My Amare & Hydroponics Hut O.C.GG#4 Grow

[Big smo]

Yes I do. Takes about 6-8 hours per plant per person, some strains can be done in 4-5 though. My buddy owns the Twister2. Costed him around $7000 though. It does a great job but I really like the way my bud looks hand trimmed.



Yup, finally am going to get my mini-split. $1900 for the 36,000 BTU over @ BeastCoast. They got great deals. Like $800-$1000 less then Sears n Lowes last I checked. Real excited!
Upgraded to a 200amp service utilizing 100amp availability just for my grow rooms. All running on 220 of course. Now it's time to take the next step by adding 2 more 600's & the mini-split.
It was a tough call though cuz In the winter I simply use a 6" inline fan ducted to the outside running off a $90 photo-thermostat. Works perfect & saves on energy.
Ordering my first Pro-4 tomorrow & 2 more within 2 weeks from that, as well as 2, Pro-3's that I plan to link together to make 1,700watt Amare.
So, this room I'm using will be about a 6.5'x10' grow area using 1, SE-450, 3, Pro-4's & 2, Pro-3's. Also planning on getting some 4' UVB T-5's to go between them.
Also considering getting some far-red going on to , to run after lights out for 20min. I'm not sure if that's worth it though? Been studying on how they put the girls to bed faster, giving them a full nights rest rather then them taking a few hours to fall asleep. Might just run the FR w/ everything else if I even go down that road. I think the Amares have a great combination as is.
Last time I saw your girls they were stacking real nice! Almost ready to chop? Got some pics brother?

I shop at the hole in the wall south coast store by the beaches. Ur a lucky one going there. It's funny my friend who is using the kinds just text me saying he was getting a mini as well.
Do you think the unit will drop rh enough or are you still planning on a dehumidifier? I'm with you on the 6" inline and photo-thermostate. I ran this up until a month and a half ago.

We are both gonna be waiting for the ups guy next week lol. I'm picking up 2 solar pro 400's as a replacement for the cmh's I have. Actually just logged out of PayPal.

Time for a new room! 10x20 just isn't cutting it even with autos. This girls starting to bulk up a bit. Day 72 from seed. She has a few smaller sisters but the problem is the autos aren't controllable. I have done runs where my room was empty and runs where 7 plants fill it.

 

[Hybridway]

I shop at the hole in the wall south coast store by the beaches. Ur a lucky one going there. It's funny my friend who is using the kinds just text me saying he was getting a mini as well.
Do you think the unit will drop rh enough or are you still planning on a dehumidifier? I'm with you on the 6" inline and photo-thermostate. I ran this up until a month and a half ago.

We are both gonna be waiting for the ups guy next week lol. I'm picking up 2 solar pro 400's as a replacement for the cmh's I have. Actually just logged out of PayPal.

Time for a new room! 10x20 just isn't cutting it even with autos. This girls starting to bulk up a bit. Day 72 from seed. She has a few smaller sisters but the problem is the autos aren't controllable. I have done runs where my room was empty and runs where 7 plants fill it.
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Damn son! Are those autos grown under your Amares?
Geese, it's nice to see you don't fuc around. My type of grower. Sweet!
You're getting the Pro-4's too! Can't wait to use real HO fixtures. 100 watt cobs instead of 50. That's watt I'm talking about!!! lol!
You should check out the lowes dehumidifiers. I use the ones that have a self pumping mechanism. One does my HPS room w/o a problem. Just keeps pumping the water out theough the hose & to the sink.
You got some chunky buds. I'd be very cautious about humidity. It's been bad out here the last week or two especially. Big buds can easily get bud rot in the middle. You have to keep your room @ 50% bro. I see your work & it's real nice. Don't slack when it comes to environment. It's the most important thing when growing.
Great job BigSmo! You're killing it!

 

[Big smo]

Damn son! Are those autos grown under your Amares?
Geese, it's nice to see you don't fuc around. My type of grower. Sweet!
You're getting the Pro-4's too! Can't wait to use real HO fixtures. 100 watt cobs instead of 50. That's watt I'm talking about!!! lol!
You should check out the lowes dehumidifiers. I use the ones that have a self pumping mechanism. One does my HPS room w/o a problem. Just keeps pumping the water out theough the hose & to the sink.
You got some chunky buds. I'd be very cautious about humidity. It's been bad out here the last week or two especially. Big buds can easily get bud rot in the middle. You have to keep your room @ 50% bro. I see your work & it's real nice. Don't slack when it comes to environment. It's the most important thing when growing.
Great job BigSmo! You're killing it!

Thanks man. Yes ALL AMARE! 3 se-450's and things are doing pretty f-ing great. Kinda blows I'm not set up for photos so there isn't much comparison. But autos are working fairly well here. I have to get a journal going ASAP. I feel that it can help people and also get these lights in more hands.

