Light ???
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RM3
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Yeah, I don't get it, it's an advanced technique posted in the advanced forum after folks askin how da fuc you get those 18+ inch colas with freakin T5's 2 feet off the canopy???
Then you and others that have actually been here and seen it and smoked the buds tell em how they wreck ya and they still think I'm full of crap, it just doesn't make sense to me? lol
BobCajun
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Did you start your plants under UV supplemented light when germinated? I think I read you mentioning that before. Just wondering if you noticed more potency than normal for the strain. I'm starting White Cookies under UVB 150 CFL right now. So far just opened up the cots. Don't appear to be suffering though.
The idea is based on me reading where they took some UK hemp seeds to Egypt and planted them and the very first crop was more resinous than in the UK. That can't have been due to a gradual change over a few generations. Had to be due to the seeds sprouting in the 30 latitude desert environment and making adjustments right then and there for the future growth of that plant. It may not take several generations at all, though probably more so than a single one.
RM3
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Yes I run UV through out because I breed, my strains are potent as fuck ask anyone that has smoked em
BobCajun
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Exactly as I suspected. You posted pics of tiny seedlings with resin glands on em, right? maybe that's the secret, sprouting under UVB enhanced spectrum. You're the only person who does that, to my knowledge. You may not even need UV during flowering. Maybe the high THC is programmed in from seedling stage. It's a real pain trying to supplement flowering plants with UV. Takes a lot less for a seedling.Yes I run UV through out because I breed, my strains are potent as fuck ask anyone that has smoked em
RM3
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BobCajun
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Yeah that's the one. Who gets seedlings like that under normal low UV light?
RM3
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Yeah, I read somewhere that it was the trics that get ya high, so i decided to grow trics
BobCajun
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You were ahead of the curve on that one. The lizard lights work well for it, because they do also have PAR light so you can just use a single CFL for the sprouting, and also because they're nice and compact, easy to work with. Anyway I'll see how it turns out. I haven't heard of anyone using lizard lights as the only light source for plants yet. Somebody probably did but I haven't seen it.Yeah, I read somewhere that it was the trics that get ya high, so i decided to grow trics
hyroot
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No that's not what happened at all. after almost 20 years of growing. I don't think so. 6/2 is not natural. No where in the world does that happen in nature on a constant basis. That creates stress on plants. When plants get stressed out , any number of things can happen.
RM3
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Odin*
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All I can say is you must now follow my grows lol,,,, You and others simply don't get it my room temp is not high !!!!!! Right now my room is 79 degrees my canopy is 91 my root zones are 71, the RH is 31%. My way of growing is COMPLETELY different than what you know or are used to. I have no seals, no ventilation fans, no carbon scrubber. My 5 X 5 grow area sits in the middle of a 500 sq ft room and is WIDE OPEN and my house is air conditioned.
Please take a moment to go outside on a day in the low 80's and put a thermometer in the sun, you'll see that what I do is how Mom Nature rolls it's not rocket science
Please tell me how I fucked up this bud?
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From your original post "my ambient room temp is 77 ~ 84", those temps are too high. "Your" way of growing is nothing new to me. I've grown many different ways, I've seen many different grows. I have two different grows running right now.
Trying to "recreate" outdoor conditions indoors defeats the benefits of "control". Who cares if it's 80+F outside? It can also be 32F, or 100+. There is an optimal temperature for cannabis, not to just grow, but flourish in. It isn't rocket science, it's common sense. There is an optimum combination of light, CO2, temperature, "nutrients", water, etc. Temps above 77F are not a part of that equation. Again, the plant will grow and develop buds/trich's at temps above that, but the plants full potential will not be achieved.
Regarding your picture, it's weed, it will grow and bud in varying environments. Just because it develops flowers and some trich's does not mean it was grown in optimal conditions. In another post you said "it's botany", but you completely disregard any science that contradicts your style. Also, you come across as derogatory. "Don't understand", "steer them in a sane direction", "people will continue to be ignorant", "simply don't get", "somehow you missed", etc. You trash on others, simply for disagreeing, or not even that, for not "doing as you do". I'm not talking trash about your grow, you do what works for you. I'm not alleging that my methods are the one and only "true" way to grow and anyone that doesn't follow "doesn't understand", "isn't sane", or is completely "ignorant". It could just be that you've been exposed to so much ridicule that you've gone from "defensive" to "offensive", but this is biology/botany, not psychology.
Again, I didn't say that you "fucked it up", but if you're alleging that is a "perfect" bud, it is not. Do not take this as an insult, I'm not looking to knock your plants or your grow, but temps above 77F are not ideal. In an ideal environment, that bud would look better. Another thing not being considered in this discussion, outside of what the plant looks like in "life", is the finished product after it's "demise". There are not only deficiencies in the living pics, but cured buds will also divulge "deficiencies".
The main reason I chimed in is that you are suggesting those temps are ideal. This may work in your particular set up (not that it is "ideal"), but it may not work for other grows (depending on other factors). Each grow is unique and without knowing the particulars you cannot make such a recommendation. I am not suggesting that you lower your temps either, that would require you to alter your entire grow op. I am, however, bringing to "light" the science behind plant growth and development. This thread is about "Light" and facts are that light is your friend, the high temps generally associated with it are not. This is indubitable fact.
Let's just "chill".
BobCajun
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Certainly true. That's why I don't recommend that anyone other than me do it. I use that cycle because I like it, no science behind it, just my own observations. It works for me so I use it. I won't bother mentioning it again. It's my own proprietary methodology. I don't imitate what others do, at least not unless it appears to be effective. No part of my grow is like anybody else's. Who else does EOD and EON red? Nobody but me. I really don't think anybody else ever read about the subject. EOD far red is as far as their research went, apparently. That's why they have stretchy plants with little branching, low chlorophyll and prone to light damage. Their plants may ripen a few days earlier than mine, but does that really make up for the things I just mentioned? I'll take the few extra days, along with the incredibly short and dense plants. It's like a fukking hedge about 1 foot deep. The entire plants are no more than 2 feet high.
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RM3
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Ok, Let's just "chill".
but it does seem ironic that others have duplicated it and it works for them as well ?
ttystikk
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The flaw in your logic is the assumption that his goals are the same as your goals. You may also be laboring under the false premise that there's just one 'best' way to grow.
The only one going off about it is you. Take your own advice; chill, and take some of mine; try not to be judgemental.