EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

abandonconflict

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he's been playing the game for too long now..he knows what hes doing and how far he can go.

everyone is boohooing because they cant CONTROL him or convince him that he should forget everything he campaigned for..how refreshing!

they can take their shove/pail and leave the sandbox anytime they wish.
Oh let me guess, 13 million write-in votes? Most of them are going to vote for Hillary outright. You're sitting here trying to debate me as if you need to defend Barnie from me when I am actually telling you Sanderistas how to keep him relevant. If you write him in, your ballot will be ignored.

Did you even stop to think that it is possible to pressure him to run on the Green ticket and take Stein as his VP? You can't because you're a democrat. If he doesn't leave the DNC, you need to dump him or you will be helping Trump.
 

schuylaar

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Oh let me guess, 13 million write-in votes? Most of them are going to vote for Hillary outright. You're sitting here trying to debate me as if you need to defend Barnie from me when I am actually telling you Sanderistas how to keep him relevant. If you write him in, your ballot will be ignored.

Did you even stop to think that it is possible to pressure him to run on the Green ticket and take Stein as his VP? You can't because you're a democrat. If he doesn't leave the DNC, you need to dump him or you will be helping Trump.
In THAT case then:


C'est le vie..you know you can never tell:wink:
 

schuylaar

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Oh let me guess, 13 million write-in votes? Most of them are going to vote for Hillary outright. You're sitting here trying to debate me as if you need to defend Barnie from me when I am actually telling you Sanderistas how to keep him relevant. If you write him in, your ballot will be ignored.

Did you even stop to think that it is possible to pressure him to run on the Green ticket and take Stein as his VP? You can't because you're a democrat. If he doesn't leave the DNC, you need to dump him or you will be helping Trump.
He can also run indie..he can do many things.

Convention hasn't even begun.

And considering Sanders is a 'non-issue' way too many seem to think he still is by talking about him..like you and @Fogdog and @londonfog.
 

Flaming Pie

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@Flaming Pie listen to the very last comment by Nicole Wallace. if its not there, she said with a look of the most perplexed "he's the most prinicpled man i've ever met'..wow nicole..ya think? stupid bitch.

Truly a centrist sensitive to the concerns of the world but realises that americans should come first.

Please believe me when I say I have the utmost respect for you and others who support the compassionate bernie sanders.

My best friend is a sanders supporter. I would vote for a sanders/trump or trump/sanders ticket in a heart beat. Two honest concerned citizens joining to get it done in america. Hell yes.

Bernie as democratic house leader sounds nice too.

I don't see how he could win the white house, but I do understand the vote as a message cause. I did it against romney.

I just don't know if the white house and government care what we think anymore.
To make them care we have to become much more politically involved like mr. Sanders says. We have to elect congressman who represent us best while preserving the constitutional rights of each individual. We need straightforward individuals who will maintain transparency of government and tenderly remove the legislation that stifles our economic growth.

If our economy was not held back with the fucked up trade deals and taxes that do not compete globally so we lose our companies' capital to china and mexico, we would have so many jobs. Everyone would buy local, the quality would be there, and it would ensure american jobs.

Demand for american products and services is what drives our economy.
 

ttystikk

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Oh let me guess, 13 million write-in votes? Most of them are going to vote for Hillary outright. You're sitting here trying to debate me as if you need to defend Barnie from me when I am actually telling you Sanderistas how to keep him relevant. If you write him in, your ballot will be ignored.

Did you even stop to think that it is possible to pressure him to run on the Green ticket and take Stein as his VP? You can't because you're a democrat. If he doesn't leave the DNC, you need to dump him or you will be helping Trump.
'Barnie?' He's only the candidate who cares about your needs out of the whole bunch, yet you can't resist denigrating him? That just makes you look Chump supporter stupid, and I know you're not.

Can't you give the man a break until he's had his say in front of the DNC? It's coming right up on the 7th, surely you can wait a whole week?
 

abandonconflict

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He can also run indie..he can do many things.

Convention hasn't even begun.

And considering Sanders is a 'non-issue' way too many seem to think he still is by talking about him..like you and @Fogdog and @londonfog.
I didn't say he was a nonissue, I said he was squandering his political capital.

Are you aware that climate scientists recently declared a climate emergency?
 

abandonconflict

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'Barnie?' He's only the candidate who cares about your needs out of the whole bunch, yet you can't resist denigrating him? That just makes you look Chump supporter stupid, and I know you're not.

Can't you give the man a break until he's had his say in front of the DNC? It's coming right up on the 7th, surely you can wait a whole week?
To be honest with you, I lost all faith in the political system long ago. I want to see a revolution destroy your country and your economy before it destroys my planet. If he won't align himself with the ONLY candidate who has a platform and record of fighting the coming climate catastrophe, I will most certainly denigrate Barnie Sandlers and his inept politically illiterate minions.
 

ttystikk

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I didn't say he was a nonissue, I said he was squandering his political capital.

