US Federal Judge: US Constitution has no value

[desert dude]

The supreme court rules that corporations are people and money is free speech. This is the law until the law is changed. The law based upon a really dumb interpretation by the right wing supreme court ruling will be overturned and Congress will pass legislation that makes it permanent. Until then, the GOP can eat sour grapes while they watch Democrats run them over using their own stupid court ruling.

A gang of men who were all hat and no cattle like Desert Dude, came armed and occupied a National Wildlife Sanctuary near my home. They tried to enforce their weird and narrow interpretation of the constitution. Menaced a community and looked like fools. One committed suicide by cop. Isn't now going well for the rest of them.

So to reply your statement, I don't believe in just ignoring the law or using arms to enforce my interpretation of it. I don't think the current laws supporting money as free speech or corporations as people are good laws. I support working within the system to make it better.

How do you reconcile Hillary's vast expenditures with your claim that money is not free speech?

Corporations have been "people" for hundreds of years. People get to decide how to spend their money, and what political causes to support, even when they band together into a union.

 

[bigbillyrocka]

This ought to go without saying, like 'Never eat used condoms you see in parking lots!'

Or how about NEVER eating used condoms, ever? (da fuq I jus read?!) Lmao

 

[UncleBuck]

This federal judge is saying "ignore it". Queerly, that seems to be a popular opinion here at RIU.

tell me about it.

we've got quite a few nutballs rooting for a guy who wants to ban a religion entirely.

not so queerly, you are one of them.

 

[UncleBuck]

He fucked it up and got it wrong. He doesn't have any idea who I am.

yep, it must have been some other "desert dude" selling ammunition on calguns.net whose email, phone number, and name all lead back to an address on athol avenue in inyokern.

Wow! I could throw a rock and hit Inyokern

yep, probably all just a massive coincidence of which you are the unwitting victim.

that, and hillary is going to jail! BENGHAZI!

dumb white supremacist cop.

 

[desert dude]

tell me about it.

we've got quite a few nutballs rooting for a guy who wants to ban a religion entirely.

not so queerly, you are one of them.

I assume you are talking about Trump and Muslims. I am not rooting for him, I reluctantly realize that he is better than crooked Hillary. I will probably vote for Johnson, though.

I have no interest in banning Muslims, and neither does Trump.

Speaking of fundamentalist Christians, did you read about their rampage in Bangladesh today? Over twenty people executed when they could not recite the lord's prayer.

 

[UncleBuck]

I am not rooting for him...he is better than crooked Hillary...I have no interest in banning Muslims, and neither does Trump.

jesusfuck you are a pathetic fool.

 

[desert dude]

yep, it must have been some other "desert dude" selling ammunition on calguns.net whose email, phone number, and name all lead back to an address on athol avenue in inyokern.



yep, probably all just a massive coincidence of which you are the unwitting victim.

that, and hillary is going to jail! BENGHAZI!

dumb white supremacist cop.

What address is that on Athol? And the name? And wife's name? Kids? You might as well get it out. Your snitch urge is bound to be inflamed at this point. I need a good laugh.

Hillary will probable plea bargain and not go to jail, though she really should go to jail. Do you think Obama will pardon her? Everything I have read indicates that Barry detests her, but he probably will suspend justice for a fellow fascist Democrat, he does have a future in Venture Capital to consider, after all.

 

[UncleBuck]

What address is that on Athol? And the name? And wife's name? Kids? You might as well get it out. Your snitch urge is bound to be inflamed at this point. I need a good laugh.

Hillary will probable plea bargain and not go to jail, though she really should go to jail. Do you think Obama will pardon her? Everything I have read indicates that Barry detests her, but he probably will suspend justice for a fellow fascist Democrat, he does have a future in Venture Capital to consider, after all.

so your tactic is to try to change the subject away from how obvious it is that i found your dumb ass by mouth vomiting mental retardation about this fake scandal?

you remind me of a dog who eats shit, throws it up, and then eats the freshly regurgitated shit all over again.

 

[Fogdog]

How do you reconcile Hillary's vast expenditures with your claim that money is not free speech?

Corporations have been "people" for hundreds of years. People get to decide how to spend their money, and what political causes to support, even when they band together into a union.

Re-read what I wrote. You've gotten it wrong. Citizen's United is currently the most important factor in today's political system. I want that to change. Until then, what? The GOP would like the Democratic Party to unilaterally disarm. Instead, Dems are taking GOP's law and running roughshod over them. It's like giving somebody what they demand until it hurts.

I don't like the way the system is run but until the system is fixed, then it's game on and suck it up, loser. The GOP wanted this and now they can drink their own tears.

When this is all over, everybody will be glad to change that law.

Corporations were made into legal people by a Supreme Court ruling about 180 years ago. Times have changed since then. It's time to change that ruling. It was never part of the constitution, it is just a constitutional ruling. This can be fixed.

 

[desert dude]

Re-read what I wrote. You've gotten it wrong. Citizen's United is currently the most important factor in today's political system. I want that to change. Until then, what? The GOP would like the Democratic Party to unilaterally disarm. Instead, Dems are taking GOP's law and running roughshod over them. It's like giving somebody what they demand until it hurts.

I don't like the way the system is run but until the system is fixed, then it's game on and suck it up, loser. The GOP wanted this and now they can drink their own tears.

When this is all over, everybody will be glad to change that law.

Corporations were made into legal people by a Supreme Court ruling about 180 years ago. Times have changed since then. It's time to change that ruling. It was never part of the constitution, it is just a constitutional ruling. This can be fixed.

So, you only like stare decesis when it suits you? Didn't you just lecture me on the evolution of the constitution via prior decisions?

