dozens of good guys with guns fail to stop single bad guy with gun

Dr.Pecker

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lol. fucking videos. for the idiot that is too stupid to use words to succinctly express a viewpoint.
It's not my fault. You always think you're right so it seems to be a problem with your personality. If you don't like guns don't own one. You're probably too irresponsible to handle it anyway. I'm only being a dick because you called me an idiot. Take some pills for your ADD and watch the video
 

Dr.Pecker

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it's not your fault that you are too stupid to express yourself succinctly using words, hence why you rely on videos?

is it chemtrails then?
I don't want to repeat myself and my viewpoint over and over in this thread so I'm posting educational videos. Your arguments aren't valid because the people committing these crimes are terrorist lunatics. They are criminals and they will still have the guns even if you ban them. You can't just throw out the second amendment because unckle buck doesn't like it.
 

UncleBuck

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I don't want to repeat myself and my viewpoint over and over in this thread so I'm posting educational videos. Your arguments aren't valid because the people committing these crimes are terrorist lunatics. They are criminals and they will still have the guns even if you ban them. You can't just throw out the second amendment because unckle buck doesn't like it.
so anyhoo, what about the massively lower firearm related death rates in all those other countries that you so feverishly avoided discussing?
 

desert dude

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It seems to me that being crazy would immediately disqualify you from owning a gun

So how do we protect against crazy people obtaining guns? And how would you punish someone for illegally obtaining/using a gun without obstructing the 2nd amendment?
That is a question that your side needs to answer, since my side doesn't advocate it. All of the "common sense gun control" ideas are not workable. "No fly, no buy" is horrendously unconstitutional. It violates the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments.

There really is only one lawful way to disarm Americans: You guys need to amend the constitution. Violating the constitution does not sit well with many of us.
 

Padawanbater2

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That is a question that your side needs to answer, since my side doesn't advocate it. All of the "common sense gun control" ideas are not workable. "No fly, no buy" is horrendously unconstitutional. It violates the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments.

There really is only one lawful way to disarm Americans: You guys need to amend the constitution. Violating the constitution does not sit well with many of us.
Gun control regulation doesn't violate the 2nd amendment
 

desert dude

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Why does UK have four times more violent crime, per capita, than the US?

Violent crime, all crime, is less than half what it was 20 years ago. Violent crime rate in the US is lower than in most of Europe.

Gun ownership in the US doubled while crimes committed with guns fell by half.

Violence in the US is confined to relatively few areas. Fix the problems in those areas and there is no problem.

That is NOT the desired outcome for the Democratic party, though. They like things just as they are. Democrats want their single-voter war zones.

One set of laws for us, and no laws for them. Case in point: Hillary.
 

desert dude

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US violent crime rate lower than the UK, Austria, Sweden, Belgium, Finland, France and Holland. The US is the least racist, most race obsessed country in the world.

"It means there are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the UK, making it the most violent place in Europe.

Austria is second, with a rate of 1,677 per 100,000 people, followed by Sweden, Belgium, Finland and Holland.

By comparison, America has an estimated rate of 466 violent crimes per 100,000 population.

France recorded 324,765 violent crimes in 2007 – a 67 per cent increase in the past decade – at a rate of 504 per 100,000 population.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html
 

desert dude

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[QUOTE="desert dude, post: 12762242, member: 292301"
One set of laws for us, and no laws for them. Case in point: Dick Chenney, George Bush, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice...
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You are undoubtedly right. It would help if you list their crimes, though.
 
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