Are you aware that climate scientists recently declared a climate emergency?
Yes, and the PhD CANDIDATE who raised this false alarm has been roundly criticised by the rest of the climate science community as a sensationalist hack. Link to the rebuttal article in my thread on this very subject.
 

ttystikk

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To be honest with you, I lost all faith in the political system long ago. I want to see a revolution destroy your country and your economy before it destroys my planet. If he won't align himself with the ONLY candidate who has a platform and record of fighting the coming climate catastrophe, I will most certainly denigrate Barnie Sandlers and his inept politically illiterate minions.
We inept minions are the best hope you've got to see any of your dreams be realized.

I think it's time you learned the fine art of compromise and fence mending. Otherwise, you'll always be out in the cold.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Truly a centrist sensitive to the concerns of the world but realises that americans should come first.

Please believe me when I say I have the utmost respect for you and others who support the compassionate bernie sanders.

My best friend is a sanders supporter. I would vote for a sanders/trump or trump/sanders ticket in a heart beat. Two honest concerned citizens joining to get it done in america. Hell yes.

Bernie as democratic house leader sounds nice too.

I don't see how he could win the white house, but I do understand the vote as a message cause. I did it against romney.

I just don't know if the white house and government care what we think anymore.
To make them care we have to become much more politically involved like mr. Sanders says. We have to elect congressman who represent us best while preserving the constitutional rights of each individual. We need straightforward individuals who will maintain transparency of government and tenderly remove the legislation that stifles our economic growth.

If our economy was not held back with the fucked up trade deals and taxes that do not compete globally so we lose our companies' capital to china and mexico, we would have so many jobs. Everyone would buy local, the quality would be there, and it would ensure american jobs.

Demand for american products and services is what drives our economy.
you know i thought we had that straightforwardness in Warren..

as i recall the globalization was supposed to help america by the introduction of inexpensive items manufactured elsewhere..that's how it was sold to us..but not what happened..we lost jobs and everything that goes with..whole towns no workers to spend the money they made in the US stay in the US. instead what we got is the same overpriced shit produced by people that make $.50 a day.

the only winners here is corporate america.
 

abandonconflict

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We inept minions are the best hope you've got to see any of your dreams be realized.

I think it's time you learned the fine art of compromise and fence mending. Otherwise, you'll always be out in the cold.
No you're not. You;re either part of the solution or part of the problem. Obstinate democrats like you and sky must have forgotten that many candidates for a long time have been far more progressive than Barnie Sandlers. The only reason you've heard of him is because he is a democrat.

Democrats are part of the problem.
 

schuylaar

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I didn't say he was a nonissue, I said he was squandering his political capital.

Are you aware that climate scientists recently declared a climate emergency?
yes i am aware; are you aware what Bernie wished to do? how about Clinton the pragmatic do-nothing who was only pushed to the left by Sanders.

Can you imagine what the landscape would've looked like if she went unchallenged? She wasn't even interested in raising the minimum wage and Bernie EMBARRASSED her into $12/hour.
 

ttystikk

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No you're not. You;re either part of the solution or part of the problem. Obstinate democrats like you and sky must have forgotten that many candidates for a long time have been far more progressive than Barnie Sandlers. The only reason you've heard of him is because he is a democrat.

Democrats are part of the problem.
Let's be clear; I'm a liberal and a leftist. The democratic party abandoned me and my principles for those of greed a long time ago.
 

schuylaar

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No you're not. You;re either part of the solution or part of the problem. Obstinate democrats like you and sky must have forgotten that many candidates for a long time have been far more progressive than Barnie Sandlers. The only reason you've heard of him is because he is a democrat.

Democrats are part of the problem.
you are wrong.

Then why didn't these many more progressives do SOMETHING, ANYTHING?

They could have done exactly what Sanders did..our COULD they?
 

schuylaar

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'Barnie?' He's only the candidate who cares about your needs out of the whole bunch, yet you can't resist denigrating him? That just makes you look Chump supporter stupid, and I know you're not.

Can't you give the man a break until he's had his say in front of the DNC? It's coming right up on the 7th, surely you can wait a whole week?
thank you, right? it's our thirst for blood and our attention span of 10 seconds..no he too cannot wait.:clap:
 

abandonconflict

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Let's be clear; I'm a liberal and a leftist. The democratic party abandoned me and my principles for those of greed a long time ago.
Then why are you so unwilling to accept that it is impossible to have a revolution in a couter-revolutionary party? Liberalism is not a leftwing ideology by the way, so maybe that explains the cognitive dissonance.
 
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