Do you know the issue that brought Citizens United before SCOTUS? The name of the politician who was trying to silence her detractors? You sound like a reasonably intelligent person, so you probably do know the answers to those questions, but I will bet that not one in 20 can answer those questions.

 

[UncleBuck]

So, you only like stare decesis when it suits you? Didn't you just lecture me on the evolution of the constitution via prior decisions?

Do you know the issue that brought Citizens United before SCOTUS? The name of the politician who was trying to silence her detractors? You sound like a reasonably intelligent person, so you probably do know the answers to those questions, but I will bet that not one in 20 can answer those questions.

are you trying to boast of yourself as some kind of educated, enlightened white supremacist cop?

 

[Fogdog]

So, you only like stare decesis when it suits you? Didn't you just lecture me on the evolution of the constitution via prior decisions?

Do you know the issue that brought Citizens United before SCOTUS? The name of the politician who was trying to silence her detractors? You sound like a reasonably intelligent person, so you probably do know the answers to those questions, but I will bet that not one in 20 can answer those questions.

Put me down as one of the 19. I can google it but it's irrelevant. What I'm saying is, what the Supreme Court said 180 years ago or even 4 years ago can be overturned. Your right wing party has been trying to do this over abortion and nearly won several times, so it's not as if I'm supporting some radical left wing concept. This is how an old document like the Constitution is made relevant today.

Come on man, this isn't new. If you hadn't been asleep drooling on your desk in high school civics class maybe you would know this too.

 

[UncleBuck]

Put me down as one of the 19. I can google it but it's irrelevant. What I'm saying is, what the Supreme Court said 180 years ago or even 4 years ago can be overturned. Your right wing party has been trying to do this over abortion and nearly won several times, so it's not as if I'm supporting some radical left wing concept. This is how an old document like the Constitution is made relevant today.

Come on man, this isn't new. If you hadn't been asleep drooling on your desk in high school civics class maybe you would know this too.

oh, desert dude is another high school dropout whose only saving grace in life was the largest socialist organization in the entire world. he was literally too stupid to be anything but a bullet catcher, so that's what he signed up to do.

just an FYI.

 

[desert dude]

Re-read what I wrote. You've gotten it wrong. Citizen's United is currently the most important factor in today's political system. I want that to change. Until then, what? The GOP would like the Democratic Party to unilaterally disarm. Instead, Dems are taking GOP's law and running roughshod over them. It's like giving somebody what they demand until it hurts.

I don't like the way the system is run but until the system is fixed, then it's game on and suck it up, loser. The GOP wanted this and now they can drink their own tears.

When this is all over, everybody will be glad to change that law.

Corporations were made into legal people by a Supreme Court ruling about 180 years ago. Times have changed since then. It's time to change that ruling. It was never part of the constitution, it is just a constitutional ruling. This can be fixed.

Before CU, labor unions could spend freely to support their political party, while the opposing political party was disenfranchised. After CU, both can spend freely.

That darned first amendment is so bothersome. And old. Who cares what a bunch old white men thought in the 18th century. We need new laws and the right people creating them on an as-needed basis. The Constitution lives!

 

[UncleBuck]

Before CU, labor unions could spend freely to support their political party, while the opposing political party was disenfranchised. After CU, both can spend freely.

That darned first amendment is so bothersome. And old. Who cares what a bunch old white men thought in the 18th century. We need new laws and the right people creating them on an as-needed basis. The Constitution lives!

fucking high school dropout.

 

[desert dude]

Put me down as one of the 19. I can google it but it's irrelevant. What I'm saying is, what the Supreme Court said 180 years ago or even 4 years ago can be overturned. Your right wing party has been trying to do this over abortion and nearly won several times, so it's not as if I'm supporting some radical left wing concept. This is how an old document like the Constitution is made relevant today.

Come on man, this isn't new. If you hadn't been asleep drooling on your desk in high school civics class maybe you would know this too.

The case was brought to allow critics of the Hilldawg. Yes, the very same Hilldawg that set up an illegal, FOIA evading email server. The CU decision allowed people to legally criticize Hillary.

"In the case, the conservative non-profit organization Citizens United wanted to air a film critical of Hillary Clinton and to advertise the film during television broadcasts which was a violation of the 2002 Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, commonly known as the McCain–Feingold Act or "BCRA".[4] Section 203 of BCRA defined an "electioneering communication" as a broadcast, cable, or satellite communication that mentioned a candidate within 60 days of a general election or 30 days of a primary, and prohibited such expenditures by corporations and unions."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

 

[desert dude]

fucking high school dropout.

We're both high school dropouts, aren't we?

 

[UncleBuck]

The case was brought to allow critics of the Hilldawg. Yes, the very same Hilldawg that set up an illegal, FOIA evading email server. The CU decision allowed people to legally criticize Hillary.

"In the case, the conservative non-profit organization Citizens United wanted to air a film critical of Hillary Clinton and to advertise the film during television broadcasts which was a violation of the 2002 Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, commonly known as the McCain–Feingold Act or "BCRA".[4] Section 203 of BCRA defined an "electioneering communication" as a broadcast, cable, or satellite communication that mentioned a candidate within 60 days of a general election or 30 days of a primary, and prohibited such expenditures by corporations and unions."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

 

[UncleBuck]

We're both high school dropouts, aren't we?

nope, i graduated and got into college on the strength of my grades and SAT scores.

not everyone can do that.

and it's usually because they are being persecuted for being white, amirite?

 

[schuylaar]

are you trying to boast of yourself as some kind of educated, enlightened white supremacist cop?

N'awwwww DD..enjoy your life..it looks as if you do