Newbie Dwc Problems !!!

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colvic21

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h2o2 from hydro store oxyplus 12% thats all i could get i thought this maybe boron deficency as the new growth is curling and feels thick and the small brown blotches

should i half the nutes for now with full dose of root excelerator 2ml - 15l and cut out the multi-zen as i have this running at 15ml - 15l all recommended dose's
 
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Steve Man

Steve Man

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Budley Doright said:
So you have never saw any success with hydroguard? I would have to say it worked way better than a shock for me, I tried both. Also there are lots here that have had great success using it I think.
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I've seen success but I read more of people having problems still after using it than i have sat h202 or pool shock. Probably due inexperience with it more than anything.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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No boron, just root rot. Get that fixed and water cooled and you'll have it fixed. As for sterile or not, well that's your choice to make but I went through it months ago and had one piece of rotten root on a plant and it ended up being 6' with hydroguard and yes 66F Res water.
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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@colvic21 black buckets get hotter than white buckets quicker under lights. Unfortunately they still keep pumping them out in black. Cover them with white panda sheet or whatever you guys call it over there. You may find they drop a few degrees.
 
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colvic21

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Morning everybody

ok so opened up the lids today and yeah covered in brown again i have washed the roots again in h2o2 (oxyplus 12% 40ml- 5L cleaned the stones and soaked the air stones and airlines in the solution and washed roots with same strength solution. refreshed the nutes only using aqua flakes a-b and root excel and completeley removed the enzymes. PPM is now at 600 with 11ml of 12% H2o2 TO 15L hopefully this is the cure I m looking for.

should i run like this till it goes away then flush & refresh Nutes with hydroguard only no H2o2 ?

do you

with regards to air i would say there is 200 lph going to each res should i up this to 400 lph as i have an extra pump

Im struggling with the temp as i work a lot and cant be here constantly throwing ice packs in, has anyone got any ideas as to how i can help control this. as you as know this is stand alone. so with no way of pumping water around so un fortunatly a chiller is out the question for the moment ? Peak temp is 24c so I'm trying to loose 6c down to 18c Unless there is something like a fish tank heater which cools instead.

Was looking at the alien 4 pot last night with a chiller its a big investment but could save a lot of these problems in the future. but my biggest fear is noise as were on the second floor and the floor boards are thin as it is i have had to cushion the buckets as the noise from the air stones inside the buckets was terrible. the room Im in is above the lower community landing so it needs to be silent. I'm wondering if the Rdwc would be to loud and and an expensive mistake if it is the wrong system for me
 
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colvic21

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cheers for the info corey would bubble wrap and white sheets wrapped around work and get a desk fan down there.
 
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colvic21

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I really want to get this dialled in it seems like a really good system, growth is twice as big and twice as fast as the ones i have in soil it takes up less room and its silent
 
cantbuymeloveuh

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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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You need to control the temp., bottom line. and no don't mix H2O2 with hydroguard. I shut everything down in summer and head outside, to hard to deal with temps :( and the Suns free :). Small aquarium chiller that are used and working is what I'm looking for to extend season beyond what my passive chiller can do
 
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Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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Roots excel sometimes causes a little goop in the roots. It's not really anything to worry about. As long as you see new root growth, particularly the tips, and there is no bad smell, you'll be fine. From what I see in the pics, I wouldn't worry. I would treat it with some beneficials and keep an eye on it. Your res temps are a little high. If you can place your pump in a cool place that will help.
 
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colvic21

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ok guys i have my air pump strapped to the the ceiling of the tent should i put this outside now. i think i will try insulating these for the time being and order a tote and ice probes

could you guys give me an idea of what i will need to run a 2 plant tote

tote size, ice probe size how many many probes to one tote and what size air pump should i run to that tote,

in the future i want to run 4 plants but i will make another tote.

Need to get down to buisiness and keep maintenance as low as i can due to commitments.

will get this ordered tonight if i can

thanks for all the help guys
 
cantbuymeloveuh

cantbuymeloveuh

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you will need one five gallon tote... and 1 ice probe will do just fine...Its what I use and i have zero issues with temperatures
There are TONS of DIY tote setups....
 
Steve Man

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I think you are at the extremes I was at. Go to a pool store and get pool shock with hypochlorite. Weight out a gram per gallon of water you intend on using and finally use 2-3 table spoons every 3-4 days and every res swap. You won't have root problems after that. Do not run organic nutes tho they will be killed by the shock
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Heisenberg said:
Roots excel sometimes causes a little goop in the roots. It's not really anything to worry about. As long as you see new root growth, particularly the tips, and there is no bad smell, you'll be fine. From what I see in the pics, I wouldn't worry. I would treat it with some beneficials and keep an eye on it. Your res temps are a little high. If you can place your pump in a cool place that will help.
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Really??? The root clumping is for me a sign of rot but I'm not an expert :(. When I see mine clumping I know my roots are having issues.
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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Budley Doright said:
Really??? The root clumping is for me a sign of rot but I'm not an expert :(. When I see mine clumping I know my roots are having issues.
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Signs of root rot in DWC are mushy, smelly roots that stop growing. What I see is a few patches of discolored roots with new healthy root growth all around. If it were me I would treat with a microbe tea. I wouldn't even sterilize first.

Stop adding roots excel to the res. Use it plus the hydroguard plus some EWC to make a cheap tea. 2 gal water + 5ml roots excel plus 10ml hydroguard plus a golf ball sized chunk of EWC (or preferably Ancient Forest) plus a tablespoon of molasses, bubble for 48 hours and add to the res, 1 cup per gallon.

See my thread in the DWC section for more info, and I believe if you search youtube for "Heisenberg tea" you can see it being made.
 
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