What is GH's KoolBloom powder and liquid nutrients for?

[chronicals77]

I never said nutes are first. My grow climate is optimal. If you dont believe thats 2.5 weeks flower thats your mistake. If pushing plants to perform to maxiumum nutrients are very important. You do not understand plants, minerals, and how plants use those minerals. I never said I get any 8lbs per 1000w. I said I get 2lbs per 1000w and I get it from ONE plant! Im not the only one that gets these results either. If you know how to grow you should be getting 2lbs per 1000w and 2.75lbs with co2 however I never seen 2.75lbs from one plant but 2lbs absolutely. My plants eat 700ppms a day. I dont care who believes it and who doesnt. I try to pass my knowledge to others and I get this bullshit. Keep blending in, I dont give a fuck! If your buds dont look like that at 2.5 weeks then its obvious you dont know what I know. Good nutes and a good program is just as important as temperature and humidity, light distance, ect.. Tell me im all wrong when I have the results to prove my claims. Ok. I can tell from just this bit of conversation that you dont know what you think you know. Match my results then we'll talk. Until then, PEACE!

 

[rkymtnman]

so you dont' want to talk about how plants dont' need root microbes or carbs?

post some pics of day 1 of 12/12 with date stamp and then day 17 and i'll believe you.

2 weeks after 12/12 and plants are just done stretching and beginning flower production.
are you counting day 1 as when you flip?

 

[chronicals77]

I just took this picture, just now. This is week 3 flower. No, you do not count week one of flower from the day you flip. Flip, then one week transistion as plants stretch. The next week is week one flower. Even still after a week transitioning pistils are just getting going. I have pistils showing 4 days into trans week. The pic you see is 3 weeks flowering, actually flowering. All plants need microbes to break down nutrients further and make them more readily available. Im sorry but its true. Ive been growing species of plants from all around the world for a long time. I appologize for the choice words but I get pissed off when I get called a liar and im telling the truth 100%. I dont have a date and time stamp because I use my phone. My current grow ive been recording everything and when its done in 5 more weeks I am going to post the journal. Everything I use and everything I do throughout the entire grow. Even the fact that I play classical music in my tent every hour the light is on. Music increases yield by 15%-25% depending on strain. Im sure you wont believe that either. Its ok, I know my results and so do a few choice people that know im not a liar. I just try to pass on what I know, if people choose to believe it and do it and get results themselves thats great. If not thats ok too, but please dont call me a liar.

 

[rkymtnman]

you don't. no way that is 2.5 wks from 12/12.

exactly what i said. no way from 12/12.

All plants need microbes

dude, i run a sterile reservoir. sterile as in nothing is alive. microbes are living organisms


you got me mad when you dissed Lucas formula. i can tell you have no idea of it's origins. you should do some research. it led to many nute companies (GH: floranova bloom when used at recommended dosage is the Lucas formula) copying the NPK ratio for Cannabis.

you grow some nice plants. i'll give you that. so do i. and at high elevation too.

Music increases yield by 15%-25% depending on strain.

yep, and mt dew used as a foliar feed increases yield by 18 to 28%. so there's that.

they need carbs right? according to you. lol.

 

[chronicals77]

Maybe I shouldnt have said need, plants dont NEED these things to live and produce. You have to understand I am talking about maximum potental and to push a plant to produce its 100% capability things like microbes, pk's, carbs, acids, mycorrhizae, (bulking and ripening agents) need to be used. I promise you Floralicious Plus, KoolBloom, Foranectar, and Diamond Nectar all work very well when used correctly. I have no doubt you grow nice plants, BUT I guarantee if you were to grow one time side by side the way I grow you would see exponential increase in yield and potency and much sooner and faster also. Go ahead and try it, i'll wait right here. Lol.

 

[chronicals77]

This was week one flower, plant was still stretching bud putting on buds quickly also. Week 2 if you count from day of flip but I dont because the first week is transition and plants stretch the most and put on very little bud in the first week after flip. Just like I dont start week one of veg until the plant recovers from transplant and begins to grow again. When im able to start packing nutes thats when I start day 1 veg. But the first week after flip is not week one flower, its transition to adapt to the change and to begin the stretch. Week one flower begins when plant actually begin putting on flowers. I promise Chief, I dont make the rules, I just obide by them. Well, mostly anyway. lol

 

[JJARTS]

My ph meter was giving me the wrong lecture and i didnt know, so i raise the ph when they didnt need it, more and more until I found next day that the meter sensor was malfuntioning but a this time my plants were yellowing and sick... how i be able to help then to heal and pass the stress, some buds look like they are rape because the white hair burn and change colors, i just start week four counting from the day I changed the lights to bloom...

