Legalazation : Auma 2016 and MMRSA

Organicpoop

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I forgot, im in a very tiny area and we don't require or even have a business license.
Only the sellers permit that I dont have.
 

Organicpoop

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BOOM done,. business license, FEIN number, tomorrow I can get my
Fictitious Business Name AKA business license as its unincorporated we don't have business licenses.

EDIT: can any one tell me if I can apply for MMRSA with out no stinking lawyer?
 
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Rusty Shakelford

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Wait a Minute!! You say you have your business license, then the next sentence you say you dont need one. In unincorporated SD County, you dont need a business licence, but at that point you need to get the Sheriffs Approval. This means that you need to find a piece of property that is 1000 ft from EVERYTHING!, you then need to have the Planning Commission come out and Verify that the building is 1000 ft from a school, etc, etc, and is ZONED INDUSTRIAL... If you can find that Piece of property and get it verified, then you can get Sheriff approval, and you are THEN legal!! So as my example just pointed out, if you DONT need a business license, I would imagine you need something else that makes you LEGAL in your Local Jurisdiction. I cant imagine you can just get a Sales Tax ID Number and BOOM! Your Legal,,, Not bloody Likely... CHECK AGAIN for any LOCAL ISSUES in order to be LEGAL..
 

potroastV2

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Simmer down, Man! He is not in San Diego county, and many other locales have much more lenient methods. MMRSA will affect commercial medical use only, and it does not start for 18 months.

Your abuse of the caps lock make your posts sound like you are foaming at the mouth. Use a towel and wipe your face.

:mrgreen:
 

potroastV2

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Nice meltdown, have you forgotten to take your meds again?

You say you know the law, but then say that MMRSA hijacked Prop 215. That's what makes it obvious that you are NOT paying attention. Maybe my enunciation will get your attention. MMRSA was passed by the legislature, and it has been proven by the Supremes in Kelly that no legislation can change a Proposition.

Please stop spreading your false delusions.

:mrgreen:
 

Rusty Shakelford

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Whatev!!

Prop 215 was a Voter Initiative and REQUIRES a Voter Initiative to be amended..... Your SILLY to think just cause Legislators are/have amended it, that makes it LEGAL? Your Looking MORE and MORE like a SHEEP!!

Please stop bending over and taking everything a lame politician gives you without question or concern.
 

SomeGuy

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Mmrsa does infringe on prop215. It gives localities the right to place limits on patients grow area. It also calls for the dr recommending to be your primary care dr. The list goes on. There are many, many, patients in CA against both mmrsa and auma. I am for sure one of them. To say that opinion and interpretation of these new laws is wrong is bs. We will see if the legislation holds up when challenged in the ca supreme Court. Only a matter of time. Till then I guess I'll do my best in 100sqft...
 

Andrew2112

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Does mmrsa cancel out our rights as patients to collectively grow medical cannabis for our own use? I know this was legal under Prop 215 and SB 420 just as long as the collective didn't dispense cannabis no licenses were needed.
 

potroastV2

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No, mmrsa will not affect most patients. It establishes regulations for the commercial side of MMJ, and does not require a collective of 5 or fewer patients to be included in the licensing requirements.

So from now on, my collective will always be me and 4 other patients. :lol:

:mrgreen:
 

SomeGuy

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No, mmrsa will not affect most patients. It establishes regulations for the commercial side of MMJ, and does not require a collective of 5 or fewer patients to be included in the licensing requirements.

So from now on, my collective will always be me and 4 other patients. :lol:

:mrgreen:

What it does do is try to put regulations on prop215. It really cant do that. They proved it by throwing out sb420. I personally think mmrsa is BS. So is auma.

I can be a "collective" with as many as I want. I can use a much sqft as I need for me and those patients. If they want to change 215 it needs to be done as a voter initiative to have legal ground. I imagine we are going to have legal battles over this stuff for a while here in CA.
 

potroastV2

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Sigh ... so much misinformation!

Yes, you can have a collective with as many patients as you wish. Yes, you can grow the medicine in as many square feet as you wish, pursuant to State and local restrictions. What mmrsa does is regulate those actions if you want to supply more than 5 patients.

Yes, SB420 set up some guidelines that were not in Prop 215, and it took 6 years for the Kelly decision to deny the plant number limits it described. The Supremes did not "throw out" SB420, they only refuted the plant number limits. That 6 mature plant limit was the law for those 6 years.

So mmrsa is the law until a court denies it.

:mrgreen:
 

Organicpoop

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yeah I have EVERYTHING including a fictitious business name and corporation dating back 7 years
keep boxes of receipts and have all my employees on their own iOS time clock that deducts income tax,
My other friend even is interviewing an on site nurse who is also a chiropractor full time!


 

hyroot

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Sigh ... so much misinformation!

Yes, you can have a collective with as many patients as you wish. Yes, you can grow the medicine in as many square feet as you wish, pursuant to State and local restrictions. What mmrsa does is regulate those actions if you want to supply more than 5 patients.

Yes, SB420 set up some guidelines that were not in Prop 215, and it took 6 years for the Kelly decision to deny the plant number limits it described. The Supremes did not "throw out" SB420, they only refuted the plant number limits. That 6 mature plant limit was the law for those 6 years.

So mmrsa is the law until a court denies it.

:mrgreen:

mmrsa goes after doctors that give out recommendations ie procecuting them. It plainly says what the penalties are in mmrsa and auma. By that no one will.be able to get a rec and that's how they're getting rid of prop 215. At the same time it violates prop 215. It will be challenged in court.

several people that already have their local mmrsa licensing are afraid of their shop, lab, or grow going out of business because of distributor level price mark up , the 30% state tax, the 280e.fed taxes, and other fees. Land use permits, employees fees, Sq ft fees, etc .. They all think mmrsa will crash because the process will be too high in the shops and people will go to their local grower instead.
 

SomeGuy

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Unfortunately cchi is dead but that doesn't mean I automatically think auma and mmrsa are great... look who is behind the bills and what the real motives are. They have been trying to get rid of prop215 for years here. We need a class action lawsuit against ca IMO.
 

potroastV2

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mmrsa goes after doctors that give out recommendations ie procecuting them. It plainly says what the penalties are in mmrsa and auma. By that no one will.be able to get a rec and that's how they're getting rid of prop 215. At the same time it violates prop 215. It will be challenged in court.

several people that already have their local mmrsa licensing are afraid of their shop, lab, or grow going out of business because of distributor level price mark up , the 30% state tax, the 280e.fed taxes, and other fees. Land use permits, employees fees, Sq ft fees, etc .. They all think mmrsa will crash because the process will be too high in the shops and people will go to their local grower instead.
That's a whole lot of bullshit! You obviously don't know anything about mmrsa, because the licenses don't start until 2018, so you saying some people have them already is not true. It also sounds like you don't know the difference between medical use and adult use, so please keep your tinfoil hat opinions to yourself.

AUMA plainly states that medical patients will not have to pay Sales tax. The taxes established by AUMA will be for adult use sales.

:mrgreen:
 

Organicpoop

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That's a whole lot of bullshit! You obviously don't know anything about mmrsa,
:mrgreen:
I know lawyers offering "pre-enrollment" for $3000! for a law that I don't think even exists!
Another wanted $10,000 for what I dont even know but also a form of pre-enrollment.

I paid for actual legal advice, not snake oil.
 

potroastV2

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If that is mmrsa licenses that you are talking about, the laws were passed by the State legislature last fall. The licensing starts in 2018 though.

Also, mmrsa is only for the people who are working in the commercial industry of MMJ.

:mrgreen:
 
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