Mold, CIA Mites, and Funk Symptoms

hydra-glide

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How does Spinocide work against them? Or go to Azamat? I've got to get moving on them. Spinocide (Monterrey Insecticide - caterpillar spray)
 

hydra-glide

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The local hydro said everyone's currently using GreenCleaner. A three-step process where at least 4-hrs. of dark conditions is a condition.
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hydra-glide

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Here's what I came back with:
Ground Neem Seed 1/8th cup mixed with plant soil, or sprinkled on top of the dirt in existing grows. (I applied to the topsoil then mixed lightly). Water over it. Plants will draw it up, and grow bigger than you might want.
GreenClean. This small bottle is 3-feedings. First spraying: use 1/2 the bottle with a gallon of water. Blast every centimeter of plant material - over, under and on the soil, but not too much that it drains to roots. Put the plant in 4-hrs or 5 of darkness. (i.e; I'll spray my plants tonight at 8, put them in the locked structure with a timer to the shop lights, so they go ON at 1 a.m.) Repeat a
2nd feeding, use 1/4 of the bottle doing the same thing. Cover every bit of plant material. If you leave (1) one egg, you still have a mite problem.
3rd feeding: Use the remaining 1/4 bottle in a gallon of water and hit it hard again. Your mites should be gone.
Source: Brown bottle on left. I believe the name is Source. It's a newer silica product. Cost $500. retail per gallon or $200. for a pint or $60. for a smaller bottle. The JoeHydro gave me the eyedropper bottle full. 3 mls per 5 gallons. If you give them more, the plants will level-off and stop growing. So, 5 gal. divided by 3 mls. = 1.6666 mls. per gallon. Good luck measuring that.
Joe showed me pics of the biggest, widest, and most colorful buds I've ever seen. He used Source and LEC?, (not LED) lighting which controls color spectrum. He said if you grow indoors and use the LEC lighting from start to finish, the plants become multicolored and grow evenly ramped. Whereas changing metal hilide, to other bulbs will cause the plant to pause in it's growth to re-adjust to new lighting. I saw big pics of the results. A mass of multicolored, jam-packed crystals hiding any leaf material that they sat on. And they were different colors. Real different. He says one strain, he'll smoke just before he brushes his teeth, and then hit the sack, it's so heavy. :p
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hydra-glide

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Source® measurement for 1-gallon filtered H2o is 1.666 mls.
1/4 tspn. = 1.25 mls
1.6666 mls. = 0.338126811 tspns.
I need to measure 1.666 mls in teaspoon measurement, so it seems as though, if you could find a 1/3 teaspoon (instead of a 1/4 tspn), that a 1/3 tspn. would be close to correct.
Or, I guess adding a 1/4 tspn. to a gallon of filtered water, and then another 1/8 of a tspn. would also be close.
Anyway, the mixed solution should be shaken until it foams, then fed. I'm using Source instead of silica. After the Source has been shaken, then add Cal-Mag to the water, if you're using it.
 

hydra-glide

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Went across one plant and to the other two in 8-hrs. GreenClean is 1.666 mls. (1/4 tsp + 1/8 tsp), thought they ask for more - you're only using asf.15.jpeg 1/2 bottle first, then a quarter, then finish with a quarter.
 

hydra-glide

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Broad or Russet mite city. First day after GreenClean. No live ones, but plenty of those clear, round eggs embedded in the leaf bottoms. Sick puppy still.sf.16.JPG
 

hydra-glide

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I think the greenCleaner is working. Less leaves were curled this morning. I gave it a 2nd drenching tonight. One more tomorrow night. My friend who knows more than I do, said I don;t need a light dep. cover. Just take them into darkness fo 11 or 12 hours and they'll start ti flower. I'll be changing from Pro-Blend to their flowering blend, I reckon. And soon.
I'm still constructing my two gable-end 6" vent tubes, and the light dep. cover, but not just now. On to flowering. I'll light dep the next crop that's three weeks into Solo cups, ans ready for 2 gal transplants.
 

Shastafarian

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Yes the green cleaner will help alot as foliar and root drench Im too having one hell of a problem myself and I used it which it helps but you have to go HARD with it and keep applying it to kill eggs that rehatch until all have died or something my grow shop was explaining and I used it once noticed some help but I live in my grow area so Im just not sure what exactly I have if its a disease or bugs. do recommend Beneficial Nematodes and Diatomaceous food grade all in the area too just to go Balls out or else they will come back maybe immune to some of that stuff even.
 

hydra-glide

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Thanks for the support. I also picked up a box of neem meal. Smells bad, but it can be mixed in with your first, 2-gal from Solo cup, transplanting. If you ever worried about "pot aroma", use neem meal and that's all you'll smell until harvest and beyond. Neighbors will think your growing neem trees. But... JoeHydro told me that people are reporting no mites appearing....ever. I'm transplanting (3) into 2-gal smartPots this morning to catch an entire day of sun.
Haven't checked the gals this morning, they should have perked-up. I have one more treatment, but have so much GreenCleaner mixed left over that I'll give them a 4th or 5th day of drenching.
I'll be back with pics. STOMP OUT BROAD MITES.
 

hydra-glide

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I called the clone guy this morning and told hm I had mites, used GreenCleaner to a degree of success (I think), and told clone guy, "I read on the internet that people had no luck using neem oil spray 1/2 tsp. per qt.". He sad, "that's the problem with the grow-society. Those that "don't know" have a problem and go on the internet, instead of listening to someone that's been growing for 30-yrs. Use neem oil mixed w/ 2-drops of dish soap in a spray bottle, 2-3 times a week. Like we said at the lecture, keep the plants out of direct sunlight after drenching until they dry. Then they can go back outside. If you neem oil the foliage 2-3 times a week, you won't get mites. And you can go heavier on the neem oil per qt. (or gallon). Instead of 1/2 tsp per qt., use 1/2 tsp. + another 1/4 tsp.
I've sprayed for 3-days with GreenClean. Now they're all going into the shade for a drenching of neem-oil w/ 2-drops of Dawn.
 

hydra-glide

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I know everyone here has been worried sick about the condition of my plant. :sleep:
When the leaves started turning blue and purple, I went over to GrowWeedEasy.com and found their leaf symptoms pics to match my leaves. The classic case of newby over-watering, not mites. The clone guy said: Lift the smartPots now that they're full of water. Then don't water them again until you see the leaves droop, and the smartPots are definitely lighter in weight.sik.1.JPG
 

hydra-glide

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Water only when the leaves begin to droop. Then lift the potted plant to test the weight.
1. Leaves drooping. Time to water.
2. I water the SmartPot along the outer rim first, and deep, so the roots will move towards the smartPot walls. Then I add some water around the center, but not alot.
3. The leaves took 12 min. to spring back to life.
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oswizzle

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your plants dont look like they have BM... btw those round clear spheres your seeing are trichs... this is what a BM Egg looks like ...very distinctive and 1ml per gallon of Kontos will take of them all day/night

 

hydra-glide

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"btw those round clear spheres your seeing are trichs"
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Whew!...(again)...Whew!!! Thank you for the micro-pics. That's what we need. Real pics of real BM eggs. Yeah.....I thought my round, clear, circles embedded in the bottom of my leaves were eggs, but trich's? I wouldn't have guessed. THANX!
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1ml of Kontos per gallon of filtered water. That' powerful... (1) mil. It's usually 1/4, 1/2, tspn. of anything else.
 
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