2016 Already Smashing Heat Records

[UncleBuck]

Strange how your mind is ill at ease when people don't agree with you. Keep the herd mentality to yourself pal. It's bullshit, you are just gonna have to get over that, and the get over that I don't agree with you. Maturity comes late to some, and never to most.

jeusfuck, your penis must be tiny to get so angry about the fact that you are demonstrably wrong.

 

[Tektek]

10 year pause in global temp rise. Where did the heat go?
Common theories:
Some to aerosol reflection.
Reached small tipping point. Increased ice melt, phase change to liquid absorbs some.
More Arctic ocean exposed, water absorbs more.
Smaller snow pack. More soil exposed longer to absorb more.
Melting permafrost.

 

[b4ds33d]

10 year pause in global temp rise. Where did the heat go?
Common theories:
Some to aerosol reflection.
Reached small tipping point. Increased ice melt, phase change to liquid absorbs some.
More Arctic ocean exposed, water absorbs more.
Smaller snow pack. More soil exposed longer to absorb more.
Melting permafrost.

then why re the ice caps still here al gore? you said they'd be gone by now...

 

[Larry {the} Gardener]

 

[ttystikk]

We aren't just warming, we're warming at an unprecedented rate. Not only are we setting new records, they're eclipsing the old ones by larger margins than ever before.

So I'm thinking that by 2025, Louisiana will shrink by 15%, you'll be able to sail a boat from Ft Lauderdale to St Petersburg without going as far south as Miami and at least 500k Americans will be forced to move due to encroaching/eroding shorelines.

 

[Larry {the} Gardener]

We aren't just warming, we're warming at an unprecedented rate. Not only are we setting new records, they're eclipsing the old ones by larger margins than ever before.

So I'm thinking that by 2025, Louisiana will shrink by 15%, you'll be able to sail a boat from Ft Lauderdale to St Petersburg without going as far south as Miami and at least 500k Americans will be forced to move due to encroaching/eroding shorelines.

But I won't have as far to drive to the beach. So it's not all bad, right?

I'm thinking the change will be slower than that, but who knows? Tripping points are crazy things. LA is shrinking, but lots of that is due to wetland destruction, which is due to oil and gas production. A cool dude working on that problem is Tab Benoit. {who is also a pretty good bluesman}

 

[Tektek]

As far as I know, "the average daily high for July 14" on the weather channel etc, is the average of the last 20 yrs.
So sometimes the data is less alarming for the general public.
Record hi is whatever they have on record, could be 100 yrs ago.

 

[ttystikk]

As far as I know, "the average daily high for July 14" on the weather channel etc, is the average of the last 20 yrs.
So sometimes the data is less alarming for the general public.
Record hi is whatever they have on record, could be 100 yrs ago.

Now check and see what those moving averages have been doing over the course of the past 30 years, and you'll have a good idea why informed people like me are so alarmed.

 

[Tektek]

Now check and see what those moving averages have been doing over the course of the past 30 years, and you'll have a good idea why informed people like me are so alarmed.

Yup. good idea.
So… what to do, 7B people, and carrying capacity of planet 1B.
Sucks for young people.

 

[ttystikk]

Yup. good idea.
So… what to do, 7B people, and carrying capacity of planet 1B.
Sucks for young people.

Space is vast, and we need to get up there asap.

 

[Tektek]

Space is vast, and we need to get up there asap.

Oh ya,
so cool to have space habitats,
if only the red/blue mars series could happen.

 

[ttystikk]

Oh ya,
so cool to have space habitats,
if only the red/blue mars series could happen.

I read that series and it was not written as a 'what if', but rather a 'this is how' kind of story.

I feel like we are building what humans will be living off of in times to come.

 

[Tektek]

Oh yes, like a how to manual. With tech we don't have yet.
I think possible now to live on Mars, just needs mega $$$.
"We stand on the shoulders of giants."

 

[ttystikk]

Oh yes, like a how to manual. With tech we don't have yet.
I think possible now to live on Mars, just needs mega $$$.
"We stand on the shoulders of giants."

We already have most of the science necessary. The tech can certainly be built- and I daresay we can easily afford it if we as a species can figure out how to divert monies currently spent on weapons and military.

Easier said than done, but if we as a species don't manage to pull it off we'll ALL perish. Soon. Those guns won't shoot themselves, you know!

 

[Larry {the} Gardener]

We already have most of the science necessary. The tech can certainly be built- and I daresay we can easily afford it if we as a species can figure out how to divert monies currently spent on weapons and military.

Easier said than done, but if we as a species don't manage to pull it off we'll ALL perish. Soon. Those guns won't shoot themselves, you know!

Most of the space program came out of the military. And unless we change a lot more than I think will happen, when we send folks into deep space, it will be sailors and marines on the first ships.

And I don't think all of us will be lost. We are a short lived species so far, but we are tenacious.

 

[ttystikk]

Most of the space program came out of the military. And unless we change a lot more than I think will happen, when we send folks into deep space, it will be sailors and marines on the first ships.

And I don't think all of us will be lost. We are a short lived species so far, but we are tenacious.

They've been mostly Air Force, a trend I see continuing.

We need civilians in space. By the millions. This calls for a complete rethink about how we fund our military and what we should be expecting in return for our investment.

 

[Larry {the} Gardener]

They've been mostly Air Force, a trend I see continuing.

That was a play on space 'ships'. An Air Force guy sailing through space is a sailor in all but name. The thin walls of a space ship will give about the same amount of protection as the oak hulls of the wooden ships that got our folks over here a few hundred years ago.

And I agree we need a re-think on our military spending and how we treat the rest of the world. I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

 

[ttystikk]

That was a play on space 'ships'. An Air Force guy sailing through space is a sailor in all but name. The thin walls of a space ship will give about the same amount of protection as the oak hulls of the wooden ships that got our folks over here a few hundred years ago.

And I agree we need a re-think on our military spending and how we treat the rest of the world. I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

The difference between Navy and Air Force is real and cultural. Your explanation is based on a spurious detail; the environment above 20,000 ft is just as hostile.

We the People must make it happen, or the blood they spill in our name will be on our hands.

 

[Larry {the} Gardener]

The difference between Navy and Air Force is real and cultural. Your explanation is based on a spurious detail; the environment above 20,000 ft is just as hostile.

That was my point. Taking off on a trip that will last many years in length, with only the thin hulls of the vessel standing between you and death and destruction at every stage of the voyage is a Navy tradition.

 

[ttystikk]

That was my point. Taking off on a trip that will last many years in length, with only the thin hulls of the vessel standing between you and death and destruction at every stage of the voyage is a Navy tradition.

I don't think there are many Navy astronauts. I could be wrong on this, but it looks like the military has chosen.

And it's a minor point in the bigger picture... which is, if we want to avoid exterminating ourselves, we need to get the fuck off this rock.