Funny I checked out the lowes units the other day. Working up that way on the new dump.

2 pro-4's are gonna light shit up! I'm thinking of doing 1 each between the 3 se-450's or just doing a few under them alone.

Your absolutely right about the environment, humidity runs close to 65-70 without the dehumidifier and the last few days I shut it down to help with heat since I ran out of co2. Temps were creeping up to 90 and co2 Ppm was 400. During that time one bud turned on me. I ended up running a second Ac temporarily to run the dehumidifier. It's a struggle here this time of year but I keep looking forward to the 6" duct.

 

[MrTwist1]

I would like to run GG#4 one day - looks like a badass plant. How many rooms do you have @Hybridway? what's your favourite strain? and have you ever run Berry White? cheers

 

[PetFlora]

If your grow space is dark (I covered my windows) you can leave the tents flaps open. Also, I put the tent skin on upside down and open the side flaps as heat rises

 

[ThaMagnificent]

When are you going to bite the bullet and get a pro9?

 

[ThaMagnificent]

If your grow space is dark (I covered my windows) you can leave the tents flaps open. Also, I put the tent skin on upside down and open the side flaps as heat rises

My 5x9 is topping out at 84. I think alot is due to the dehumidifier. It spits out hot air. but if I open the flap right next to it to do some trimming the cold air in my basement makes the dehumidifier air cold. I don't want to leave the flap open so I might try to put another duct fan in to blow cool air on the dehumidifier to see if that works

 

[Hybridway]

My 5x9 is topping out at 84. I think alot is due to the dehumidifier. It spits out hot air. but if I open the flap right next to it to do some trimming the cold air in my basement makes the dehumidifier air cold. I don't want to leave the flap open so I might try to put another duct fan in to blow cool air on the dehumidifier to see if that works

Get a stand-up ! 1000-1200 BTU. Get a cheap one at Job-Lot n save the receipt. Take it back when you can afford to upgrade or keep it. You have to have an AC bro.

 

[Big smo]

My 5x9 is topping out at 84. I think alot is due to the dehumidifier. It spits out hot air. but if I open the flap right next to it to do some trimming the cold air in my basement makes the dehumidifier air cold. I don't want to leave the flap open so I might try to put another duct fan in to blow cool air on the dehumidifier to see if that works

If your blowing in basement air then your also blowing out tent air. Depending on the size of your basement you'll eventually end up dehumidifying the whole place. Hybrids right an Ac would help with temps and also dehumidification. When you run into problems is when it doesn't drop rh enough than you have to run both which fight each other.

@Hybridway. My stand up unit did dump tons of water but it wasn't enough to get the levels low enough. It was like a neutral temp dehumidifier. No ducting or venting just let both sides dump in the room and let the drain hose outside. It's a messed up idea but I didn't want neg pressure by venting the hot outside and my regular Ac was enough to cool the room.

 

[ThaMagnificent]

Get a stand-up ! 1000-1200 BTU. Get a cheap one at Job-Lot n save the receipt. Take it back when you can afford to upgrade or keep it. You have to have an AC bro.

kind of defeats the purpose of led, no? i have the dehumidy in there bc it can get up into the 80%. My basement is cool as hell like in the 60s so i'm trying to figure out how to get more of that cold air in first. its a big unfinished basement so concrete walls everwhere. id say ~ 50x30 all open

 

[ThaMagnificent]

should i take my 70pint dehumidy out and put this in? running both would make the power consumption jump crazy high!

https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-LP0814WNR-115-volt-Conditioner/dp/B00JIURCTA/ref=sr_1_4?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1467746185&sr=1-4&keywords=ac+unit

 

[nevergoodenuf]

After having one for a year, I think the extra couple hundred is worth it. Otherwise you what a 2 hose AC.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Ductless-INVERTER-Air-Conditioner/dp/B00D9ZBOJ4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_201_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=41RgulfthVL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160,160_&psc=1&refRID=CH3E2DZCV5CRDG1T65T9

 

[Hybridway]

kind of defeats the purpose of led, no? i have the dehumidy in there bc it can get up into the 80%. My basement is cool as hell like in the 60s so i'm trying to figure out how to get more of that cold air in first. its a big unfinished basement so concrete walls everwhere. id say ~ 50x30 all open

No, it does not defeat the purpose of led. That's a huge misconception. Not to mention you have 2 monster bad-ass lights here. Not 2, 450's. Which are bad ass too but not as big. Both those lights have the option to vent correct? Doesn't look like you got the IC PRO-9 did you? If they're both vented I'd think that would help but either way. When growing, one always needs control over the environment. It's the single most important factor IMO.
Good luck! I would choose adequate temps over Co2 or anything else, so maybe consider opening your tent to the cool basement.

