the 6 month black Forrest in a 3 gallon.. Had to add extra soil to kick start further growth and ended up yeilding a QP of organic landrace sativa dom herb off this beauty that was vegged under just a couple 13w cfl's!! This time I added the soil under vs on top, that's all, bro!
Great outlook to have, haha

Also liking the PLP idea, I've switched from known female cuts in 20 gals to reg seeds in 5 gals to do a bit of pheno hunting, I've currently got 21 plants in my main tent, waiting to show sex, which I'm hoping for 10 good females and 4-5 good males to flower in a different tent, but I was worried about lack of soil space for roots in the 5 gals...........this could be the answer I'm looking for. I've got plenty of spare soil, I might fill the bottom of my tent with soil to about 7" deep and throw a load of clover seed on it, then just 'PLoP' my 10 fems on top to flower, gives soil space and flexibility.
My only concern would be the humidity during flower, but plenty of mulch could sort that out and the bed itself could stay true 'No Till' using good quality mulch and letting the worms deal with it.
 

DonTesla

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Great outlook to have, haha

Also liking the PLP idea, I've switched from known female cuts in 20 gals to reg seeds in 5 gals to do a bit of pheno hunting, I've currently got 21 plants in my main tent, waiting to show sex, which I'm hoping for 10 good females and 4-5 good males to flower in a different tent, but I was worried about lack of soil space for roots in the 5 gals...........this could be the answer I'm looking for. I've got plenty of spare soil, I might fill the bottom of my tent with soil to about 7" deep and throw a load of clover seed on it, then just 'PLoP' my 10 fems on top to flower, gives soil space and flexibility.
My only concern would be the humidity during flower, but plenty of mulch could sort that out and the bed itself could stay true 'No Till' using good quality mulch and letting the worms deal with it.
Saving some soil, some how, some way, for the last 6 weeks of flower, whether you intro it up top or down below, PLP style, I think, is a really good way to contrôl "root pace", and avoid bounded ness ..

I find the humidity gets up to about 15-20% higher at the floor than the canopy, especially on water days, but my canopy is maintaining 38-40% rh while the floor stays around 55%.. Not that high surprisisingly

I like your clover idea on that bottom layer, ima have to get me some of this..
Do you find the biggest Benny is the nitrogen fixing or moisture control or overall micro-life improvement when u companion with WC?
 

DonTesla

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Day 15 for this Platinum Ice Sativa under 4 3500k vero's
Already just under six feet I'm thinking might have to supercrop like tomorrow!
She's really beasting with her extra 47L of no till soil underneath her, damn! -things are getting exciting now, its all about the last 6 weeks
 
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DonTesla

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Added organic lemon peels to the organic Cana coco this time to see if we get extra BOoM on de skin!

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One litre organic herb n shake

One litre organic coconut oil

Peel from one lemon

Bake for 60-90 mins in Pyrex at 240 degrees , strain cool and enjoy!

Using the leftover excess in chocolate no bakes, mmm
 

DonTesla

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Sucunat
Brand of pure organic dehydrated cane juice... with vitamins and minerals and molasses intact..
Its a Molasses replacement that Hy recommends.. What do you guys think- apparently pure molasses has some draw backs which I can say, I'm starting to feel the same way..

Example:

Over promoting the growth of bacteria and just bacteria

Leading to Nitrogen getting tied up/ requiring more nutrients

Plus the Mess

Stickiness, etc

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I picture Tablespoons of this being much much better to work with.. I shall test it!
 

DonTesla

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Stickier and stinkier at day 25 this round than when we harvested last round !
At day 56 they were still sweet, more than anything.
This time, its more pungent and super gluey

Note those fan leaves, @DonPetro et al!
 

DonTesla

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Sucunat
Brand of pure organic dehydrated cane juice... with vitamins and minerals and molasses intact..
Its a Molasses replacement that Hy recommends.. What do you guys think- apparently pure molasses has some draw backs which I can say, I'm starting to feel the same way..

Example:

Over promoting the growth of bacteria and just bacteria

Leading to Nitrogen getting tied up/ requiring more nutrients

Plus the Mess

Stickiness, etc

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I picture Tablespoons of this being much much better to work with.. I shall test it!
Found a better brand than Sucanat , its smaller, stickier, fresher, and less chunky.. It melted right into the castings quick and the garden loved it..
It's processed gently the same day its harvested and was wayyy easier to use than bsm.. I also scooped up organic coconut sugar which is loaded with vitamins and minerals.. I'm gonna try a tea with it as food stock as well and see how it reacts on some lesser plants!
Fuck molasses from now on!

haha I used cut pieces of coat hanger like that for my plants too. its easy
Very handy for getting an extra top or two into the game!! Just pinch for 72 hours along the stem and bam, say hello to my little friend !
 
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