black jesus
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So nanners are good for making seeds?
The Vault Comparative Grow, in association with Mephisto Genetics - Heisenberg Special Autos
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Jack Vault
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There'll be a new Comparative in another few months, so keep your eyes peeled.
While you're waiting feel free to order a few autos until we launch it: https://www.cannabis-seeds-store.co.uk/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=6&sortOrder=price+ASC&perpage=16
whitebb2727
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Yes. Its the only way to.make seeds is pollen from nanners from a male or female.
I used colloidal silver to turn one. The Heisenberg grew nanners on its own from leaving some lowers buds to over ripen.
A lot of pot if left past ripe will throw nanners to save itself. Its called rodelization. Not sure on the spelling.
black jesus
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I read that the chances can be low sometimes. I don't mind trying. I've been spraying this plant for a while and nothing. I don't think he will survive a seed run
Mount
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Just dropping a quick day 27 update, seems to be maybe 5 decent "top" bud sites.. the side branching sites didnt stretch the way I had hoped after the LST, but hopefully they will hold up and produce a decent sized bud anyway. Don't think I want to do any more training on it to even it out, but those with more experience with autos and or this Heisenberg Special are free to chime in about that?
Zig-Zag Blue
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I have been posting my grow on another forum with very limited activity,So i figured i would share these here 
Mephisto Heisenberg Specials Day 69 from putting the seeds to soil.Scope showing a few ambers but not enough for me yet. i cant see it going more than another 5 days Great pics and grows here.
Mephisto Heisenberg Specials Day 69 from putting the seeds to soil.Scope showing a few ambers but not enough for me yet. i cant see it going more than another 5 days Great pics and grows here.
Jack Vault
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Beautiful!!I have been posting my grow on another forum with very limited activity,So i figured i would share these here
UniDragon
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Beautiful color! Looks extraordinarily happy.I have been posting my grow on another forum with very limited activity,So i figured i would share these here
Cannacat
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My last 2, second chance heisenberg specials! They popped on the 25th June, do they look ok? Haven't seen much action out of them for a while, I assume they were filling out underneath? The last couple of days they seem a bit taller and the leaves are bigger. When are they officially vegging? And I don't need to feed until the cotyledons drop off, right? I have 2 x 600hps running 12/12 in the flower room, I want to start putting these in there for 12 hours and then under the T5 in the veg closet the rest of the time, are they sturdy enough now to go under hps?
Sorry for all the questions but I'd quite like not to ruin these girls
UniDragon
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Take what I post with a grain of salt; I do not consider myself a very good gardener whatsoever, but for what it is worth: I think they look great for two weeks old. The one on the left seems to have a little burn, probably from the light, but that's normal and it should improve over time. If it were me, I would put them under a MH, hang the light 2' above the canopy and dial your ballast back to 50% and then gradually increase the power to 100% over a two week period of time. Typically, the first two weeks are the "seedling" stage and then they go into "veg" stage; so you theoretically are in "veg" stage as of July 9. However, check your feed schedule that corresponds with your nutes and follow that schedule; or at least use it for reference. Based on the age of your plants, I would feed veg nutes at 1/2 strength to see how they react. If they don't shock then feed at full strength next time. I personally like to feed twice and then water and then repeat the process throughout the grow. This should loosen up salt build up on the roots caused by nutes.
My last 2, second chance heisenberg specials! They popped on the 25th June, do they look ok? Haven't seen much action out of them for a while, I assume they were filling out underneath? The last couple of days they seem a bit taller and the leaves are bigger. When are they officially vegging? And I don't need to feed until the cotyledons drop off, right? I have 2 x 600hps running 12/12 in the flower room, I want to start putting these in there for 12 hours and then under the T5 in the veg closet the rest of the time, are they sturdy enough now to go under hps?