 

[ThaMagnificent]

After having one for a year, I think the extra couple hundred is worth it. Otherwise you what a 2 hose AC.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Ductless-INVERTER-Air-Conditioner/dp/B00D9ZBOJ4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_201_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=41RgulfthVL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160,160_&psc=1&refRID=CH3E2DZCV5CRDG1T65T9

Does either unit still put out water? I have my dehumidifier connected with a garden hose to a drain in my floor.

 

[Big smo]

Does either unit still put out water? I have my dehumidifier connected with a garden hose to a drain in my floor.

Yes they both do. But they are air conditioners and will most likely not take out as much as a dehumidifier. I'd run the dehumidifier in the basement and open the vents on the door on the tent. See if that's enough to keep everything in check

 

[Hybridway]

Yes they both do. But they are air conditioners and will most likely not take out as much as a dehumidifier. I'd run the dehumidifier in the basement and open the vents on the door on the tent. See if that's enough to keep everything in check

I agree w/ BigSmo! Try what he said n let us know how you made out.
Seeing how you're in a 5'x9', I think a good stand-up would solve your problems. With you're current Dehumidifier running elsewhere in the basement, that should work. He also mentioned getting the daul-port (intake & exhaust) version. I've been using one of them in conjunction with a single port. The only problem w/ the dual-port is you will need to set up to suck in from outside. That sort'v depends on your layout in the basement.
All stand-ups suck out Co2 so I place mine up high as possible on a metal filing cabinet. Reason being is, Co2 is heavier then air & drops to the floor. Fans keep it circulating.
It's very important to Always have your exhaust port blowing out of your house. @ BigSmo, not sure if you were referencing this type of situation earlier. But, deffinetly exhaust out of the house. Not just the grow space, & do not let it, under any circumstances exhaust into the grow room. The machine will just be constantly fighting itself that way.
A decent stand-up has the option to drain. Like Smo said though, it's not as powerful as a dehumidifier itself but I found it will do the job. What I mean by that is, it will keep your room between 50-60% if the basement itself is being controlled by the dehumidifier. On feeding days, it may get up to 65-70% but regulates itself within a few hours.
All my machines that drain, drain into a $70 lowes sump-pump w/ float, that then, in turn pumps the water out of the room to any location. You just need to connect the desired length tube.
The Pro-9 & Maxamizer are not ducted I take it? Those are two beastly lights though & will require room cooling. The Pro-9 is a 1200 watt + DE replacement & the Maxamizer replaces 700-800 watts of HPS mogul. So, that's some serious light.

I'd like to see more vented LEDs in the future.
How's the grow going? Any pics?
If you ever need help, feel free to PM.
Wish you the best!
I am Jelly over that Pro-9 my man.

 

[Hybridway]

After having one for a year, I think the extra couple hundred is worth it. Otherwise you what a 2 hose AC.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Ductless-INVERTER-Air-Conditioner/dp/B00D9ZBOJ4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_201_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=41RgulfthVL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160,160_&psc=1&refRID=CH3E2DZCV5CRDG1T65T9

Just wanna say, man, your builds are bad-ass! I bet a light company will start making replicas of your builds using Parabolic reflectors in the near future. HO, big COBs w/ some enhanced colors around them, or not. Big horticultural COBs will be the next step I think. Either way, I'm sure your style lights will be mass marketed on E-bay soon. Wicked cool n mad props from me!

Great Job!!!!

 

[Big smo]

We're gonna look back and laugh at the 2530's 3070's and 3590's. Cobs will be measured in feet or 250 watt increments.

It's amazing how far the lighting industry has come over the last year nevermind with the growing popularity now and legalization in many places. I think lighting development will increase exponentially. I'm down with a few 1000 watt cobs and heat free dehumidifiers in 2020

 

[ThaMagnificent]

Now my temps are up to 86. Humidity went up a few points too. Prolly because it's hotter. I doubt the extra 8 inch 490 cfm duct fan I bought will bring it down much. Will try to take out dehumidifier tomorrow but I wouldn't expect a huge temp decease. Might have to run the ac but will it also dehumidify if temps drop?

 

[Big smo]

Id run the dehumidifier outside the tent with the door open. The Ac might not even be needed when you take the dehumidifier out. Really just have to mess with it till it's right. If the Ac isn't cooling it's not dehumidifying.

If you want a completely sealed tent/ room you'll most likely need both if you have a high plant count. More plants = higher humidity and drying air raises temps.

I just dumped a few plants to a friend but still have 22 large plants left in a 10x20. 70pint dehumidifier never shuts off and I'm hovering around 60% rh also have a 12k window Ac that's struggling due to the dehumidifier heat keeping things around 85 degrees.