New Loft Grow Room - Input Appreciated

[coughphee.connoiseur]

@loftygoals

How you liking the viper cookies, what is she like? i have to ask because I've wanted this strain since i heard about it about 2 years ago... i know its from seed bc i have never seen a clone on the market.

 

[loftygoals]

@loftygoals

How you liking the viper cookies, what is she like? i have to ask because I've wanted this strain since i heard about it about 2 years ago... i know its from seed bc i have never seen a clone on the market.

Viper Cookies is interesting. Smells of sweet exotic spice with some cookie mixed in (some have more cookie smell than others). Massive growth with multiple thick colas. Yield will easily be the biggest of the strains I'm doing on this grow (maybe double any of the other strains). Stretch was about 4x. Can see them taking 9-10 weeks to finish. In a couple of weeks when I've chopped Pineapple Express and Purple Afghan Kush I'll take some proper pictures (too crowded at the moment). If the finished flavour is any good then it looks like a winner.

 

[coughphee.connoiseur]

Viper Cookies is interesting. Smells of sweet exotic spice with some cookie mixed in (some have more cookie smell than others). Massive growth with multiple thick colas. Yield will easily be the biggest of the strains I'm doing on this grow (maybe double any of the other strains). Stretch was about 4x. Can see them taking 9-10 weeks to finish. In a couple of weeks when I've chopped Pineapple Express and Purple Afghan Kush I'll take some proper pictures (too crowded at the moment). If the finished flavour is any good then it looks like a winner.

Moxie Seeds yeah? or were you lucky to find a cut?

 

[loftygoals]

Moxie Seeds yeah? or were you lucky to find a cut?

Moxie seeds yeah. Im in the UK and don't know any other real life growers so no clones for me! Seems like a good choice as long as the flavour ends up nice.

 

[coughphee.connoiseur]

Moxie seeds yeah. Im in the UK and don't know any other real life growers so no clones for me! Seems like a good choice as long as the flavour ends up nice.

Yes indeed always the better choice of course....

 

[Cornishi]

Moxie seeds yeah. Im in the UK and don't know any other real life growers so no clones for me! Seems like a good choice as long as the flavour ends up nice.

We're more elusive us Brits eh!

 

[Will Thayer]

@loftygoals,

Where you at girl? I like your posts, don't be a thread tease

Cheers,
Will

 

[coughphee.connoiseur]

I agree though i want to see those viper babies

 

[loftygoals]

@loftygoals,

Where you at girl? I like your posts, don't be a thread tease

Cheers,
Will

Hahaha, every spare min has been taken up trimming. Sooo tedious! At my current rate I can manage about 150g dry per day before I want to kill myself.

I'll post a proper update on Monday or Tuesday. Should have 1/2 the crop trimmed and dried by then.

Also have a load of 9 week vegged monsters waiting to flip and a load of clones waiting to take their place!

It's all go!

 

[loftygoals]

I agree though i want to see those viper babies

I'll take some pics. The buds are massive!

 

[loftygoals]

I'll take some pics. The buds are massive!

Took some Viper Cookies pics.

3/4 of the plants have started foxtailing everywhere. New growth coming out of the mid level buds too. That may be a reflection of the temp in my tents... (which I'm purposefully running at 31C lights on and 25C lights off) or maybe the fact the lights are 6-8 inches from the top of the canopy. Anyway the plants are massive and buds are huge!



Here's a closeup of a bud:



Trichome shot:



This is the start of Day 61. I'm going to let them run for 70 days I think... Have started giving them plain water anyway.

 

[Will Thayer]

Took some Viper Cookies pics.
3/4 of the plants have started foxtailing everywhere. New growth coming out of the mid level buds too. That may be a reflection of the temp in my tents... (which I'm purposefully running at 31C lights on and 25C lights off) or maybe the fact the lights are 6-8 inches from the top of the canopy. Anyway the plants are massive and buds are huge!This is the start of Day 61. I'm going to let them run for 70 days I think... Have started giving them plain water anyway.

Looking great, The foxtailing does not look too bad. It is a bit of a bugger to trim though. really impressive results!
Welcome back, we missed you.

Cheers,
Will

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

lookin great, best first grow i've seen, especially considering all the root problems you had to begin with. the led system is very impressive, its totally put me off considering buying a premade led, if and when i make the switch i'll be going with something very similar.
may having to trim a ton of buds be your biggest problem.

