whats a bad trip and how can i have one?

mikek420

mikek420

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few days ago, i tried ayahuasca, which contained a few extra chemicals (rue/caapi, dpt, nn dmt, shrooms, 5meo dmt, DiPT)

I had a wonderful time. My friend E, stated that he felt a little anxiety (i was really chilled, reclined and seemed really calm to him, he thought at first he was supposed to be calm like me, then eventually eased into his trip and had a great time (almost took a trip killer [haloperidol] but decided to wait) he was really glad he didnt take it as he had a great time after his peak.

So my question is, what makes a bad trip?

Ive had plenty of trips in very high doses, some of which some of you guys are calling insanely high, and ones some people wouldn't get close to.

How can i have a bad trip? I feel like every one of my trips are very positive and uplifting, then i read a horror story here and there about having a bad trip.

Please dont take me the wrong way. I sincerely wish to experience EVERY side of psychedelics. I WANT to experience a bad trip. Maybe if i do, i could figure out somethings to help others not experience a bad trip.

What do i need to do to experience the dark side of psychedelics?


For this experience its been suggested to me to get drunk and sleep deprived. I cant drink too much as it is physically unhealthy for me (gallbladder removed dr told me i cant drink heavily or terrible things could happen ) but i will have 2-3 shots of hard liquor to try to put me in the not okness. Also sleep deprivation from now till sunday. Any other thoughts for how i can force a bad trip on myself?
 
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DaSprout

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For me. I think that it would be the thought or feeling of something that "urks" you. An abhorrent thought process forming. Or bad body feelings. Or even emotions. Or emotional scars that are reopened. And because of the probable healing effects of psychedelics themselves. And how they make you focus on fixing, ending, or curing the problem. That "urk" is revisited over and over. Becoming a growing loop that can just push on your psyche. For me. It's an utter loss of control of self.

I believe that if you truly want to experience something along those lines. You would have to leave your accustomed setting. For a place where you could be loud. With a sitter. Or two. On large amounts of chosen psychedelics. After abstaining from your current regimen of LSD. Aya. DMT. Shrooms. Etc....
For a period.
Just my opinion.
 
mikek420

mikek420

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My first attempt is gonna be sunday night after work. Gonna deprive myself of sleep and try to reflect on chaos and negative thoughts.

I think, what is gonna happen, is that i will start feeling negative and have a shift in perception that makes me feel right again. That shift is what i want so maybe i can report back how i was feeling negative and how i got out of it
 
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electricslide

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If you want to have a bad or scary trip put yourself in a situation ur not comfortable in , around ppl your not comfortable with, I don't recommend it but if that's what your looking for its a good way to start. Listen to some scary music watch some scary music videos shit like that. I've done it , but I also believe a scary trip is the most enlightening so I enjoy testing my limits.
 
mikek420

mikek420

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electricslide said:
If you want to have a bad or scary trip put yourself in a situation ur not comfortable in , around ppl your not comfortable with, I don't recommend it but if that's what your looking for its a good way to start. Listen to some scary music watch some scary music videos shit like that. I've done it , but I also believe a scary trip is the most enlightening so I enjoy testing my limits.
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Im the same way, i have been talking to a friend who trips like me. We are thinking this experiment is not going to work for a few reasons.
1. I give myself to the drugs immediately i dont try to fight.
B. I have no negatives, even if it is a negative thought, i can rationalize it to become positive.
§. I have been tripping for a long time. Perhaps i have hardwired my brain through neurogenesis and it is actually physically impossible.
Lets see, what lettumber are we on?
¤. I have no fear of death. I cycle theough samsara, and its beautiful. I see people cycle through samsara and they're scared
μ. (Holy shit i have a microgram symbol)
0. I communicate with the drugs before after and during the trip. How can i have a bad trip if i feel the soul of the drug?
q. I have watched movies about cannibalism, hack and slash murder, creepy shit, war movies, etc and im fine watching them

Just some thoughts.
 