 

[chronicals77]

My ph meter was giving me the wrong lecture and i didnt know, so i raise the ph when they didnt need it, more and more until I found next day that the meter sensor was malfuntioning but a this time my plants were yellowing and sick... how i be able to help then to heal and pass the stress, some buds look like they are rape because the white hair burn and change colors, i just start week four counting from the day I changed the lights to bloom...
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First your not in week 4 your in week 3, the first week after switch to 12/12 is transition then the next week when buds start getting bigger is week one flower. The best thing to do is just make sure your PH is correct now and if your using an agressive feed back off on the nutes maybe even by half and wait. Thats really all you can do and make sure your using Silica. If your not, you should be. Its one of the most important nutrients in indoor cannabis cultivation. Hope this helps!

 

[JJARTS]

First your not in week 4 your in week 3, the first week after switch to 12/12 is transition then the next week when buds start getting bigger is week one flower. The best thing to do is just make sure your PH is correct now and if your using an agressive feed back off on the nutes maybe even by half and wait. Thats really all you can do and make sure your using Silica. If your not, you should be. Its one of the most important nutrients in indoor cannabis cultivation. Hope this helps!

First your not in week 4 your in week 3, the first week after switch to 12/12 is transition then the next week when buds start getting bigger is week one flower. The best thing to do is just make sure your PH is correct now and if your using an agressive feed back off on the nutes maybe even by half and wait. Thats really all you can do and make sure your using Silica. If your not, you should be. Its one of the most important nutrients in indoor cannabis cultivation. Hope this helps!

Thank you, yes I using ArmorSi, i like the same line of nutrients you like, but i m using the maxi series...
Thank you for the advise, i going to reduce de nutrients ppm.

 

[chronicals77]

Your welcome, if your growing soil or coco you may even want to do a light flush of the soil with plain ph'd water to rinse some of the heavy nutes out. Wait for signs of recovery before heavy feeding again.

 

[rkymtnman]

in coco, you want to flush with a very light strength nute solution, not plain water.

 

[chronicals77]

in coco, you want to flush with a very light strength nute solution, not plain water.

Why? Ive never heard that.

 

[rkymtnman]

it keeps it from washing all the nutes out. in coco, you want to preload it with nutes before you use it. so if you flush with plain water, you take out too much of what has been built up in it.

i'm not adirt guy, but i've heard it's not good to flush soil with distilled or RO water. same principle. gets rid of too much

 

[chronicals77]

It takes more than one rinse with plain water to wash "all" the nutrients out. Ive been growing bonsai for a long time which are grown in basically gravel and have to be watered everyday and it takes over a week to strip the bonsai soil of nutrients. Coco and peat hold much more nutrients than bonsai soil. That said it would take more than one rinse to remove too much nutrients. RO and ditilled water is just pure water with little to no disolved solids so I dont understand the logic. One rinse wont remove nutrients to detrimental levels, even using a flush agent it doesnt remove it all.

 

[rkymtnman]

It takes more than one rinse with plain water to wash "all" the nutrients out. Ive been growing bonsai for a long time which are grown in basically gravel and have to be watered everyday and it takes over a week to strip the bonsai soil of nutrients. Coco and peat hold much more nutrients than bonsai soil. That said it would take more than one rinse to remove too much nutrients. RO and ditilled water is just pure water with little to no disolved solids so I dont understand the logic. One rinse wont remove nutrients to detrimental levels, even using a flush agent it doesnt remove it all.

in your experience, if you rinse once with plain water, how much ppms do you drop? so if your coco is at let's say 1.5EC and you rinse once, what is your runoff? how many times does it take you to get a basically 0 runoff?

 

[JJARTS]

Your welcome, if your growing soil or coco you may even want to do a light flush of the soil with plain ph'd water to rinse some of the heavy nutes out. Wait for signs of recovery before heavy feeding again.

I growing hydro, clay pelets in a 3.5 galons black buckets I got in home depot and a reservoir that I made myself with some 2×4 and a tarp, I use to create my own custom system depend the area I have, i flush with water just to clean a litle, give a break to the plants and prevent acumulation or cloging the pipes, hoses and feeders.