 

[shrigpiece]

subbed. This is a fantastic grow lofty. From another brit grower in the loft!

 

[ScaryGaryLed]

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[Boomy]

I remember looking at this back in February when you started posting and thinking how great it would be. Now looking at your progress it's amazing! I want to replicate this and am looking at buying a new house in the coming months and part of the criteria is a dedicated room at least 20x20 just for growing. Your doing an awesome job and the investment will pay for itself in a very short time by the looks of things!

 

[coughphee.connoiseur]

Took some Viper Cookies pics.

3/4 of the plants have started foxtailing everywhere. New growth coming out of the mid level buds too. That may be a reflection of the temp in my tents... (which I'm purposefully running at 31C lights on and 25C lights off) or maybe the fact the lights are 6-8 inches from the top of the canopy. Anyway the plants are massive and buds are huge!

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Here's a closeup of a bud:

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Trichome shot:

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This is the start of Day 61. I'm going to let them run for 70 days I think... Have started giving them plain water anyway.

A source i know out in the bay tells me foxtails usually happen from light & spectrum, the plants love the light supposedly and are reaching for it, i guess kinda like the praying leaves ( which i love to see my leaves prayed up)

Whats your amber- to milky white ratio on the trichs?

 

[shrigpiece]

A source i know out in the bay tells me foxtails usually happen from light & spectrum, the plants love the light supposedly and are reaching for it, i guess kinda like the praying leaves ( which i love to see my leaves prayed up)

Whats your amber- to milky white ratio on the trichs?

Iv found over the years that sativas love to foxtail. i grew thai landrace that took 20 weeks to flower. Thet were fucking huge colas i mean as big as a microwave but weighed no more than 1.5 ozs. Lol ramble ramble

 

[coughphee.connoiseur]

true shit i don't see much fox tailing on indica dominant strains.... has seen it a little but on sativas doms most def

 

[loftygoals]

So I have some final dry weights for Purple Afghan Kush and Pineapple Express... drumroll...

PAK 352g (+8 seeds)
PE 617g (+3 seeds)

PAK was 4 plants in a 4x4 area under 600w
PE was 4 plants in a 4x6 area under approx 8-900w (had them spread into space next to my Blueberry plants as there were only 2 of those)

Considering the root rot I had in veg and the fact this is my first grow I'm reasonably happy.

I didn't run my lights at full power (2100w per 8x4) due to the heat it created in the loft. It was managable until ambient temps hit 18C outside and then all hell broke loose as my small portable AC tipped over the edge and couldn't keep up. As we're in summer now, it would have been fine on some cooler days but others not so much. Since I don't want to micro manage lighting every day based on the weather forecast I just decided to go with 1200w per 8x4 until the weather is consistently cool.

Blueberry came down yesterday at 69 days and Viper Cookies is coming down today/tomorrow. Viper Cookies looks like it's going to give a monster yield... possibly around 700g in a 4x4 under 600w (but they were stealing a lot of light from the PAK plants which were a lot shorter).

Trimming is driving me insane! Seriously we need some trimmigrants in the UK. I would happily pay someone to trim for me! Am considering buying a tumbling trimmer like the Twister T4 but I've told myself I need at least 2 grows and over 6 lbs per crop before it would be sensible...

I've also setup one of my tents for Round 2 and made some "adjustments" to my growing method this time...

Previously I wanted to just let the plants grow out naturally as this is my first grow. Some supercropping where absolutely necessary, a little LST and tying to hold things up. No defoliation unless the leaves were dead. This time round I'm going to the other extreme, LST'd in veg, mass defoliation at flip (removing every single fan leaf), SCROG net for support which will be lowered to canopy level after 1 week of flower.

Also the oscillating floor fan took up quite a bit of canopy space and has caused serious wind burn to one of my Viper Cookies. I've ditched it and suspended 2x 9" floor fans from the tent's ceiling. Air flow seems pretty good so hopefully that's a winner.

They say a pic is worth a thousand words?

Here's 6x Pineapple Express + 2x Purple Afghan Kush...

Extreme defoliation at flip:


Bare naked ladies:


3 days later:


I haven't defoliated the PAK this time round as I don't think they'll respond well. They are slow vegging short plants which flowered very quickly and didn't stretch much so I'll just leave them be for now.