Does giving an auto bloom nutes stop all vertical growth?

[whitebb2727]

Ya the dyna bloom has micros, but so does foliage pro, both are complete as far as micros go.

The foliage pro is for tropical plants because dyna gro doesn't want to say it's for cannabis... They didn't just come up with 3-1-2 for growing mangos and pineapples.

I don't know about silica adding weight itself, somehow I doubt that. And if it does its fiberous weight and probably not the important kind of weight.. Does it make stronger more drought resistant plants, most likely . There is no doubt in my mind about the abilities of potash for oil and actual bud weight production.

Im not intending to argue with you here,but dyna gro makes a "balanced" option in one bottle it's call all pro 7-7-7.

No doubt. Not arguing. Just a debate.

As I said the foilage pro is a great product by itself. I was giving the info for those that wanted it.

I'm not sure on the silica weight part. It could be fiberous but I suspect it increases flower weight to. It was on a documentary cash croppers used it. I don't use it in flower and don't use it on my personal indoor smoke. I use de for silica.

I don't even grow with synthetics. I use synthetics on my house plants and flower beds. That will soon stop since I have a large compost pile and flow through worm bin.

Growers will bump heads on preferred methods.

 

[FruitSpirit]

No one said anything about depriving nutes. The op was asking when to switch to bloom nutes.

The op would be better off sticking with veg nutes all the way through.

The whole PK booster for flower is a myth. A balanced feed is better.

Really? I am on 2.5ml grow juice per litre right now i was thinking of dropping that to 1ml and adding in 1ml of bloom and 1ml of topmax next feed? Then as each feed comes gradually increase the bloom and topmax to 2ml per litre each and keep the grow at 1ml up a flush. What you guys think of that sound ok?

 

[whitebb2727]

Really? I am on 2.5ml grow juice per litre right now i was thinking of dropping that to 1ml and adding in 1ml of bloom and 1ml of topmax next feed? Then as each feed comes gradually increase the bloom and topmax to 2ml per litre each and keep the grow at 1ml up a flush. What you guys think of that sound ok?

What ever floats your boat.

I personally reccomend a balanced feed all the way through. Resinhound showed a pic of one fed grow all the way through.

Flushing is for toilets and a myth. No need to flush. Its all in the dry and cure.

 

[Cyrus420]

No one said anything about depriving nutes. The op was asking when to switch to bloom nutes.

The op would be better off sticking with veg nutes all the way through.

The whole PK booster for flower is a myth. A balanced feed is better.

I swear to you OP has edited his post to include the line about adding nutes. When I first read this thread I swear he was talking about stopping giving his plants nutes.

 

[whitebb2727]

I swear to you OP has edited his post to include the line about adding nutes. When I first read this thread I swear he was talking about stopping giving his plants nutes.

I read the post in the beginning. The op never said that.

The op said they were going to stop veg nutes and start bloom nutes.

Its cool. It happens when you read stoned. I've done it.

 

[Cyrus420]

I read the post in the beginning. The op never said that.

The op said they were going to stop veg nutes and start bloom nutes.

Its cool. It happens when you read stoned. I've done it.

Well now I'm just embarrassed.

 

[akboarder]

Bloom nutes are usually just different ratios of NPK and micros. Switching to bloom nutes will not stop vertical growth, but if you want as much size out of it as possible, stay with veg nutes which will have more nitrogen in it and promote growth of stem and branches. Wait till you see buds start to form and then switch if you are trying to get the plant bigger in size, much like you'd do staying with veg nutes for first week or 2 after lights are switched to 12/12 with photo-period plants. From my memory, I read that autos don't like being topped and/or much topping or pinching- I can imagine because it's hard to tell where they are at in veg/flower in the transitional period. I haven't done an auto for a few years, i'm just saying what i've read and it sounds logical to me. I'm by no means an expert. As whitebb2727 said, a well rounded nutrient would work OK too all the way through. I also remember saying all the PK boosters and heavy nutes are not needed for autos, but as I said, it's been years since autos for me and i'm no expert. Good luck

 

[HansBud]

To answer your question OP environment plays a bigger role in the morphism of your plant than nutrients

@whitebb2727 ya I'm using foliage pro all the way through, I do add potassium sulfate during the bulking phase. I don't believe the phosphate hype.

ok you and white bb have got me thinking totally different about my feeding i would really like to try more of a simple balanced feed rather than adding 6+ different bloomers boosters enhancers etc I'm looking into the dyna grow line and wanna give either the foliage pro or their all pro a try I'm.still very new and trying to figure this out any recommendations?

 

[Resinhound]

ok you and white bb have got me thinking totally different about my feeding i would really like to try more of a simple balanced feed rather than adding 6+ different bloomers boosters enhancers etc I'm looking into the dyna grow line and wanna give either the foliage pro or their all pro a try I'm.still very new and trying to figure this out any recommendations?

Go with foliage pro, you can grow a nice plant all the way to harvest with this alone. I do add some potassium in flower, but this is personal preference for me. I've grown several straight through with fp alone. I work up to about 1ml per liter of tap water, this puts me about.8ec your mileage may vary with your water.

I've also used the 7-9-5 and the 7-7-7 all pro, both of those are good products too. But again the 9-3-6 foliage pro is my preference.

 

[HansBud]

Go with foliage pro, you can grow a nice plant all the way to harvest with this alone. I do add some potassium in flower, but this is personal preference for me. I've grown several straight through with fp alone. I work up to about 1ml per liter of tap water, this puts me about.8ec your mileage may vary with your water.

ill give the foliage a try thanks man! Do you have your own feed chart or do you follow theirs and work up from what they suggest?

 

[Resinhound]

ill give the foliage a try thanks man! Do you have your own feed chart or do you follow theirs and work up from what they suggest?

I don't use charts, i use an EC meter. And mix my nutrients using a 3ml syringe.This allows me to accurately duplicate my feeds. teaspoons aren't that accurate.

My normal feed on a flowering plant is 2ml of fp in 2 liters of water. Work up from. 25ml per liter, to. 5ml per liter and finally 1ml per liter on a mature plant.

It's really that simple. If you want to get fancy add some protekt or potassium sulfate in flower, I add. 4ec of this . My feeds stay at 1.2 EC or less. Less is more.

You really don't need tons of boosters and supplements for these things . Cannabis isn't a phosphate hungry plant. Regardless what you hear and this is well documented.

 

[HansBud]

I don't use charts, i use an EC meter. And mix my nutrients using a 3ml syringe.This allows me to accurately duplicate my feeds. teaspoons aren't that accurate.

My normal feed on a flowering plant is 2ml of fp in 2 liters of water. Work up from. 25ml per liter, to. 5ml per liter and finally 1ml per liter on a mature plant.

It's really that simple. If you want to get fancy add some protekt or potassium sulfate in flower, I add. 4ec of this . My feeds stay at 1.2 EC or less. Less is more.

You really don't need tons of boosters and supplements for these things . Cannabis isn't a phosphate hungry plant. Regardless what you hear and this is well documented.

I like it, I like it alot. I'll get one of those meters one of these days but for now that's a good starting point ill try just the foliage pro for these two plants the next two.after(depending how these ones do) ill try adding some k or protekt
again thank you