ttystikk
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Your attempts to smear Mr Sanders with shit like this only succeeds in making you smell even more like it.
Don't you have some cop stuff to do, like eat a donut?
EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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Don't you have some cop stuff to do, like eat a donut?
But not conceding or endorsing her..
Yeah, Spandex.
Fogdog
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Hey Sky, 80% of Bernie's supporters are planning to vote for Hillary.But not conceding or endorsing her..
You know the rules. Citation?
Fogdog
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I don't really want to rub your nose in it but if you insist:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/bernie_sanders_blew_it.html
Bernie Blew It
Elizabeth Warren is the surrogate he was supposed to be. His supporters have become Clinton’s. How Sanders overplayed his hand.
By Jamelle Bouie
In the most recent poll from ABC News and the Washington Post, Clinton leads Trump 51 percent to 39 percent, expanding her previous lead by 5 points, as Trump has seen a complete collapse in his support. And what’s driving the move toward Clinton? Democrats and independents who supported Bernie Sanders. In May, 20 percent of Sanders supporters said they would back Trump over Clinton in the general election. In June, that number is down to 8 percent. Overall, 81 percent of Sanders backers have rallied to Clinton, surpassing the 74 percent of Clinton supporters in 2008 who fell in behind Barack Obama. By any measure, the Democratic Party is unified.
The closing paragraph:
As it stands, the Vermont senator has almost vanished from the news cycle, overshadowed by Clinton’s growing lead, overall Democratic unity, global events, and the never-ending emissions of Donald Trump. He’ll still matter to the shape and direction of the Democratic National Convention, but he could have had a larger, more visible role. Bernie Sanders had his shot, and he threw it away.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/bernie_sanders_blew_it.html
Bernie Blew It
Elizabeth Warren is the surrogate he was supposed to be. His supporters have become Clinton’s. How Sanders overplayed his hand.
By Jamelle Bouie
In the most recent poll from ABC News and the Washington Post, Clinton leads Trump 51 percent to 39 percent, expanding her previous lead by 5 points, as Trump has seen a complete collapse in his support. And what’s driving the move toward Clinton? Democrats and independents who supported Bernie Sanders. In May, 20 percent of Sanders supporters said they would back Trump over Clinton in the general election. In June, that number is down to 8 percent. Overall, 81 percent of Sanders backers have rallied to Clinton, surpassing the 74 percent of Clinton supporters in 2008 who fell in behind Barack Obama. By any measure, the Democratic Party is unified.
The closing paragraph:
As it stands, the Vermont senator has almost vanished from the news cycle, overshadowed by Clinton’s growing lead, overall Democratic unity, global events, and the never-ending emissions of Donald Trump. He’ll still matter to the shape and direction of the Democratic National Convention, but he could have had a larger, more visible role. Bernie Sanders had his shot, and he threw it away.
ttystikk
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The biggest threat to the ascendancy of the establishment candidate is vanishing from the news cycle... Just like they ignored the rest of his strong run.
Pardon me while I digest this latest excuse for gauging the will of the people.
ttystikk
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NO ONE IS GOING TO RESPOND TO THIS?!
DO YOU NOT CARE ABOUT THE DEATH OF OUR DEMOCRACY?
WTF?!
If we don't fight for our right to be represented fairly, then maybe we don't deserve it.
Maybe I should just join them. If the average American won't stand for themselves, I'll stand with those who will.
Fogdog
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I'm sorry, I thought the record was broken and just repeating itself. What was it you said again?
Fogdog
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Bernie has become irrelevant. This is what happens in politics when you overplay a weak hand. The "vanish from media" bit was written to underline that he has become irrelevant. He failed to win the candidacy, then he played hardball to achieve his objectives anyway. He won some concessions but the Democratic Party, including those that supported Bernie, myself included, see Trump as the real threat and is not going to let Bernie become a distraction any longer.The biggest threat to the ascendancy of the establishment candidate is vanishing from the news cycle... Just like they ignored the rest of his strong run.
Pardon me while I digest this latest excuse for gauging the will of the people.
This is where you tell me that we have to fight for what we believe in, even if it means a fascist party takes over. The problem is, you are wrong. Fascists cannot ever be allowed in power because they don't ever give it up once they have it. And if you think Hillary is a Fascist, think again.
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abandonconflict
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You mean they're democrats... Yeah, she's a dem in denial.
The GP offered him continued relevancy, he, like his dem in denial fanbois such as sky, slapped that hand away.
Fogdog
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A demsel in distress.
abandonconflict
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I will reiterate, the Democrat party is liberal. It epitomizes liberalism. Sanders is a DemSoc, but he is serving the RIGHT WING liberal agenda by voting for Hillary. So say all you wish that the Deocrat party abandoned your liberal values, while you objectively act in its interests as obstinately as ever in the face of environmental catastrophe.
I kinda like you, but I consider you part of the problem.
ttystikk
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You believe what the tube tells you. That's a mistake.
The fascists in this country don't want the rest of us to figure it out.
abandonconflict
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Yes folks, and we wonder why we can't get 'no fly; no buy' passed?
Yeeeesh..I wonder what she'd look like without all those fillers in her face?
Bernie is voting for her tho...
Fogdog
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I think Bernie has through this process gained political capital and it's going to make things interesting in Washington later on. Maybe the decision to make Bernie irrelevant was his, as you say. I think he hasn't lost the liberal wing of the Democratic Party's support for his policies, he just lost his bid for the nomination.
ttystikk
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I bought a used car. I'm developing technology to save megawatts of energy on a daily basis. Your lifestyle is far less green than mine. Let's not confuse that with political leanings.
Mrs Clinton is not a liberal and never was. You're twisting the label to suit your own opinion. The democratic party hasn't been liberal in 20 years.
I'm no longer believing in America as a democracy. You can if you like, but don't call me off base without more proof than 'because some media head said so'.
Fogdog
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No need to get all bitter. You can still vote for Bernie. By yourself.
abandonconflict
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Well from a radical standpoint, I see him having had a de-radicalizing effect. He brought left wing activists into the Democrat fold and yet the Democrat platform still sucks, the candidate is bought and sold by the financial sector and military industrial sector, and nobody is focusing on the (fucking god damn expletive RAGE) climate emergency.
He has objectively served the interests of the DNC brilliantly.