 

[Brandon Nebel]

Try the Kool Bloom on half of your plants and see if you can tell the difference. I can't. I have used it off and on over the years and can never see a difference. Straight Lucas formula seems to be all I need.

I agree. I use the flora nova bloom all the way from start to finish. I had originally bought the nova grow too until I did more research and discovered the lucas formula. Then I switched to the bloom at around week 3 in veg and have used the bloom ever since. I'm in week 8 of veg now and my girls are really happy. I have one runt of the little, she's a indica dominant hybrid so I didn't expect her to be as tall as the sativas, but she's finally coming around. The lucas formula is beyond easy especially with the nova series since it's a one part formula. All you "really " need is the nova bloom and you're set. However I do still add floralicious plus, sea green,and armor si. Lucas states it has enough ca and mg so no supplementation of that is needed. And so far so good. My girls are happy and never show any signs of nute burn.

 

[TheChemist77]

did years of side by side test of base nutes and additives,,, gh maxi series and nova series always came out on top.. maxi produces highest yields per cost.. koolbloom liquid did nothing compared with plants on maxi alone,, however the powder form koolbloom used for the last 2-3 weeks in flower caused swelling of buds, and finished plants 4-5 days sooner than plants w/out the koolbloom powder additive...

in my findings most additives or flower boosters did little in comparisons with plants grown properly using base nutrients only.. most additives are a waste of money imo, the base nutrients if dialed in correctly provide all the n-p-k needed for great buds,,powder koolbloom seemed to be the only exception increasing denseness and promoting ripening...
also most 3 part nutrients work great once you find the mixture that suits the strain your growing,,the directions on bottle are a start but u really need to know your plants and tinker with the mix till u get it wright...i no longer waste money on testing, i use gh maxi series, most always and the nova series on picky strains,,
i know the maxi and nova are suppose to be 1 part grow, 1 part bloom,,,however i found mixing the 2 parts for the first 2-3 weeks of flower stops early yellowing, then weeks 3-4 go full bloom raising the ppm each week till flush...
i used to have 30 or more different nutrients and additives,, now my shelves contain maxi grow, maxi boom, flora nova, flora bloom, koolbloom powder, gh kleen, ph up and ph down, and a bottle of cal mag that i rarely if ever use,,,i think its unopen...

be well n grow well to all

 

[mod37]

ok guys hope you are done killing each other. i have some things i need to ask. i am on the gh nuts micro/ grow and bloom. i am also trying pk starting week 3 through 7 in flower. i was planing to start koolbloom powder in week 7 and 8. can you tell me what if i am doing this wrong. i am watering for 2 min 5 times a day i dont water at night. 2 i change water every week and add new nuts every time. i try to get ppms to 1400. do i only add nuts when i change the water and add no nuts during the week or do i keep my ppms at 1400 thrwout the week by adding more nuts. hope i didnt confuse you lol. oh i have 6 tables and 2 1100 lights on each.with 25 gal res. i go through about 5 gal water every day. i think i am doing well hope to do better. this is the 1st time using kool powder.i want to keep this simple. and i am in now way as good as you guys are. try when you guys are fighting on here to remember that you have guys like me on here trying to learn from you. keep in simple and let us all reap the bens. thanks guys oh by the way near denver dont know if that matters when growing no air here lol. just wondering if i am doing this right. thanks for your help. by the way 77 your stuff looks awesome

 

[westcoast420]

ok guys hope you are done killing each other. i have some things i need to ask. i am on the gh nuts micro/ grow and bloom. i am also trying pk starting week 3 through 7 in flower. i was planing to start koolbloom powder in week 7 and 8. can you tell me what if i am doing this wrong. i am watering for 2 min 5 times a day i dont water at night. 2 i change water every week and add new nuts every time. i try to get ppms to 1400. do i only add nuts when i change the water and add no nuts during the week or do i keep my ppms at 1400 thrwout the week by adding more nuts. hope i didnt confuse you lol. oh i have 6 tables and 2 1100 lights on each.with 25 gal res. i go through about 5 gal water every day. i think i am doing well hope to do better. this is the 1st time using kool powder.i want to keep this simple. and i am in now way as good as you guys are. try when you guys are fighting on here to remember that you have guys like me on here trying to learn from you. keep in simple and let us all reap the bens. thanks guys oh by the way near denver dont know if that matters when growing no air here lol. just wondering if i am doing this right. thanks for your help. by the way 77 your stuff looks awesome

You said your in tables so I assume your doing a flood drain setup? What medium are u running? Is this a dtw setup or recirculating ?