Sorry for all the questions but I'd quite like not to ruin these girls
As far as your light schedule is concerned, I would check your nute schedule for that too. I have read that with autos it is possible to do the entire grow in 18/6 light, you just change out the bulb when you go from veg to flower. Some schedules will indicate 18/6 for veg and 12/12 in flower. I am using Dutch Pro and their light schedule is screwy. It seems to change from 18/6 to 16/8 and then back to 18/6 and then I don't remember the rest, but it's really screwy. The idea, I think, is to slow the plant's growth down so it doesn't mature too quickly because once an auto starts growing they grow really quickly. If you put them under HPS now, then you may see a lot of "curling" like the plant on the left, but again, I am told that is normal and they should snap out of "curling" over time.
Hope this helps. Sorry for making a short story long because I gave you way too much input, I have a tendency to babble. Again, take what I post with a grain of salt in that I have proven that I am not very good at this. Hopefully a more experienced person will chime in with more accurate information. Good luck!
Cannacat
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Oh I'm a babbler myself, thanks for the input, much appreciated! Yeah the one on the left got squashed, well not really, I was a bit closer than I thought with the spray bottle when misting and flattened it lol, had the curly leaf ever since. I never worry this much about the photos, they just do as they're told lol but cos I ruined the first 3 heisenbergs I really wanna get them right this time
UniDragon
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Oooooh, I think you just solved one of my problems that I am having with my plants. Your curled leaf happened after you misted it too closely. My leaves are doing the exact same thing, but only from the middle of the plant on up to the top. I thought that it was from trying to veg under a HPS; you just confirmed to me that it is more than likely from too much spraying or over spraying my plants.Oh I'm a babbler myself, thanks for the input, much appreciated! Yeah the one on the left got squashed, well not really, I was a bit closer than I thought with the spray bottle when misting and flattened it lol, had the curly leaf ever since. I never worry this much about the photos, they just do as they're told lol but cos I ruined the first 3 heisenbergs I really wanna get them right this time
I know how you feel about losing three of your Heisenbergs; I burned through my entire pack, (all 5 seeds!) and only got one to sprout;this is due to my own mishandling. The one that sprouted, I accidentally killed by giving it way too much Great White. Things would have been fine had I given it something to help it absorb the Great White at the same time, but I didn't consequently everything got just ate up with mold. I then got this bright idea to water it on a daily basis in a attempt to flush the soil and plant and then grew algae in the process...my Heisenberg project was a catastrophic failure. This is why I began my earlier post with:"Take what I post with a grain of salt" because I am the only person in existence that has killed a plant like this; I've done it over and over again and I am getting really good at it, unfortunately.
Anyway, good luck! Hopefully someone with a lot more experience will chime in and give you better advice.
Cannacat
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Do you have a journal of your grow? Mine's in my sig if you fancy a look. We live and learn, that's what I keep telling myself lol. I figure it's all good experience, makes us better next time. My first harvest, 11 white widows, I fought like hell to keep them up past week 6 cos everyone insisted they were done. I won the fight, then we got bud rot and had to harvest early anyway! I blame lack of proper air circulation (we had insufficient fans anyway, then one broke!) and my fella's insistence on opening windows to let in fresh air! We got about 22 ounces of smokable bud off the 11 plants, makes me sick to imagine what it could have been if they'd gone full term and if so much of it hadn't been ruined. Now we have more, bigger, more powerful fans, an air filter, and mini dehumidifiers everywhere. Live and learn.Oooooh, I think you just solved one of my problems that I am having with my plants. Your curled leaf happened after you misted it too closely. My leaves are doing the exact same thing, but only from the middle of the plant on up to the top. I thought that it was from trying to veg under a HPS; you just confirmed to me that it is more than likely from too much spraying or over spraying my plants.
I know how you feel about losing three of your Heisenbergs; I burned through my entire pack, (all 5 seeds!) and only got one to sprout;this is due to my own mishandling. The one that sprouted, I accidentally killed by giving it way too much Great White. Things would have been fine had I given it something to help it absorb the Great White at the same time, but I didn't consequently everything got just ate up with mold. I then got this bright idea to water it on a daily basis in a attempt to flush the soil and plant and then grew algae in the process...my Heisenberg project was a catastrophic failure. This is why I began my earlier post with:"Take what I post with a grain of salt" because I am the only person in existence that has killed a plant like this; I've done it over and over again and I am getting really good at it, unfortunately.
Anyway, good luck! Hopefully someone with a lot more experience will chime in and give you better advice.
