Fogdog
Well-Known Member
I get your point. Hillary is not a peace-time president. We will see all the shit that I hate being done under Obama -- drones, special ops attacks, dead civilians, CIA operations and maybe more. We will also see strengthened ACA, family planning, leftward movement in terms of protecting rights and a sane mind in charge of the economy and budget. Hillary is a right wing liberal, so I'm not saying her presidency will be all lemon drops and rainbows. However, if the movement Bernie pulled together stays involved I think we have a chance to pull this government towards the left. Hillary can't be a total war hawk if she's confronted with a peace-loving left in Congress. This is a big if, agreed.Better than trump, I can see that. Well stated points and your skepticism is well founded. I happen to believe we've had CIA sockpuppet presidents since the death of Kennedy, but I am, admittedly, a consiracy theorist when it comes to foreign policy. Only way it makes sense to me Carter can start arming the mujahideen then Reagan takes over without a pause. Our foreign policy barely changes even with different parties leading.
The appeal to the idea that Bernie will vote for her is a strong one. I really really like Bernie. If you are following his example I can't fault you for that. He's a good man.
At this point though, I'm a single issue voter, with almost a million dead in the Middle East since the start of Americas overthrowing of every non-Arab regime. Trump is a biggot, But our foreign policy is actually killing people, with now a very real possibility of war with Russia over their Mediterranean access. Just me, but I won't vote for ANY Hawks any more.
When enough Democratic liberal left withheld their votes in 2000 and 2004, the country went decidedly to the right. Even the Democratic party did. Because politician follow the vote. People say otherwise but that's what happened in the first decade of the 2000's. Staying on the sidelines may cause more harm than good.
I'm just saying this to put my thoughts out there. I think that the vote is a personal decision and yours is as valid as mine. Except for people who vote for Trump.