Subcool SS used dirt?

simply_slide

simply_slide

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Hey fellow growers!

I'm running this year outdoors and all organic. I was given a recipe from an old grower in my local shop. That was made from FFOF, FFHF, Alaskan humus, Coco Loco, perlite, and then he gave me a brown bag with individual bags of raw powered additives.

Well I used 20 gal husky haulers this year and have about 80 gallons of dirt when I'm done. What I'm getting at is could I recycle this dirt and add the mix that is SUBCOOLS mix and get the same results? Or should I start from scratch?
 
Dadopeboii

Dadopeboii

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Not sure what you mean by "dirt" and not sure what you are replacing in your mix. But I would say as long as the dirt you are using is fairly balanced (not just clay or sand or etc.) and somewhat rich in nutrients it should be fine. Make sure you have enough perlite and good nutrients an it'll work, fox farm soil will be an easier starting point though, and contains a lot of good things for aeration.
 
simply_slide

simply_slide

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greasemonkeymann said:
no need to ever throw away soil man.
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Exactly, I feel like I can only make it better. When the plant is done I want to use it again next year, I'm just not sure how to recycle/build it up again and have it be more nutritious. I'm still learning all about organics.

Should I ado another bag of soil or coco or humus or anything like that or add more nutes and let the soil grow?

I was also told that I could do a cover crop and when I'm ready to use it again that the soil will be better than ever before..?
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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simply_slide said:
Exactly, I feel like I can only make it better. When the plant is done I want to use it again next year, I'm just not sure how to recycle/build it up again and have it be more nutritious. I'm still learning all about organics.

Should I ado another bag of soil or coco or humus or anything like that or add more nutes and let the soil grow?

I was also told that I could do a cover crop and when I'm ready to use it again that the soil will be better than ever before..?
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well, when I reamend I use my compost, which is all the macros, humus, and microbial diversity you want.
a cover crop can help establish a good soilweb, but the covercrop does use some nutrients, even nitrogen fixing legumes will deplete soil, plus ya gotta chop em down and compost them back into the soil to get that nitrogen, but they use all the other nutrients as well, and some legumes can grow fast.
depending on the original soil I would reamend with maybe some steer manure to do both, adds humus as well as a good balance of macros, also cow manure is rather slow release so you have almost no chance of burning anything.
i'd do steer manure, neem meal, fishbone meal, crab meal, and kelp meal.
but that's optimal, you could get away with simply steer manure and kelp meal.
after reamending you want to keep your soil lightly moist and NOT anaerobic, a good place to cycle soil is in the final containers that they'll be in.
 
simply_slide

simply_slide

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greasemonkeymann said:
well, when I reamend I use my compost, which is all the macros, humus, and microbial diversity you want.
a cover crop can help establish a good soilweb, but the covercrop does use some nutrients, even nitrogen fixing legumes will deplete soil, plus ya gotta chop em down and compost them back into the soil to get that nitrogen, but they use all the other nutrients as well, and some legumes can grow fast.
depending on the original soil I would reamend with maybe some steer manure to do both, adds humus as well as a good balance of macros, also cow manure is rather slow release so you have almost no chance of burning anything.
i'd do steer manure, neem meal, fishbone meal, crab meal, and kelp meal.
but that's optimal, you could get away with simply steer manure and kelp meal.
after reamending you want to keep your soil lightly moist and NOT anaerobic, a good place to cycle soil is in the final containers that they'll be in.
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Awesome greasemonkey! You're always the man with the answer! I do have a compost pile I have been working, and I have a bit of unused FFOF and Canna Coco mix i haven't used.

I was gonna go with this, maybe cut it in half. Screenshot_20160719-221033.png
 
Dadopeboii

Dadopeboii

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Nothing wrong with reusing soil, best thing to do to revive a used soil is composting. Make some good compost (homemade compost will always be better than store bought compost/humus) and add it to the soil, afterall this is how nutrients are returned to the soil in nature. Adding manure and other nutrients will help too. But adding all of this can cause your soil to have less a percentage of perlite and many larger fragments in your soil may have broken down in the first grow which can make your soil less aerated; it may be a good idea to add some perlite and/or vermiculite
 
simply_slide

simply_slide

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Dadopeboii said:
Nothing wrong with reusing soil, best thing to do to revive a used soil is composting. Make some good compost (homemade compost will always be better than store bought compost/humus) and add it to the soil, afterall this is how nutrients are returned to the soil in nature. Adding manure and other nutrients will help too. But adding all of this can cause your soil to have less a percentage of perlite and many larger fragments in your soil may have broken down in the first grow which can make your soil less aerated; it may be a good idea to add some perlite and/or vermiculite
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So, what you're getting at is, at the end of the season I could just throw my used soil into my yard/kitchen scrap compost pile and just leave it alone over winter and then come time to use it, just at perlite or hydroton
 
Dadopeboii

Dadopeboii

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simply_slide said:
So, what you're getting at is, at the end of the season I could just throw my used soil into my yard/kitchen scrap compost pile and just leave it alone over winter and then come time to use it, just at perlite or hydroton
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Exactly yea or just add ur compost to it when your ready to use it
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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simply_slide said:
So, what you're getting at is, at the end of the season I could just throw my used soil into my yard/kitchen scrap compost pile and just leave it alone over winter and then come time to use it, just at perlite or hydroton
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I personally would change that recipe a bit, but that one will work
I'm not a fan of the slaughterhouse stuff, or the soluble nutrients.
 
simply_slide

simply_slide

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Hey, a little off topic, but I was mixing my compost pile and I found alot! of these large brown maggot looking things. I'll post a pic when I get out there today.
 
bigskymtnguy

bigskymtnguy

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Looks to me like you soil should definately be reused. Looks to me like worm castings would be a good addition, along with some organic nutes added with long enough lead time for activation.
 
subcoolgrower

subcoolgrower

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I do not reuse Super Soil and Jinx will never talk to Spliff of John again for what its worth :)

I batch of fresh super soil cost me 140$ and fills 18 pots its well worth the cost.
not knocking you no till guys I think that method is amazing.
We produce 2 pounds per 1 k Consistently with fresh Supersoil and the shops that carry my flowers depend on me to suppy them with Dank buds.
 

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Tyleb173rd

Tyleb173rd

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I've been contemplating reusing my soil but I do t want to fuck up a good thing. The latest recipe from Sub has my ladies loving life....
 
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