StevieBevie
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Here to learn for sure...
StevieBevie
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Super, glad to see your grow!!!I have been posting my grow on another forum with very limited activity,So i figured i would share these here
UniDragon
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I started a journal but found a lot of mistakes in it so I quit documenting my current grow. Yep, you are absolutely correct,"live and learn." That is why I am part of this group, despite my failures.
I read this article/blog/thread yesterday about leaves that curl upwards. Someone chimed in and said that this is due to stress/trauma. I could be over watered, too hot due to too much heat or the wrong light or it could be too much wind from the fans. In my case, I blame my light. I am trying to do a complete grow under a 400 watt HPS in a tent. I think that the light is the wrong spectrum for the stage that my plant is in and therefore causing it to curl upward like a roll. I say that only because the bottom half of the plant looks fine, it's just the top half that has leaves curling upward. I am anticipating that everything will clear up over time but we'll see. If you are interested, I can try to find that same article/blog/thread and post it for your review, just let me know.
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Mount
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Ok, day 30 and I happened to see some frost starting... surprised me!! Gave them a shot of 1/2 strength bloom nutes, Fox Farm line... and a 1/2 dose of calmag... not that it needed it, hopefully being over zealous with them won't mess them up... just have never had an auto before and seeing some trichomes forming at day 30 was a new thing to me. Maybe since I have not given any nutes at all, up to this morning, when I saw frost I might have jumped the gun, but I don't think so... Usually with my soils I am good for 30 to 45 days easy, but thats usually all veg time for me since I have only done photos up to this point.
The HS looks like it may remain short and stout, could be my LST or maybe it is genetics? I doubt there will be much more stretch, but then I really don't know this for a fact since this is my first time with an auto and the first HS I popped. I do have to say THANKS again @George Seeds and @Jack Vault for letting me be part of this, I think you have changed my view of autos!!
I am looking forward to getting the others under the 315's. I am also interested in hearing what all the others think of the strain characteristics and smoke reports and what effects others thought the strain delivered?
The photos might not be the greatest, sorry. I will try to get better ones next week, if I can keep a steady hand.
The HS looks like it may remain short and stout, could be my LST or maybe it is genetics? I doubt there will be much more stretch, but then I really don't know this for a fact since this is my first time with an auto and the first HS I popped. I do have to say THANKS again @George Seeds and @Jack Vault for letting me be part of this, I think you have changed my view of autos!!
I am looking forward to getting the others under the 315's. I am also interested in hearing what all the others think of the strain characteristics and smoke reports and what effects others thought the strain delivered?
The photos might not be the greatest, sorry. I will try to get better ones next week, if I can keep a steady hand.
Maine_Coast
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My 4 plants are finally harvested, dried and in jars curing. I did a final weigh today and to my surprise, the 4 Heisenberg yielded 20.5 ounces. (or about a pound! - lol) 
The Heisenberg have changed my view of Auto's in the best way possible. Not only is it top shelf, the quantity is excellent.
Big thank you to the Vault for these comparative grows!
The Heisenberg have changed my view of Auto's in the best way possible. Not only is it top shelf, the quantity is excellent.
Big thank you to the Vault for these comparative grows!
Jack Vault
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You're very welcome guysMy 4 plants are finally harvested, dried and in jars curing. I did a final weigh today and to my surprise, the 4 Heisenberg yielded 20.5 ounces. (or about a pound! - lol)
The Heisenberg have changed my view of Auto's in the best way possible. Not only is it top shelf, the quantity is excellent.
Big thank you to the Vault for these comparative grows!
UniDragon
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That's like five oz per plant! Do you by chance have a journal on these? If so I would really like to review it just to see how you ended up with five oz per plant! Blew me out of the water; I was really proud of myself for getting 3.5 oz from a Phototron...until now.My 4 plants are finally harvested, dried and in jars curing. I did a final weigh today and to my surprise, the 4 Heisenberg yielded 20.5 ounces. (or about a pound! - lol)
The Heisenberg have changed my view of Auto's in the best way possible. Not only is it top shelf, the quantity is excellent.
Big thank you to the Vault for these comparative grows!