Trump Nailed it!!!

Flaming Pie

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Yes, I'm incredibly ignorant. Which makes you what? super-de-duper ignorant?

Among developed nations, Americans’ tax bills are below average
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/11/among-developed-nations-americans-tax-bills-are-below-average/

We calculated this for four different family types: a single employed person with no children; two married couples with two children, one with both parents working and the other with one worker; and a single working parent. In all cases, the U.S. was below the 39-nation average – in some cases, well below.
Our corporate tax rate is among the highest in the world.

That is why companies are leaving. The past 30 years other countries have been dropping their rates and we have not.
 

Fogdog

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Our corporate tax rate is among the highest in the world.

That is why companies are leaving. The past 30 years other countries have been dropping their rates and we have not.
And so, you'd cut corporate taxes. I suppose then raise taxes on individuals? Maybe the 1% who would benefit from those tax cuts?

What about cutting subsidies instead? We raise about $320 B revenue from corporations and send back about $92 B in subsidies. So, OK, let's cut $92B in corporate taxes and cut all subsidies. Sound fair to you?
 

Flaming Pie

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And so, you'd cut corporate taxes. I suppose then raise taxes on individuals? Maybe the 1% who would benefit from those tax cuts?

What about cutting subsidies instead? We raise about $320 B revenue from corporations and send back about $92 B in subsidies. So, OK, let's cut $92B in corporate taxes and cut all subsidies. Sound fair to you?
Dont need to raise any tax. The increase in employees will provide enough revenue.

Our payroll tax and individual tax comprise 85 percent of our federal budget AFTER everyone gets their tax refund.
 

tangerinegreen555

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There is nothing to stop a business from choosing to do business elsewhere in a free society.

That is not greed, that is being smart with the options available to you.
Do you ever look at the made in _______ tag on your clothes and contemplate the life of the Asian factory worker? Couple dollars an hour, riding a bycicle to work for 12 hrs. through a factory smoke filled town?

So you can save $2 and the CEO can get $2?

You have a strange outlook on 'greed'
 

Flaming Pie

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Do you ever look at the made in _______ tag on your clothes and contemplate the life of the Asian factory worker? Couple dollars an hour, riding a bycicle to work for 12 hrs. through a factory smoke filled town?

So you can save $2 and the CEO can get $2?

You have a strange outlook on 'greed'
You can thank clinton, nafta, and the world trade organization for that.
 

Fogdog

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Dont need to raise any tax. The increase in employees will provide enough revenue.

Our payroll tax and individual tax comprise 85 percent of our federal budget AFTER everyone gets their tax refund.
Suuper de duper, just like I said.

The old cut taxes and everbody wins. Nice theory but has been tried and disproven. What you are suggesting is unfunded tax cuts. Its why the debt ballooned under the great cut taxes and increase spending presidents, Reagan and Bush 2. Did you know that the deficit shrinks whenever a fiscally astute prez like Obama is elected?
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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Suuper de duper, just like I said.

The old cut taxes and everbody wins. Nice theory but has been tried and disproven. What you are suggesting is unfunded tax cuts. Its why the debt ballooned under the great cut taxes and increase spending presidents, Reagan and Bush 2. Did you know that the deficit shrinks whenever a fiscally astute prez like Obama is elected?
Deficit spending isn't debt, which Obama has increased more than any other president in history combined. Bank bailouts, those sure helped right?
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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Also you have no idea why debt balloons, it isn't as simple as "tax cuts", you need to point your finger at central banking policy for that one. Deficit spending doesn't even make sense to talk about when you're servicing 19 trillion dollars of public debt. None of that is even what matters on the ground.

Private debt in the US alone is 31 trillion dollars, but no one will talk about that. The US has the highest private debt burden of any industrialized country. The reason our economy has stagnated isn't falling wages or decreased buying power of the dollar, it's the debt burden growing faster than the economy can generate revenue to service the debts. Obama bailed out creditors, just so they could push interest rates to zero and drain every last drop of blood from savers. There has never been a more fiscally irresponsible president than Obama. Banks have never been more insolvent with more collateral. This next collapse is going to be rapture, as soon a Deutsche Banke hits the Lehman Moment, this farce of a stock market is going with it.
 

captainmorgan

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And isn't being hated by the Koch brothers reason enough to vote for Trump over Hillary?
My take is that the Koch's don't see him as a real republican or that he's a complete loon,my guess is both. Either way the only thing the Koch's are interested in is money and they obviously think Trump will be bad for their business and they never seem to fund Democrats. Just keep believing that Trump is the savior but this loon is only interested himself and definitely not the working man.
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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So he's not on the take from massive multinational industrial interests, and you think that's a bad thing? You'd much rather have a candidate that prison industrial could bribe. You aren't thinking sir. Stop believing the spin, the DNC email leak is pretty much all I'll point to. Oh, here's this as well.

 

captainmorgan

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I think by definition most politicians are scum and only out for them selves and don't give a shit about working people or the poor and disabled. But this guy is a dangerous sociopath and playing on the fears of fools like you.
 

bearkat42

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My take is that the Koch's don't see him as a real republican or that he's a complete loon,my guess is both. Either way the only thing the Koch's are interested in is money and they obviously think Trump will be bad for their business and they never seem to fund Democrats. Just keep believing that Trump is the savior but this loon is only interested himself and definitely not the working man.
I read something yesterday that said that the reason trump picked pence was to appease the Koch brothers.
 

Uberknot

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Oh yeah he nailed that fact he is a fear monger and has nothing to really back up anything he says.

It's like the right wing nut jobs on steroids.......He just takes anything said and gets diarrhea of the mouth.
 

captainmorgan

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Pence,there's another nut job that would like to bring the christian version of sharia law to our country. Did you hear about the woman in his state that was given twenty years in prison for self aborting her pregnancy. And how about Putin helping Trump get elected,looking like he's behind the DNC email hack.
 
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