EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

abandonconflict

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I'm still voting for Sanders.
Unless he goes on a major write in campaign, your vote is not going to be counted. He has two options, he can quit, or run outside of the DNC, the only option for him outside of the DNC is Green. Instead of being obstinate and acting like he is being attacked, learn unity. Imagine Sanders on the Green ticket. His idea of trying to fix the DNC is the only reason the radical left never supported him. Fixing the DNC is like fixing an analog TV. Just let it rot, leave it behind. It's even more ridiculous considering he failed at fixing it. They rejected his platform ideas.

The only reason I care, is because we are so dangerously close to the point of no return on environmental catastrophe. That is the only reason I am trying to sway a DEMOCRAT right now. The DNC is not progressive. If you will not abandon the DNC, you are not progressive.
 

schuylaar

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Unless he goes on a major write in campaign, your vote is not going to be counted. He has two options, he can quit, or run outside of the DNC, the only option for him outside of the DNC is Green. Instead of being obstinate and acting like he is being attacked, learn unity. Imagine Sanders on the Green ticket. His idea of trying to fix the DNC is the only reason the radical left never supported him. Fixing the DNC is like fixing an analog TV. Just let it rot, leave it behind. It's even more ridiculous considering he failed at fixing it. They rejected his platform ideas.

The only reason I care, is because we are so dangerously close to the point of no return on environmental catastrophe. That is the only reason I am trying to sway a DEMOCRAT right now. The DNC is not progressive. If you will not abandon the DNC, you are not progressive.
I'm a registered independent and will keep my vote a secret:wink:
 

abandonconflict

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We're liberals. The democratic party abandoned us long ago.
Democrat party is a liberal party. That doesn't make it progressive. Sanders is progressive, but his commitment to the democrat party is folly. He will accomplish nothing there. If his followers go Green, he might run as a Green, if he doesn't, he will just endorse Shillary.

In other related news, climate scientists have declared a climate emergency.
 

ttystikk

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Democrat party is a liberal party. That doesn't make it progressive. Sanders is progressive, but his commitment to the democrat party is folly. He will accomplish nothing there. If his followers go Green, he might run as a Green, if he doesn't, he will just endorse Shillary.

In other related news, climate scientists have declared a climate emergency.
We're gonna have to agree to disagree on the notion that the democratic party is liberal, or has been at any time in this millennium.

Please explain the climate emergency declaration?
 

abandonconflict

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We're gonna have to agree to disagree on the notion that the democratic party is liberal, or has been at any time in this millennium.

Please explain the climate emergency declaration?
It depends how you define liberal but my guess is that you consider the word synonymous with 'left-wing'. Liberalism is and has always been a right of center ideology and can be as far as center-right. There is a slight overlap into 'just left of center', but only when it pertains to satisfying public outcry. In fact, per the actual definition of the term, right-libertarians are liberals, Rob Roy is actually a "classical liberal". Nixon is a great example of a liberal president. Obama and FDR also. Sanders is not a liberal, he is a progressive (left-wing), but he is serving the liberal agenda (objectively right wing) of the DNC.

The emergency is the jet stream shift which may signal the end of seasons as we know them.
 

ttystikk

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It depends how you define liberal but my guess is that you consider the word synonymous with 'left-wing'. Liberalism is and has always been a right of center ideology and can be as far as center-right. There is a slight overlap into 'just left of center', but only when it pertains to satisfying public outcry. In fact, per the actual definition of the term, right-libertarians are liberals, Rob Roy is actually a "classical liberal". Nixon is a great example of a liberal president. Obama and FDR also. Sanders is not a liberal, he is a progressive (left-wing), but he is serving the liberal agenda (objectively right wing) of the DNC.

The emergency is the jet stream shift which may signal the end of seasons as we know them.
Sanders is a political centrist in a right wing American political atmosphere. This is why he has my support.

Our planetary climate has been changing at an ever accelerating pace through most of my lifetime and I believe we'll begin to see some very serious disruptions in weather patterns.
 

schuylaar

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We're liberals. The democratic party abandoned us long ago.
Precisely.

I've been a registered indie since early 2015 in disgust of the DNC.

I didn't leave the party..the party left me in lieu of their own systemic right leaning agenda.

It's not very democratic to steal an election.
 
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schuylaar

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Yes folks, and we wonder why we can't get 'no fly; no buy' passed?:wall:

Yeeeesh..I wonder what she'd look like without all those fillers in her face?

 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Yes folks, and we wonder why we can't get 'no fly; no buy' passed?:wall:

Yeeeesh..I wonder what she'd look like without all those fillers in her face?

When the SCOTUS AND the FEC can't be bothered to enforce campaign finance laws or prosecute for outright bribery, our democratic system is broken.
 

londonfog

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Precisely.

I've been a registered indie since early 2015 in disgust of the DNC.

I didn't leave the party..the party left me in lieu of their own systemic right leaning agenda.

It's not very democratic to steal an election.
and how did registering Independent work out for you ?
Even Bernie was smart enough to run Dem. He also will be voting for Hillary
 

spandy

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and how did registering Independent work out for you ?
Even Bernie was smart enough to run Dem. He also will be voting for Hillary

How much money will Bernie make over his little presidential run?


I mean, he was't really in it to win it.
 
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