GardenGnome83

GardenGnome83

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mikek420 said:
Im the same way, i have been talking to a friend who trips like me. We are thinking this experiment is not going to work for a few reasons.
1. I give myself to the drugs immediately i dont try to fight.
B. I have no negatives, even if it is a negative thought, i can rationalize it to become positive.
§. I have been tripping for a long time. Perhaps i have hardwired my brain through neurogenesis and it is actually physically impossible.
Lets see, what lettumber are we on?
¤. I have no fear of death. I cycle theough samsara, and its beautiful. I see people cycle through samsara and they're scared
μ. (Holy shit i have a microgram symbol)
0. I communicate with the drugs before after and during the trip. How can i have a bad trip if i feel the soul of the drug?
q. I have watched movies about cannibalism, hack and slash murder, creepy shit, war movies, etc and im fine watching them

Just some thoughts.
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The best trips I've had were when I watched intense shit!
I remember being on LSD watching The Thin Red Line. Holy shit. Just... Wow.
 
Noinch

Noinch

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One thing I wanted to do was build a small fuck yourself up while tripping box, pretty much a small box you can sit in with mirrors on each inside wall (including floor and roof) then take a light source in and sit and stare into the infinite loop of yourself. Though that might produce some interesting outcomes, not sure if it would exactly produce a bad trip though.

There's like some audio torture things you could listen to, that might work?

The only time's i've had 'bad' trips were taking taking way more than someone ever should or just smoking too much weed back in the day when i first started tripping and didn't know how the two worked together but even then it was just hell fucked up for a bit and i was fine, honestly look at them as quite interesting experiences and not really that bad either.
 
mikek420

mikek420

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DaSprout said:
Instead of trying to push a bad trip. Why not just keep doing what you do. And see what happens?
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Ive had the same trip on shrooms the past half dozen times. Ita so interesting but i want to experience this bad trip that people talk about, that way, i can say

Hey people heres my bad trip but since i have a lot of experience and stuff here is how my mind reacted and what i did to instantly change it so you guys take this info and stop having bad trips
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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A bad trip? The only time that has happened to me was when my friends and i ripped a half gram each of 200x salvia through this 3ft bong and held it in for 5+ seconds. I immediately starting giggling and sweating ridiculously then SMACK... i get lost and falling in a tunnel of distorted colors and vision with NO control and NO memory that you've just did a drug all the while partly consciously half retarded in my head lmfao, i thought i was going to die it felt so fucking real i was trying to scream for help but no voice, then i was trying to grab on to something but i was fucking stuck like chuck! I remember telling myself never again in my fucking life will i ever touch that
 
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DaSprout

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mikek420 said:
Ive had the same trip on shrooms the past half dozen times. Ita so interesting but i want to experience this bad trip that people talk about, that way, i can say

Hey people heres my bad trip but since i have a lot of experience and stuff here is how my mind reacted and what i did to instantly change it so you guys take this info and stop having bad trips
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Sounds like a good thought. But it seems more random. Or a collision of specific factors which trigger bad trips. Or you can just do a large dose of salvia extract.
 
mikek420

mikek420

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I have an idea. Im in such a negative mindset, i took over half a gram of caffeine last night, no sleep since last Saturday and morecaffeine tonight
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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When you are just peaking on shrooms and you just drove to the store and the police pull in with the blue lights on. Holy shit I bugged the fuck out and could not shake it until the shrooms wore off.

But in a good setting I never had a bad trip.
 
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DaSprout

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bluntmassa1 said:
When you are just peaking on shrooms and you just drove to the store and the police pull in with the blue lights on. Holy shit I bugged the fuck out and could not shake it until the shrooms wore off.

But in a good setting I never had a bad trip.
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Sometimes instances like that one occur. They just stick with you for no reason except for the drugs. Even after you sit and reason it out. The thought just loops right back on you. Drugs.
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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DaSprout said:
Sometimes instances like that one occur. They just stick with you for no reason except for the drugs. Even after you sit and reason it out. The thought just loops right back on you. Drugs.
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Right I was just stuck in a loop of paranoia. But if it was legal I'd have thought nothing of it.
 
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